ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Anonymous wrote:Clubs don’t want to lose money or players. Be ready for the “we are going to keep rosters together” will just have huge rosters of 10s with 11s. After about 6 months families will start leaving for GA/ECNL/MLSN/ECRL whatever league favors their kids ability with realistic playing time.

But clubs won’t tell you that you will have to figure it out.


I think most clubs will do it. Minimal cut, but let all capable Q3/Q4 join. The roster will be 25 or more. Bench BY parents need to be realistic.


The truth if you're being honest ... Bench parents need to be realistic


Right? The whole “Bench BY parents” is so stupid and petty. It’s based from jealousy and ignorance mixed with a toxic hope that an age cutoff will make their own child’s outcome better.

👏 the only thing that makes a kid’s outcome better is for that kid to want and work for a better outcome 👏


No, the reality is as soon as SY starts, the team will be 70% Q3/Q4, just like the current 70% Q1/Q2. On the top team, everybody works hard, so your reasoning is pure stupid. So statistically speaking, if ECNL team does not increase their roster from 18 to 25, those 7 bench Q1/Q2 will be cut.


I think the point being made isn't about lack of hard work by anyone. It'll be more about who wants it more and plays better, continues to develop, not what birth month they are, especially now they've been playing for years at a high level.


I don’t think you have any idea what separates the very best, from the next tier. The vast vast vast majority of ECNL players are nowhere near the top. The vast vast vast majority are not in fact working hard. They may think they are. Their parents might think they are too. But they aren’t.


If that’s true, maybe GA is the better league
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Anonymous wrote:Clubs don’t want to lose money or players. Be ready for the “we are going to keep rosters together” will just have huge rosters of 10s with 11s. After about 6 months families will start leaving for GA/ECNL/MLSN/ECRL whatever league favors their kids ability with realistic playing time.

But clubs won’t tell you that you will have to figure it out.


I think most clubs will do it. Minimal cut, but let all capable Q3/Q4 join. The roster will be 25 or more. Bench BY parents need to be realistic.


The truth if you're being honest ... Bench parents need to be realistic


Right? The whole “Bench BY parents” is so stupid and petty. It’s based from jealousy and ignorance mixed with a toxic hope that an age cutoff will make their own child’s outcome better.

👏 the only thing that makes a kid’s outcome better is for that kid to want and work for a better outcome 👏


No, the reality is as soon as SY starts, the team will be 70% Q3/Q4, just like the current 70% Q1/Q2. On the top team, everybody works hard, so your reasoning is pure stupid. So statistically speaking, if ECNL team does not increase their roster from 18 to 25, those 7 bench Q1/Q2 will be cut.


I think the point being made isn't about lack of hard work by anyone. It'll be more about who wants it more and plays better, continues to develop, not what birth month they are, especially now they've been playing for years at a high level.


I don’t think you have any idea what separates the very best, from the next tier. The vast vast vast majority of ECNL players are nowhere near the top. The vast vast vast majority are not in fact working hard. They may think they are. Their parents might think they are too. But they aren’t.


If that’s true, maybe GA is the better league


That’s a pretty large logical leap from what I said.
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Anonymous wrote:Clubs don’t want to lose money or players. Be ready for the “we are going to keep rosters together” will just have huge rosters of 10s with 11s. After about 6 months families will start leaving for GA/ECNL/MLSN/ECRL whatever league favors their kids ability with realistic playing time.

But clubs won’t tell you that you will have to figure it out.


I think most clubs will do it. Minimal cut, but let all capable Q3/Q4 join. The roster will be 25 or more. Bench BY parents need to be realistic.


The truth if you're being honest ... Bench parents need to be realistic


Right? The whole “Bench BY parents” is so stupid and petty. It’s based from jealousy and ignorance mixed with a toxic hope that an age cutoff will make their own child’s outcome better.

👏 the only thing that makes a kid’s outcome better is for that kid to want and work for a better outcome 👏


No, the reality is as soon as SY starts, the team will be 70% Q3/Q4, just like the current 70% Q1/Q2. On the top team, everybody works hard, so your reasoning is pure stupid. So statistically speaking, if ECNL team does not increase their roster from 18 to 25, those 7 bench Q1/Q2 will be cut.


