Official 1st Presidential Debate Thread

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Anonymous wrote:I am really really trying to be open-minded, but I feel like I was watching a different debate than some of you. I saw a poised, prepared, experienced candidate who gave specific policy platforms, used humor appropriately and seriousness besides, who spoke eloquently about important issues, who held her poise when she was provoked, who paid attention to the debate rules but pushed only slightly when she needed to. She didn't come across to me as arrogant or untrustworthy in the least. She looked like exactly what I want in a President.

Versus, a person who gave rambling, incoherent statements that were frequently conflicting and hypocritical even in the same sentence, wo was clearly unprepared and nervous (the amount of movement and water drinking and sniffling was a dead giveaway), who was rude to everyone, who repeatedly lied about things that were easy to confirm, who made racist comments and gave no specific policy ideas and who admitted he pays no federal taxes and has repeatedly filed for bankruptcy.

the main one that gets me is people who think she was arrogant last night. I think she could have been arrogant given who she was debating against, but I didn't read arrogance even a little.

Very eloquently put. Thanks for summing up my views exactly. #imwithher

That's also what I saw. To be honest, the most disappointing thing about this is how little respect he has for the office, for the voters, frankly for himself. He got up there on the stage and had no idea what first use was. Defended unconstitutional policies. Lied about things that are common knowledge and that, because of the internet, are RIGHT THERE for all to see. It was very hard to watch. I thought she held her composure well considering that it really wasn't a "debate" in the conventional sense of the term.

+1 to all of this. I wasn't going to vote this year. But after only 1/2 hour of that debacle, I was surprised by how much respect I gained for Hillary. I've never liked her, but I was impressed with how she handled herself. Furthermore, I was surprised by how horrible Trump is. (Somehow I managed to never hear him live before last night). He had nothing to say other than hyperbole and name calling. It was embarrassing and disrespectful to the country - regardless of what side you're on. It convinced me I really do need to vote, because we cannot have that as president.

+1 I'm in.

[Anonymous]

Interesting comments from a friend. I'm not sure of its accuracy.

took a quick look at all the questions asked by Lester Holt from transcript of the debate.  While he interposed a few follow up questions the initial questions he asked are revealing. These are just summaries.  The Washington Post has the transcript online if you want to look for yourself. 

TO BOTH: 
Why are you a better choice?

Taxes.  To Clinton: defend your position to increase taxes on the wealthy. To Trump: Defend your position to reduce taxes on the wealthy.

 Race.    How do you solve racial divide. To Trump: You are for stop and frisk, it has been ruled  to be racial profiling. To Clinton: Do you believe police are inherently biased against blacks?

Cyber.  Who is behind cyber attacks and how do you stop it?

Terrorism.  How do you prevent homegrown terrorist attacks by American citizens?

Will you support the outcome of the election?


SPECIFICALLY TO TRUMP 

How are you going to bring back industries that left the country?  

Don't Americans have a right to see your tax returns?

For 5 years you perpetuated a false claim that Obama wasn't a natural born American. What does that say to Americans about racial healing?

You initially supported war with Iraq. Why did you change your mind?

Clinton is first woman candidate. What did you mean when you said she didn't have the stamina?

SPECIFIC TO CLINTON:  No questions that I saw. I could have missed something. Maybe someone will enlighten me.






 

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe Holt was just getting back at Donald for the lie Donnie told about Holt. Oh right, he didn't lie, he just didn't know the facts. lol

Trump is proven right again. Lester Holt after all is a democrat. He outshines Candy Crowley.

He's actually a registered Republican.

Colin Powell claims to be a republican too but voted for Obama twice. So you really think a republican would ask zero question about Hillary's emails, lies, pay-to-play corruption, Benghazi and foreign policy disaster? A republican would devote the entire second half on gotcha questions of birther, looks, tax returns etc exclusively on Trump? A republican would go Candy Crowley on Trump twice?

Holt is not a republican.

Many registered Republicans, even in Congress are not backing Trump. Lester Holt is a republican who is likely going to vote with his head. I know I am. I cannot in good conscience vote for D Trump.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe Holt was just getting back at Donald for the lie Donnie told about Holt. Oh right, he didn't lie, he just didn't know the facts. lol

Trump is proven right again. Lester Holt after all is a democrat. He outshines Candy Crowley.

