'LatinX' backfires on the Democrats

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:No one I know uses this term. It is yet again a right wing pushed tripe that people buy into.


I literally heard it on an NBC News report the other day. It sounded weird.


And here it is in the Boston Globe. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bostonglobe.com/2021/11/22/opinion/how-latinx-communities-are-benefiting-bidens-economic-agenda/%3foutputType=amp

New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/29/style/new-latinx-literature.html

CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/10/entertainment/gallery/hollywood-latinxcellence/index.html

CNBC: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/11/17/harvards-student-newspaper-elects-its-first-latinx-president.html

SFGate: https://www.sfgate.com/news/bayarea/article/Sf-City-s-Latinx-Population-Continues-To-See-15792781.php

Are these all products of the imagination of the right?


OK, so lets change the thread title to "Latinx backfires on the media"

No clue what any of those links have to do with the Democratic Party.


Because the Democrats are the party of progressives. The Latinx is the invention of white elite progressives and it's just another way of mansplanning, so to speak. No one asked Hispanics or Latinos what they thought. It's invented by American academics (elite white liberal American progressives) and is being forced upon the Latino population without any thought or regard for what Latinos actually do or want. The Latinx is all over Democratic materials and documents. It's a perfect example of the short-sightened, narrow minded bubble of progressives that they cannot fathom the concept of gender in languages and languages can be, well, you know, different.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Gee, you wonder why the Trump, of all people, made huge headways with Latino voters?

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000017d-81be-dee4-a5ff-efbe74ec0000

Only 2% of Hispanic voters chose the term 'LatinX' to describe their ethnic background.


Seriously, the Democrats spend so much time flailing around about whatever GOP does that Democrats fail to realize that they are overwhelmingly their own worst enemies the vast majority of the time. Thank god we have white progressives telling Hispanic voters that LatinX is the new appropriate term to use. The Democrats are making very dangerous assumptions that the growing Hispanic vote will be theirs. Judging by the LatinX fiasco, the Democrats are doing a good job drumming up votes for the GOP.


Thanks for the solution that didn't have a problem. I'm a Dem and I don't know anyone who uses the term in my age group. I hear some younger folks say it, but is not that common to hear. What's the big deal. I don't know ANY Latinos who use the term Hispanic unless they live in TX. The use of LatinX had no bearing on Trump.

Give me a break.


Wait, has the term "Hispanic" really fallen out of use?


"Hispanic" is inaccurate for a huge swath of Latin Americans, even the population itself is divided on their self-identity.

What’s the difference between Hispanic and Latino?
The terms “Hispanic” and “Latino” are pan-ethnic terms meant to describe – and summarize – the population of people living in the U.S. of that ethnic background. In practice, the Census Bureau most often uses the term “Hispanic,” while Pew Research Center uses the terms “Hispanic” and “Latino” interchangeably when describing this population.

Some have drawn sharp distinctions between these two terms, saying for example that Hispanics are people from Spain or from Spanish-speaking countries in Latin America (this excludes Brazil, where Portuguese is the official language), while Latinos are people from Latin America regardless of language (this includes Brazil but excludes Spain and Portugal). Despite this debate, the “Hispanic” and “Latino” labels are not universally embraced by the population that has been labeled, even as they are widely used.


https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/09/23/who-is-hispanic/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No one I know uses this term. It is yet again a right wing pushed tripe that people buy into.


I literally heard it on an NBC News report the other day. It sounded weird.


And here it is in the Boston Globe. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bostonglobe.com/2021/11/22/opinion/how-latinx-communities-are-benefiting-bidens-economic-agenda/%3foutputType=amp

New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/29/style/new-latinx-literature.html

CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/10/entertainment/gallery/hollywood-latinxcellence/index.html

CNBC: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/11/17/harvards-student-newspaper-elects-its-first-latinx-president.html

SFGate: https://www.sfgate.com/news/bayarea/article/Sf-City-s-Latinx-Population-Continues-To-See-15792781.php

Are these all products of the imagination of the right?


OK, so lets change the thread title to "Latinx backfires on the media"

No clue what any of those links have to do with the Democratic Party.


Because the Democrats are the party of progressives. The Latinx is the invention of white elite progressives and it's just another way of mansplanning, so to speak. No one asked Hispanics or Latinos what they thought. It's invented by American academics (elite white liberal American progressives) and is being forced upon the Latino population without any thought or regard for what Latinos actually do or want. The Latinx is all over Democratic materials and documents. It's a perfect example of the short-sightened, narrow minded bubble of progressives that they cannot fathom the concept of gender in languages and languages can be, well, you know, different.


This is 100% BS. The term "Latinx" emerged from Latin American ethnic studies programs, vast majority of which are populated by academics of Hispanic and Latin American descent. The first usage of the term came from Spanish-language psychological journals from Puerto Rico.

I mean, do you just make up bullsh#t wholesale?