I think the point being made isn't about lack of hard work by anyone. It'll be more about who wants it more and plays better, continues to develop, not what birth month they are, especially now they've been playing for years at a high level.


I don’t think you have any idea what separates the very best, from the next tier. The vast vast vast majority of ECNL players are nowhere near the top. The vast vast vast majority are not in fact working hard. They may think they are. Their parents might think they are too. But they aren’t.


If that’s true, maybe GA is the better league


That’s a pretty large logical leap from what I said.


All I know is ECNL touts itself as the very best in youth soccer. If they aren't working hard, then perhaps they are not.
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Anonymous wrote:I want ECNL to release an official announcement on the plan so we can decide whether to stay in GA or move to ECRL if they change next year.


Well it looks ECNL is already losing top clubs and players to GA (BY) in this area. ECNL might be poised to become the leading rec and regional league.


ECNL will fight back. We should see some aggressive transition plans soon, together with some new ECNL clubs from GA.



I’m hearing there are 3 clubs in my local area (within an hour of each other) alone with ECNL offers for the girls if the boys leave MLSN for ECNL as well.


There is a strong chance a socal MLSN club will switch to ECNL for their girl's team. Let's see.

Which club in Socal? There’s 2 top Socal GA clubs (across all age groups) and one of those has 2x GA teams per age group.

This just doesn’t seem very likely. Socal ECNL is one of the top regional leagues. If the didn’t bring over the top GA clubs they’d just get shelled week after week.


I’m willing to bet if any top GA club in so cal or just any club in general got ECNL status they would instantly improve. As if the club is ran well families would want their kids to play there.

A club where I’m from Northern California was a mid tier ECRL club l, 2 years ago some how received ECNL status now they are competing with the top ECNL club in the area.

If you’re a well ran club with good training, coaching, and ethics and get ECNL you will be fine.
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Anonymous wrote:I want ECNL to release an official announcement on the plan so we can decide whether to stay in GA or move to ECRL if they change next year.


Well it looks ECNL is already losing top clubs and players to GA (BY) in this area. ECNL might be poised to become the leading rec and regional league.


ECNL will fight back. We should see some aggressive transition plans soon, together with some new ECNL clubs from GA.



I sure hope this is true, can’t wait to see what the plans maybe. Hopefully it isn’t a let down and all ecln struggle through a water year.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I want ECNL to release an official announcement on the plan so we can decide whether to stay in GA or move to ECRL if they change next year.


Well it looks ECNL is already losing top clubs and players to GA (BY) in this area. ECNL might be poised to become the leading rec and regional league.


ECNL will fight back. We should see some aggressive transition plans soon, together with some new ECNL clubs from GA.



I’m hearing there are 3 clubs in my local area (within an hour of each other) alone with ECNL offers for the girls if the boys leave MLSN for ECNL as well.


There is a strong chance a socal MLSN club will switch to ECNL for their girl's team. Let's see.

Which club in Socal? There’s 2 top Socal GA clubs (across all age groups) and one of those has 2x GA teams per age group.

This just doesn’t seem very likely. Socal ECNL is one of the top regional leagues. If the didn’t bring over the top GA clubs they’d just get shelled week after week.


I’m willing to bet if any top GA club in so cal or just any club in general got ECNL status they would instantly improve. As if the club is ran well families would want their kids to play there.

A club where I’m from Northern California was a mid tier ECRL club l, 2 years ago some how received ECNL status now they are competing with the top ECNL club in the area.

If you’re a well ran club with good training, coaching, and ethics and get ECNL you will be fine.

No , that's not how it works. ECNL is not magic fairy dust. If you want to talk Socal ask Petadores.

Clubs are strong or weak because of the development programs they've implemented from youngers to olders.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I want ECNL to release an official announcement on the plan so we can decide whether to stay in GA or move to ECRL if they change next year.


Well it looks ECNL is already losing top clubs and players to GA (BY) in this area. ECNL might be poised to become the leading rec and regional league.


ECNL will fight back. We should see some aggressive transition plans soon, together with some new ECNL clubs from GA.



I’m hearing there are 3 clubs in my local area (within an hour of each other) alone with ECNL offers for the girls if the boys leave MLSN for ECNL as well.


There is a strong chance a socal MLSN club will switch to ECNL for their girl's team. Let's see.