He's actually a registered Republican.

Colin Powell claims to be a republican too but voted for Obama twice. So you really think a republican would ask zero question about Hillary's emails, lies, pay-to-play corruption, Benghazi and foreign policy disaster? A republican would devote the entire second half on gotcha questions of birther, looks, tax returns etc exclusively on Trump? A republican would go Candy Crowley on Trump twice?

Holt is not a republican.

"Gotcha questions" = any hard questions that make our candidate look bad because he stumbles through an answer.

[Anonymous]

Gotcha questions" = any hard questions that make our candidate look bad because he stumbles through an answer.

read the post at 13:14

[Anonymous]

Trump says exactly what comes into his head with no filter.

Refreshing!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe Holt was just getting back at Donald for the lie Donnie told about Holt. Oh right, he didn't lie, he just didn't know the facts. lol

Trump is proven right again. Lester Holt after all is a democrat. He outshines Candy Crowley.

He's actually a registered Republican.

Colin Powell claims to be a republican too but voted for Obama twice. So you really think a republican would ask zero question about Hillary's emails, lies, pay-to-play corruption, Benghazi and foreign policy disaster? A republican would devote the entire second half on gotcha questions of birther, looks, tax returns etc exclusively on Trump? A republican would go Candy Crowley on Trump twice?

Holt is not a republican.

"Gotcha questions" = any hard questions that make our candidate look bad because he stumbles through an answer.

Gotcha questions should be doled out 50/50. They were not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump says exactly what comes into his head with no filter.

Refreshing!

Exactly. Just the comic relief we all needed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting comments from a friend. I'm not sure of its accuracy.

took a quick look at all the questions asked by Lester Holt from transcript of the debate.  While he interposed a few follow up questions the initial questions he asked are revealing. These are just summaries.  The Washington Post has the transcript online if you want to look for yourself. 

TO BOTH: 
Why are you a better choice?

Taxes.  To Clinton: defend your position to increase taxes on the wealthy. To Trump: Defend your position to reduce taxes on the wealthy.

 Race.    How do you solve racial divide. To Trump: You are for stop and frisk, it has been ruled  to be racial profiling. To Clinton: Do you believe police are inherently biased against blacks?

Cyber.  Who is behind cyber attacks and how do you stop it?

Terrorism.  How do you prevent homegrown terrorist attacks by American citizens?

Will you support the outcome of the election?


SPECIFICALLY TO TRUMP 

How are you going to bring back industries that left the country?  

Don't Americans have a right to see your tax returns?

For 5 years you perpetuated a false claim that Obama wasn't a natural born American. What does that say to Americans about racial healing?

You initially supported war with Iraq. Why did you change your mind?

Clinton is first woman candidate. What did you mean when you said she didn't have the stamina?

SPECIFIC TO CLINTON:  No questions that I saw. I could have missed something. Maybe someone will enlighten me.



It was a one-man hit job by Holt. Why not ask Hillary....

....Do you still think 25% of Americans are deplorable? If not, what percent?
....Why do you think blacks will believe you when you considered them super-predators?
....You have accused Trump of hiding something with his taxes, but why won't you release your Wall Street speeches? And what was so necessary to remain hidden that you bleached your unauthorized server?
....and finally, you are speaking about cyber security. Are you the one to address that, given that you placed classified material on a unsecured server and, in fact, were described by the FBI director as being too unsophisticated to even recognize classified material in the first place?



 

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe Holt was just getting back at Donald for the lie Donnie told about Holt. Oh right, he didn't lie, he just didn't know the facts. lol

Trump is proven right again. Lester Holt after all is a democrat. He outshines Candy Crowley.

He's actually a registered Republican.

Colin Powell claims to be a republican too but voted for Obama twice. So you really think a republican would ask zero question about Hillary's emails, lies, pay-to-play corruption, Benghazi and foreign policy disaster? A republican would devote the entire second half on gotcha questions of birther, looks, tax returns etc exclusively on Trump? A republican would go Candy Crowley on Trump twice?

