Please recommend a private college counselor

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Anonymous wrote:Try joining the Facebook group Application Nation by Sara Harberson. There is a monthly fee — around $100 I think. She tackles how to approach everything. There are also paid add-ons which we did not take advantage of (essay editing, activities re-write, LOCI, etc.) but she’s good. Our kid is at Harvard. I think she would have just started her new group in January. BTW, she used to work admissions at Penn.


Also used Sara as part of Application Nation. Kid at a T20. Very satisfied and a fraction of the cost of some of these private advisors. https://www.saraharberson.com/


Used Sara this cycle. So far so good!
Kid in everywhere early other than ED (deferred). We did the essay reviews and application reviews too.




She is nice. But, I would not recommend for T20 admissions. We were advised not to do three particular things in the 2024 cycle. These were things that other parents, students who are at T10 colleges, and a couple of knowledgeable long time posters at CC in these things advised us to include in the application. I pointed this out in detail and asked for advice in light of this feedback. She gave a generic reason why this was only going to hurt the student.

When results came in, two of the AOs explicitly highlighted these things. We had fantastic results by going against her advice, and I am convinced we would not have two HYPSM admits if we followed her advice.

Her generic advice is good but more applicable to large public universities and SLAC's, not T20 privates. It makes sense because she is positioning her soundbite as "America's college counselor," which means she is focused mainly on non-selective colleges. If you are interested in colleges outside of T50, she is not going to be hurting your chances.

She was an AO a long time back and out of sync with current goings on at T20 privates. Simply not good if you are looking for T20 privates.


You cannot generalize like that. Just because your child got success in admissions to their desired colleges, doesn't mean her approach is wrong and only for colleges outside of T20. You do realize that top SLACs are equally competitive as the T20s.
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Anonymous wrote:We used Prep Matters for ACT prep and essays. They were terrific.


I found them below average and expensive.


My kid got a perfect ACT score and was accepted to ivies- so prep matters worked out great for her.
Anonymous
Lots of AN (Sara) Robertson and Echols scholar finalists this year. They had whole posts on the interviews.
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Anonymous wrote:Try joining the Facebook group Application Nation by Sara Harberson. There is a monthly fee — around $100 I think. She tackles how to approach everything. There are also paid add-ons which we did not take advantage of (essay editing, activities re-write, LOCI, etc.) but she’s good. Our kid is at Harvard. I think she would have just started her new group in January. BTW, she used to work admissions at Penn.


Also used Sara as part of Application Nation. Kid at a T20. Very satisfied and a fraction of the cost of some of these private advisors. https://www.saraharberson.com/


Used Sara this cycle. So far so good!
Kid in everywhere early other than ED (deferred). We did the essay reviews and application reviews too.




She is nice. But, I would not recommend for T20 admissions. We were advised not to do three particular things in the 2024 cycle. These were things that other parents, students who are at T10 colleges, and a couple of knowledgeable long time posters at CC in these things advised us to include in the application. I pointed this out in detail and asked for advice in light of this feedback. She gave a generic reason why this was only going to hurt the student.

When results came in, two of the AOs explicitly highlighted these things. We had fantastic results by going against her advice, and I am convinced we would not have two HYPSM admits if we followed her advice.

Her generic advice is good but more applicable to large public universities and SLAC's, not T20 privates. It makes sense because she is positioning her soundbite as "America's college counselor," which means she is focused mainly on non-selective colleges. If you are interested in colleges outside of T50, she is not going to be hurting your chances.

She was an AO a long time back and out of sync with current goings on at T20 privates. Simply not good if you are looking for T20 privates.


Can you say generally what those things were?