Which club in Socal? There’s 2 top Socal GA clubs (across all age groups) and one of those has 2x GA teams per age group.

This just doesn’t seem very likely. Socal ECNL is one of the top regional leagues. If the didn’t bring over the top GA clubs they’d just get shelled week after week.


I’m willing to bet if any top GA club in so cal or just any club in general got ECNL status they would instantly improve. As if the club is ran well families would want their kids to play there.

A club where I’m from Northern California was a mid tier ECRL club l, 2 years ago some how received ECNL status now they are competing with the top ECNL club in the area.

If you’re a well ran club with good training, coaching, and ethics and get ECNL you will be fine.

No , that's not how it works. ECNL is not magic fairy dust. If you want to talk Socal ask Petadores.

Clubs are strong or weak because of the development programs they've implemented from youngers to olders.


The best clubs train/develop well BUT perhaps stress recruiting even more from other leagues, especially if there's not a lot of nearby ECNL competition.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I want ECNL to release an official announcement on the plan so we can decide whether to stay in GA or move to ECRL if they change next year.


Well it looks ECNL is already losing top clubs and players to GA (BY) in this area. ECNL might be poised to become the leading rec and regional league.


ECNL will fight back. We should see some aggressive transition plans soon, together with some new ECNL clubs from GA.



I’m hearing there are 3 clubs in my local area (within an hour of each other) alone with ECNL offers for the girls if the boys leave MLSN for ECNL as well.


From whom? 🤣

ECNL is not going to just add garbage to add garbage.


Our club director, I guess what is your definition of garbage they are GA teams that are winning against ECNL teams at tournaments. So if ECNL garbage by that definition?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I want ECNL to release an official announcement on the plan so we can decide whether to stay in GA or move to ECRL if they change next year.


Well it looks ECNL is already losing top clubs and players to GA (BY) in this area. ECNL might be poised to become the leading rec and regional league.


ECNL will fight back. We should see some aggressive transition plans soon, together with some new ECNL clubs from GA.



I’m hearing there are 3 clubs in my local area (within an hour of each other) alone with ECNL offers for the girls if the boys leave MLSN for ECNL as well.


There is a strong chance a socal MLSN club will switch to ECNL for their girl's team. Let's see.

Which club in Socal? There’s 2 top Socal GA clubs (across all age groups) and one of those has 2x GA teams per age group.

This just doesn’t seem very likely. Socal ECNL is one of the top regional leagues. If the didn’t bring over the top GA clubs they’d just get shelled week after week.


I’m willing to bet if any top GA club in so cal or just any club in general got ECNL status they would instantly improve. As if the club is ran well families would want their kids to play there.

A club where I’m from Northern California was a mid tier ECRL club l, 2 years ago some how received ECNL status now they are competing with the top ECNL club in the area.

If you’re a well ran club with good training, coaching, and ethics and get ECNL you will be fine.

No , that's not how it works. ECNL is not magic fairy dust. If you want to talk Socal ask Petadores.

Clubs are strong or weak because of the development programs they've implemented from youngers to olders.


So if a club lost ECNL would they still continue to be dominant or would ost families leave? Some ECNL clubs are extremely well ran and do a great job. Some are coasting because they are apart of ECNL so continue to attract players who want to be recruited.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I want ECNL to release an official announcement on the plan so we can decide whether to stay in GA or move to ECRL if they change next year.


Well it looks ECNL is already losing top clubs and players to GA (BY) in this area. ECNL might be poised to become the leading rec and regional league.


ECNL will fight back. We should see some aggressive transition plans soon, together with some new ECNL clubs from GA.



I’m hearing there are 3 clubs in my local area (within an hour of each other) alone with ECNL offers for the girls if the boys leave MLSN for ECNL as well.


There is a strong chance a socal MLSN club will switch to ECNL for their girl's team. Let's see.

Which club in Socal? There’s 2 top Socal GA clubs (across all age groups) and one of those has 2x GA teams per age group.

This just doesn’t seem very likely. Socal ECNL is one of the top regional leagues. If the didn’t bring over the top GA clubs they’d just get shelled week after week.


I’m willing to bet if any top GA club in so cal or just any club in general got ECNL status they would instantly improve. As if the club is ran well families would want their kids to play there.