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2015/12/08/students-adopt-gender-nonspecific-term-latinx-be-more-inclusive

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/338551331_The_Complexity_of_the_x_in_Latinx_How_Latinxao_Students_Relate_to_Identify_With_and_Understand_the_Term_Latinx
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I was at a college presentation and tour the other day with my senior and the world language chair used the term "LatinX." Immediately, you could see the parents (and students) shaking their heads and rolling their eyes. Funny how people who use that term are so oblivious to how dopey they look.


These oppressed people just don't realize that they are oppressed and it's up to these hwite activists to show them the truth.
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Anonymous wrote:So paternalistic and condescending of woke whitey telling the browns what to think. Kind of like when WaPo surveyed native Americans twice and surprisingly found that >90% had no issue with the name Redskins but woke whitey knew better than those ignorant savages. The hypocrisy and stupidity is absolutely amazing.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Redskins_name_opinion_polls

The WaPo poll did at least seem to try and screen out "American Americans" who had a "Cherokee princess" somewhere in there. On the other hand there was no outside way of verifying who was really "100% Native American."

https://www.washingtonian.com/2020/02/21/a-new-study-contradicts-a-washington-post-poll-about-how-native-americans-view-the-redskins-name/

https://news.berkeley.edu/2020/02/04/native-mascots-survey/

A later poll found there was more concern over the name. Of course, the argument could be made that the Berkeley poll was conducted and asked with the intent of making Native Americans mad.
Anonymous
I am so sure that 99% of the people on this forum don't even have a Latino friend they can ask.
Anonymous
So not all latinos use the term? So what. I don't see what the "backfire" is.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So not all latinos use the term? So what. I don't see what the "backfire" is.



Read the rest of the data in the link.

The backfire is the fact that Latinos are less likely to support anyone who uses the term 'LatinX'. That's true for both democrat and GOP voting Latinos. The use of the made up term 'LatinX' is overwhelmingly by liberal Democrats. They're doing a fine job losing votes for their own party.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So not all latinos use the term? So what. I don't see what the "backfire" is.



Read the rest of the data in the link.

The backfire is the fact that Latinos are less likely to support anyone who uses the term 'LatinX'. That's true for both democrat and GOP voting Latinos. The use of the made up term 'LatinX' is overwhelmingly by liberal Democrats. They're doing a fine job losing votes for their own party.


No, they aren't. Most either don't care or are more likely. That's derived directly from data in the link.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So not all latinos use the term? So what. I don't see what the "backfire" is.



Read the rest of the data in the link.

The backfire is the fact that Latinos are less likely to support anyone who uses the term 'LatinX'. That's true for both democrat and GOP voting Latinos. The use of the made up term 'LatinX' is overwhelmingly by liberal Democrats. They're doing a fine job losing votes for their own party.


No, they aren't. Most either don't care or are more likely. That's derived directly from data in the link.



There are more less likely than likelies.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So not all latinos use the term? So what. I don't see what the "backfire" is.



Read the rest of the data in the link.

The backfire is the fact that Latinos are less likely to support anyone who uses the term 'LatinX'. That's true for both democrat and GOP voting Latinos. The use of the made up term 'LatinX' is overwhelmingly by liberal Democrats. They're doing a fine job losing votes for their own party.


No, they aren't. Most either don't care or are more likely. That's derived directly from data in the link.


And we don't know if the term influences their likelihood, or if their feelings about the term are a characteristic of their existing disposition to vote a certain way.

There are more less likely than likelies.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So not all latinos use the term? So what. I don't see what the "backfire" is.



Read the rest of the data in the link.

The backfire is the fact that Latinos are less likely to support anyone who uses the term 'LatinX'. That's true for both democrat and GOP voting Latinos. The use of the made up term 'LatinX' is overwhelmingly by liberal Democrats. They're doing a fine job losing votes for their own party.


No, they aren't. Most either don't care or are more likely. That's derived directly from data in the link.


There are more less likely than likelies.


And we don't know if the term influences their likelihood, or if their feelings about the term are a characteristic of their existing disposition to vote a certain way.
Anonymous
I'm a liberal and I agree that LatinX is a silly word (even though not a single person I know uses it, including my Spanish-speaking friends from all over the world). But it does strike me that while one party is thinking of ways to make everyone feel welcome under its big tent, the other is actively trying to derail our democracy. Which is worse? I'll let you decide.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was at a college presentation and tour the other day with my senior and the world language chair used the term "LatinX." Immediately, you could see the parents (and students) shaking their heads and rolling their eyes. Funny how people who use that term are so oblivious to how dopey they look.


I could see the parents, but I don't believe you when you talk about the students. It's common enough among young people that students would not bat an eye.


Sure maybe in the pottery department at Emily Dickinson College, Latinx would be used, but not in the.math department at Carnegie Mellon


Watch out for the kiln, Fawn! I’ve got a baaaaaaddddd feeling about it!
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