Wondering this too.
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Anonymous wrote:Our DD used Richard Montauk. He's by the hour so came in a lot cheaper than the package deals you hear about. She's now in an Ivy. https://www.richardmontauk.com/


Right on cue here's the Richard Montauk booster, maybe even Richard himself? I interviewed him after seeing his name on here. He didn't listen to what DC wanted at all, kept pushing foreign uni's even though I said kid wanted to be a few hours from home. We passed.
Anonymous
Curious about Application Nation. Any more reviews?
Anonymous
AN is a good deal for Sara but bad for families. It is a business model problem. She wants to make a lot of money, and one-on-one counseling limits how much money she can make. She can advise a million students at a low fixed cost with this model. So she came up with an approach that makes her a lot of money.

The main help families need in the admissions process is getting advice for their specific circumstances. The general advice you can get from reading any good book on admissions. It is like asking for relationship or counseling advice in a newspaper vs talking with a therapist. In a newspaper the person is probably famous and gives good general advice, but many of the nuances are lost. In competitive admissions space, this is not the kind of help that would give you any advantage. A counselor who is familiar with the student and the school system, can give targeted, direct help that we found to be vastly more useful. I wish we realized this much earlier in the cycle when we were applying.



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You can get all the help you need or $3000 to $4000 dollars. Essay help, college list, application review, etc. Many local counselors cost no more than $250 to $400 per hour and we found we needed about 9 hours in total. For this we got a counselor who is familiar with FCPS, got to know the student, has a baseline of what similar students fared in the recent admissions cycle, got student on track to timelines, reviewed essays, reviewed the application and helped with many questions along the way. Dont waste money and effort on Application Nation.
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I would say don't totally rely on Application Nation. Many families in the group use her group as a point of advice. But they also use outside counselors to help boost their child's application. AN is very good at teaching the granular process of college admissions, which the 1:1 private counselor won't be able to provide. To understand the system and how arbitrary the admissions process is, AN is very good.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I would say don't totally rely on Application Nation. Many families in the group use her group as a point of advice. But they also use outside counselors to help boost their child's application. AN is very good at teaching the granular process of college admissions, which the 1:1 private counselor won't be able to provide. To understand the system and how arbitrary the admissions process is, AN is very good.


This is what we did. Outside essay help, outside application reviews, outside help with narrative.

It’s a good group to follow though for general learning, knowledge gathering and frankly generating ideas (for my younger kid).

Just pay the minimal monthly fee. And read what others are posting….

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Anonymous wrote:That helped your high performing child get into the college of their dreams. DC is in a public school in APEX program. Will need help with applications, essays, college selection.
Thank you in advance!

Toxic perspective


Oh come on… college of their dreams doesn’t mean HYP to everyone… many dreams are attainable. My kid’s dream was Williams. So then she made a list of schools like it and looked at most by start of senior year. She’s now at a SLAC, not Williams, but I’d say the dream helped her find a perfect fit.

Good luck to your child OP.. whatever the dream is… and realize the dream may change.
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Anonymous wrote:I would say don't totally rely on Application Nation. Many families in the group use her group as a point of advice. But they also use outside counselors to help boost their child's application. AN is very good at teaching the granular process of college admissions, which the 1:1 private counselor won't be able to provide. To understand the system and how arbitrary the admissions process is, AN is very good.


Why wouldn't a 1:1 private counselor be able to provide advice on the "granular process of college admission"?
Anonymous
I would only hire a one on one private counselor who has actually been in the admissions room - recently.

After going through this process now 2 times, their advice is more tailored, different and more relevant.
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We enjoyed working wtih Moxie - we just signed our second kid up. I think first kid ended up where we would have thought but really glad we had Moxie to walk him through the process so that it was really his decision making and not ours when it came to admissions strategy and applying. We are an FCPS family.
They were referred to us by a family with two students in a DC private. They were happy enough the first go-around that they used them again!
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Hired Foundry Admissions on a friends rec. We're a private school family with a student who needed more help sticking to deadlines and I didn't want to have to do it. I was pleasantly surprised at how helpful they were with the entire process and will definitely hire them again for my younger son. Very reasonable and they were there when we had followup questions before committing.
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