I definitely understand people's strong opinions on the issue, but....like religion - and specifically Christianity, many people who believe in it are convinced that if you DONT follow what they believe is right, you're doing it wrong. And this is, to me, a stupid issue where people are always going to scold you for believing in the other sise.

I also believe much or the arguments against it largely stem for a dislike of the fact that it's a non-Christian religious practice. I don't think people like that it's something Jews (and Muslims, though most people don't know they do it too) do. I've lived in DC for a long time and work in an "educated" environment where people have no idea what a Jew is.

If you don't want to do this to your child, don't. Don't assume that people who do aren't aware of science or medicine, or are guided purely by aesthetics. Nor do I think it's appropriate for someone to think another is a bad parent because they have made their own (educated) decision to do something. I don't think this one decision - like many other decisions made by parents - are really any business of anyone else, especially if they don't impact your family. Not vaccinating your child when it goes to the same day care as mine? My business. Your son having foreskin? What do I care? I truly don't get the obsession with this, or with the decision other people make for their own families. Especially when 99% of people here (maybe even 100%!) are very educated and well versed in parenting issues.

This is DC - everyone's an expert on everything.

I definitely DONT work there - those girls are all so svelt and perfect! I will NOT be attending this week OR next week (next week, we go home to "share our news" with family besides my mom). I'm doing prenatal yoga on saturday and I don't want to overdo it during the weekend, so I'm picking yoga this week. But I will definitely attend - probably on the 28th if all is well.
Report back as to how it is - I just like the space, always found it relaxing even though it kicks your butt.

re: the scan...I'm not sure they'll give me another one. I have to figure it out, they were vague. It was weird.

Welcome, afield!! Congrats on the twinsies!

14:38: which OB do you use?
I'm a chubby mom-to-be and at my appointment next week (12 week) my doc already wants me to do a GD test....sigh....I'm not changing docs now, it'll be too stressful...but if there's a next time, it'd be nice to know!

...posting anti-practice web sites to prove your point doesn't prove your point. It's like quoting the CATO institute when you're trying to be non-paritsan on economics.
Find a reputable organization (AMA, ACOG, whatever) and quote that. Just like in college/grad school if you ever went and/or had to cite statistics to back up your argument(s).

I have a hard time believing when these people see a woman yell at her child on the metro to "shut the F up" that they give that woman their opinions. Same with people who text and drive with kids in the back seat. or completely igore their children while they have their faces deep in their iPhones. or anything else that's truly bad for a child's health and wellbeing. I'm just sure they do the same thing. Because I see it happen all the time and I'm still waiting for one of these "IT'S CHILD ABUSE!!!" people to stand up and say something.

It's the security of being anonymous on here that lets women so easily criticize other people's parenting regardless of the issue. It's pretty sad - feel passionately, fine. But get off your high horses and worry about things that really matter like poor water quality around the world, maternal death, etc. Sheesh.

Thanks for posting, OP - I'm so thankful that science and technology has helped fill a void in so many people's hearts. It's pretty amazing.

I'm sure people silently judge many, many parents...especially whose to inspect the genitals of children that aren't theirs. It's not at all creepy for you to care THAT much about them

Anonymous wrote:Additionally, making daddy and son match is truly only about the ego of the father and placating his emotional needs. Children, teenagers, young adults and adults want to pretty much NEVER think about their parents genitals, right? I mean really, how much do we all daydream about our parents genitals?

While I personally don't give two craps about what people chose to do with this decision, I will say that my DH was NOT circumsized and his father was...and perhaps it's because his father is a complete a-hole, but he was never taught proper care (he had a hard time being potty trained because....foreskin). I think if you did not grow up with certain things, I could SEE how it could be difficult to 'deal' with the other.

And then my DH was circumsized at age 18 and wished it had been done when he was an infant. And unless you've had both foreskin and no foreskin, I don't really think you can comment on the issue. I trust my DH's view, having gone through it (if we have a boy, but we're hoping for a girl!). People really care far too much here about other people's kids penises.

If you're up for it, consider making your own. Try http://www.macheesmo.com/2011/01/four-homemade-cleaners/ as a good starting point

I am normally not an, "it's get better" person, but it really does - I just found what I liked and ate it. And that thing was bagels. With or without cream cheese. Carbs and fat - things I've been avoiding for so, so long! Definitely find what you like and go with it. This part will be over before you know it!

Why is this discussion going on in 3 or 4 different threads? the end result is always the same - some people choose to do it, others don't. It's really none of anyone's business, for the most part. I'm sure the anti-people are as much about all the other issues facing OTHER people's families.

I just don't understand why this happens here time and time again with the same lack-of-respectful resolution.

If we have a boy, we'll do what 19:39 did, maybe a baby naming type ceremony later.

My DH was born in Israel and not circumcised and resented it, had it done at 18 (NOT fun) and doesn't want to put a kid through that. Especially since we plan on raising our kid more religious than we were brought up (not super ortho, but more than we were brought up with)

Good luck in your decision, OP

oh, duh...just re-read...whew I was gonna say! damn multitasking.

OP, hoping for the best outcome for you and stong numbers ahead!

Anonymous wrote: I did wonder about a vansihing twin. We had two embryos transferred, so perhaps one is out of the running. My next beta is Friday. Cannot come soon enough.

NEXT friday??? you have to wait over a week?

There are lots of non-doubling in 36 hour stories, many are vanishing twin. I would ask in the IVF forum, not the expectant mom one where many women don't even know there betas.

hopefully someone with a better disposition can make the OP feel comforted, not worst-case-is-happening.