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We all know that the issue of mask wearing has been a hot topic these years, with Democrats being pro-mask and Republicans being anti-mask.
It would be interesting however to see how the choice of (not) wearing a mask can potentially reveal an individual's political ideology.

For example, during the pandemic, with most people wearing masks, if you saw someone not wearing a mask (esp. in indoor and/or crowded place) you could infer that he or she is a Republican (of course with some confidence X).
Similarly, now the pandemic is over and masks have mostly gone away, if you see someone wearing a mask, you can infer that he or she is a Democrat (again with some confidence Y).

What do you think? Would be interested to see if there are any studies about this.
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febegaj wrote:
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Your basic premise is flawed in saying the students are equal level performers. If they are performing equally with the students at the weaker school, then they are most likely not getting in.
Let's say there are 400 8th graders. Then both A & B are guaranteed six spots. However, after those 6, the remaining students would be competing in the open pool, which is what's left after every school get's their 1.5%.
School C would not have any guaranteed six spots and everyone would compete in the open pool. However, if C1 through C6 are as good as B6, then they will all be accepted, so they are not at a disadvantage compared to B(Longfellow). If the students are not that good, then they are in the open pool, same as B7-50, and again not a disadvantage.


I don't think it is flawed. I'm not saying the student in school A performs equally with the rest of the students in school A. E.g. you can imagine the exact same student, "cloned" across those 3 schools, and comparing the chances for each "cloned" student in each school.

Anonymous wrote:The students at C are not disadvantaged compared to B, but both B & C are disadvantaged compared to A.


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Let's say there are 400 8th graders. Then both A & B are guaranteed six spots. However, after those 6, the remaining students would be competing in the open pool, which is what's left after every school get's their 1.5%.
School C would not have any guaranteed six spots and everyone would compete in the open pool. However, if C1 through C6 are as good as B6, then they will all be accepted, so they are not at a disadvantage compared to B(Longfellow). If the students are not that good, then they are in the open pool, same as B7-50, and again not a disadvantage.


So for concrete numbers, and to show if I understand correctly: suppose open pool is 50 spots. Then A offers 6 spots plus 50 from open pool, B has 6 spots plus 50 from open pool, and C has 50 from open pool.

Student in school A (which is in the same academic level as that in B and in C), has a chance to get one of the 6 spots by competing against 100 academically weaker students, therefore at an advantage.
Student in school B has the same numbers but competes against 100 stronger students, making claiming one of the 6 spots more difficult.
Student in school C has no pre-allocated spots at all, therefore can only compete against the open pool from all schools, so student C is the most disadvantaged student of all 3. So I guess what PP 06/23/2022 11:29 said is correct?


"Student in school B has the same numbers but competes against 100 stronger students, making claiming one of the 6 spots more difficult."
If the student in school B does not get one of these 6 spots, than he has not gotten an advantage over an equal(or any) student in school C.
If the student in school B gets one of these 6 spots, then the equal student in school C will get an at large spot.
There is no disadvantage to a private school vs a top public school.




So far I understand the consensus is that B>C. I don't understand what you mean with that sentence. If e.g. school B has 10 applicants, then 6 of them get the pre-allocated spots and the rest 4 can still compete against all students (including C) in the open pool. School C does not have this, so I don't see why B == C.
Anonymous wrote:Your private school kid has very low odds, OP. Last year there were fewer than 10 kids accepted from private schools. I’m not sure of this year’s number.


Is there a source for that?
Anonymous wrote:
Your basic premise is flawed in saying the students are equal level performers. If they are performing equally with the students at the weaker school, then they are most likely not getting in.
Let's say there are 400 8th graders. Then both A & B are guaranteed six spots. However, after those 6, the remaining students would be competing in the open pool, which is what's left after every school get's their 1.5%.
School C would not have any guaranteed six spots and everyone would compete in the open pool. However, if C1 through C6 are as good as B6, then they will all be accepted, so they are not at a disadvantage compared to B(Longfellow). If the students are not that good, then they are in the open pool, same as B7-50, and again not a disadvantage.


I don't think it is flawed. I'm not saying the student in school A performs equally with the rest of the students in school A. E.g. you can imagine the exact same student, "cloned" across those 3 schools, and comparing the chances for each "cloned" student in each school.

Anonymous wrote:The students at C are not disadvantaged compared to B, but both B & C are disadvantaged compared to A.


Anonymous wrote:
Let's say there are 400 8th graders. Then both A & B are guaranteed six spots. However, after those 6, the remaining students would be competing in the open pool, which is what's left after every school get's their 1.5%.
School C would not have any guaranteed six spots and everyone would compete in the open pool. However, if C1 through C6 are as good as B6, then they will all be accepted, so they are not at a disadvantage compared to B(Longfellow). If the students are not that good, then they are in the open pool, same as B7-50, and again not a disadvantage.


So for concrete numbers, and to show if I understand correctly: suppose open pool is 50 spots. Then A offers 6 spots plus 50 from open pool, B has 6 spots plus 50 from open pool, and C has 50 from open pool.