A club where I’m from Northern California was a mid tier ECRL club l, 2 years ago some how received ECNL status now they are competing with the top ECNL club in the area.

If you’re a well ran club with good training, coaching, and ethics and get ECNL you will be fine.

No , that's not how it works. ECNL is not magic fairy dust. If you want to talk Socal ask Petadores.

Clubs are strong or weak because of the development programs they've implemented from youngers to olders.


If GA club who has to development everything in house because they do not get the top players in the area so they have to develop what they have and then finds success because they are really a player first focus club and then get ECNL on top of it. That club would only improve. They wouldn’t get worse with ECNL?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I want ECNL to release an official announcement on the plan so we can decide whether to stay in GA or move to ECRL if they change next year.


Well it looks ECNL is already losing top clubs and players to GA (BY) in this area. ECNL might be poised to become the leading rec and regional league.


ECNL will fight back. We should see some aggressive transition plans soon, together with some new ECNL clubs from GA.



I’m hearing there are 3 clubs in my local area (within an hour of each other) alone with ECNL offers for the girls if the boys leave MLSN for ECNL as well.


From whom? 🤣

ECNL is not going to just add garbage to add garbage.


Our club director, I guess what is your definition of garbage they are GA teams that are winning against ECNL teams at tournaments. So if ECNL garbage by that definition?


Meant my club director lol unless you’re also apart of the club which is unknown.
Anonymous
By 3/2, hopefully, ECNL will officially release their plan so everyone is on the same page. I was very much surprised by such a significant change. There are rumors after rumors for many months. Just for the benefit of trap players, I hope ECNL can start some transition plans soon.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:By 3/2, hopefully, ECNL will officially release their plan so everyone is on the same page. I was very much surprised by such a significant change. There are rumors after rumors for many months. Just for the benefit of trap players, I hope ECNL can start some transition plans soon.


This is losing steam fast already and is not a major priority. Top ECNL clubs, teams and players are bailing in this area and likely will be the same in other areas. In the next year the youth soccer landscape is going to be very different and ECNL will have to readjust in different ways if they want to stay relevant.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I want ECNL to release an official announcement on the plan so we can decide whether to stay in GA or move to ECRL if they change next year.


Well it looks ECNL is already losing top clubs and players to GA (BY) in this area. ECNL might be poised to become the leading rec and regional league.


ECNL will fight back. We should see some aggressive transition plans soon, together with some new ECNL clubs from GA.



I’m hearing there are 3 clubs in my local area (within an hour of each other) alone with ECNL offers for the girls if the boys leave MLSN for ECNL as well.


There is a strong chance a socal MLSN club will switch to ECNL for their girl's team. Let's see.

Which club in Socal? There’s 2 top Socal GA clubs (across all age groups) and one of those has 2x GA teams per age group.

This just doesn’t seem very likely. Socal ECNL is one of the top regional leagues. If the didn’t bring over the top GA clubs they’d just get shelled week after week.


I’m willing to bet if any top GA club in so cal or just any club in general got ECNL status they would instantly improve. As if the club is ran well families would want their kids to play there.

A club where I’m from Northern California was a mid tier ECRL club l, 2 years ago some how received ECNL status now they are competing with the top ECNL club in the area.

If you’re a well ran club with good training, coaching, and ethics and get ECNL you will be fine.

No , that's not how it works. ECNL is not magic fairy dust. If you want to talk Socal ask Petadores.

Clubs are strong or weak because of the development programs they've implemented from youngers to olders.


If Petadores lost ECNL status they would fall to the abyss. The fact they have ECNL is what keeps them competitive.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:By 3/2, hopefully, ECNL will officially release their plan so everyone is on the same page. I was very much surprised by such a significant change. There are rumors after rumors for many months. Just for the benefit of trap players, I hope ECNL can start some transition plans soon.


This is losing steam fast already and is not a major priority. Top ECNL clubs, teams and players are bailing in this area and likely will be the same in other areas. In the next year the youth soccer landscape is going to be very different and ECNL will have to readjust in different ways if they want to stay relevant.


Name a top 25 nationally ranked girls club leaving for GA? It’s bad business for any girls club to leave ECNL. Unless the GA can convince a majority of the top ECNL clubs to join.
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