Holt is not a republican.

"Gotcha questions" = any hard questions that make our candidate look bad because he stumbles through an answer.

Gotcha questions should be doled out 50/50. They were not.

Well, Colon Powell did out Bill Clinton's sham marriage.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Alright, Trumpkins, one area where Trump was the clear winner: interrupting. He interrupted Hillary 51 times vs. 17 times she interrupted him. So...congratulations?

Lester Holt interrupted Trump 41 times and Hillary 7 times.

Zero questions were asked about Email, Clinton Foundation, Benghazi, health.

Holt asked Clinton about the emails and the private server.

He didn't ask about either the Trump Foundation or the Clinton Foundation. There were lots of questions he didn't ask -- there was only so much time.

He never asked about the email. Trump brought it up in his response to the tax return question.

Holt was wrong on 1) stop and frisk, until SC overturns it, it is still the law of the land 2) Trump opposition of the Iraq war, which Trump clearly explained he was against it on Neil Cavuto, Sean Hanity and Esquire magazine.

How many times can we bring up the emails and the server? The election is about political issues that effect everyday people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump says exactly what comes into his head with no filter.

Refreshing!

So does my three year old. Let's make her president!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe Holt was just getting back at Donald for the lie Donnie told about Holt. Oh right, he didn't lie, he just didn't know the facts. lol

Trump is proven right again. Lester Holt after all is a democrat. He outshines Candy Crowley.

He's actually a registered Republican.

Colin Powell claims to be a republican too but voted for Obama twice. So you really think a republican would ask zero question about Hillary's emails, lies, pay-to-play corruption, Benghazi and foreign policy disaster? A republican would devote the entire second half on gotcha questions of birther, looks, tax returns etc exclusively on Trump? A republican would go Candy Crowley on Trump twice?

Holt is not a republican.

"Gotcha questions" = any hard questions that make our candidate look bad because he stumbles through an answer.

Gotcha questions should be doled out 50/50. They were not.

Once again, Republicans claim the truth is biased against them. Sad!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Alright, Trumpkins, one area where Trump was the clear winner: interrupting. He interrupted Hillary 51 times vs. 17 times she interrupted him. So...congratulations?

Lester Holt interrupted Trump 41 times and Hillary 7 times.

Zero questions were asked about Email, Clinton Foundation, Benghazi, health.

Holt asked Clinton about the emails and the private server.

He didn't ask about either the Trump Foundation or the Clinton Foundation. There were lots of questions he didn't ask -- there was only so much time.

He never asked about the email. Trump brought it up in his response to the tax return question.

Holt was wrong on 1) stop and frisk, until SC overturns it, it is still the law of the land 2) Trump opposition of the Iraq war, which Trump clearly explained he was against it on Neil Cavuto, Sean Hanity and Esquire magazine.

A legal scholar you are not. That stop and frisk law in NY was indeed ruled unconstitutional in federal court. It doesn't need to go to the SC for that to be true.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Alright, Trumpkins, one area where Trump was the clear winner: interrupting. He interrupted Hillary 51 times vs. 17 times she interrupted him. So...congratulations?

Lester Holt interrupted Trump 41 times and Hillary 7 times.

Zero questions were asked about Email, Clinton Foundation, Benghazi, health.

Holt asked Clinton about the emails and the private server.

He didn't ask about either the Trump Foundation or the Clinton Foundation. There were lots of questions he didn't ask -- there was only so much time.

He never asked about the email. Trump brought it up in his response to the tax return question.

Holt was wrong on 1) stop and frisk, until SC overturns it, it is still the law of the land 2) Trump opposition of the Iraq war, which Trump clearly explained he was against it on Neil Cavuto, Sean Hanity and Esquire magazine.

How many times can we bring up the emails and the server? The election is about political issues that effect everyday people.

Equally, how many times can they bring up Trump's early support/non-support for the Iraq War, his taxes, or the birther issue? These are also non-issues but took up nearly half the debate. I would have gladly rather seen them discuss more relevant issues. Holt apparently thought otherwise.