Student in school A (which is in the same academic level as that in B and in C), has a chance to get one of the 6 spots by competing against 100 academically weaker students, therefore at an advantage.
Student in school B has the same numbers but competes against 100 stronger students, making claiming one of the 6 spots more difficult.
Student in school C has no pre-allocated spots at all, therefore can only compete against the open pool from all schools, so student C is the most disadvantaged student of all 3. So I guess what PP 06/23/2022 11:29 said is correct?
I see contradicting answers and I am still confused.
So suppose we have 3 middle schools, each with 100 students.
School A is FCPS "lower-performing", school B is FCPS "high-performing" and school C is private.
We have 3 students x,y,z from schools A,B and C respectively. All 3 students have the same academic level.
What are (roughly) the TJ admission odds for each student?
I am confused now. So this means that a kid from a private middle school has less chances than a kid from *any* FCPS middle school (including the high-performing ones?)

Is there a link that shows exactly how the allocation system works?
So this means that a kid from a private school has the same chance compared with a kid e.g. from Longfellow?
Suppose a kid goes to FCPS for elementary school and to a private school for middle-school. Is that kid still eligible to apply for TJ? And if yes, does a kid from a private school have a disadvantage compared to kid from FCPS?
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febegaj wrote:Thank you all for your replies. We're Christian so we can consider parochial schools also. I will move both of my kids so they can be together. We would prefer tuition under $30k each. What we want basically is the school to be strong academically.

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Pinnacle Academy is at the edge of our radius and has resonable tuition. Is it strong academically?


Isn't Pinnacle Academy a Gulen school? Formerly an ally of Erdogan, who made his name with test prep schools in Turkey and now has a charter/private school network in the US. The education is probably OK, but the Gulen network gives me hives.

Is Dominion Christian in your range? K-6 in Oakton, 7-12 in Reston. We pulled a child from AAP to there, probably for many of your reasons, and are *really* happy with it.

Academy for Christian Education, in Reston, has a good rep. I believe they target high performing students.

Oak Hill Christian is another nearby school in the classical vein.



Probably those are a bit too far, but I will take a look, thanks
Kids are girls, but we don't work in DC and we don't want to go through the traffic nightmare to go there and come back twice per day.
Max radius for us is 15min drive
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I'm not sure the level of religion at Trinity, but I know multiple students from different families who have left due to bullying and cliquish behavior.


We just went through the application process at Trinity (not admitted), and Trinity is indeed very religious. The website states that at least one parent must be Christian, but during the parent interview they asked both of us to speak about our faith. They require a pastor recommendation as part of the application process. On their website, they state that they are pro-life and support a Biblical view of marriage and sexuality. If that works for your family (or is not a deal breaker), it seems like a terrific school with dedicated teachers. We were very impressed, despite having some misgivings about these views.

I had not heard about students leaving because of bullying and cliquish behavior. That is concerning.


We are a family with conservative values, so we don't mind with those if that's all what "super religious" is about.
We just don't want the whole school day to be around religious stuff, we want a school that focuses primarily on academics.
Taking Trinity as an example, I see they have posted scores that compare with state average and FCPS
https://www.tcsfairfax.org/academics/upper-school-7-12/how-trinity-scores
However I would like to see an independent source of such data, comparing all schools across the region.
Is there such a source to see how each school does academically?
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Holy Spirit is popular because it's cheap, there are lots of families that want Catholic education, and as you are finding there aren't many private school options in the Burke area because public schools are generally very good.


So why I see more private schools around McLean? I thought the public schools there were better thank Burke area because of higher HHI?
Thank you all for your replies. We're Christian so we can consider parochial schools also. I will move both of my kids so they can be together. We would prefer tuition under $30k each. What we want basically is the school to be strong academically.

Flint Hill looks one viable option for us, although tuition is a bit on the higher end.

Potomac, Basis, Paul VI, O’Connell, Langley, Congressional and Ireton seem too far away for us.

Pinnacle Academy is at the edge of our radius and has resonable tuition. Is it strong academically?

Nysmith tuition is too high.

Holy Spirit: why is it popular? Tuition is very low. Is it good academically?

Nativity: can't find much information about the school online..

St Leo’s: might consider it

Trinity at Braddock and Immanuel: Are they indeed super religious? (We don't want that) Otherwise they look good options

Pinecrest: It seems to be only K-6.
Have 3rd and 5th grade DDs currently at FCPS (AAP). We were ok with FCPS ES but we are planning for a private school for 2023-2024 school year. We live near GMU.
We have no idea about private schools here. Read the DCUM FAQ but still confused.
Think it is a good time to start looking at a few private schools in our area and see what they offer.
Any suggestions?
Thank you
I asked Burke Athletic Club and they play on Saturday mornings too.
BRYC as well.

Why everyone plays Saturday mornings???
No team Saturday afternoons or Sundays?
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