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Anonymous wrote:Also, how is this thread any different than all the shrieking over Mamdani who is doing a pretty good job in NYC?


Does Mamdani have Nazi tattoos? I mean, the glossing over of the fact that someone who was a Marine, Blackwater contractor, State Department security officer - who talks all the time about how into history he is - had a Nazi tattoo on his chest for 17 years is literally insane to me.

Again, this is the tattoo he had, which is on the collar of every SS officer and also front and center on their troops helmets.



If you are so gullible that you believe it was just a coincidence that he got THIS specific skull and crossbones tattoo, out of all the ones out there to choose from, by complete accident and was ignorant to it being a Nazi symbol for 17 years even though by his own admission he is obsessed with WW2 history you are too dumb to vote.

I wish people would have the courage to just admit they actually don’t care if he got a Nazi tattoo and proudly wore it and they don’t care about white supremacy either, they just want to win by any means necessary in Maine. Just be honest.


MAGA had Bovino and others outright emulating Nazi stuff like from the film above - while in office serving the United States, and Susan Collins was absolutely silent on it. As was every Platner critic in this thread.

Yep!
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Anonymous wrote:This guy is absolutely repugnant. And has no place getting anywhere near the US Senate.

Have some standards people.

And anyone coming out against the victim here because she happens to be a GOP employee?? Gross.

Like what was the supposed "long game" here?? Date him for TWO YEARS, and then, in case he runs for senate 13 years later youve "got em"?? I mean listen to yourselves.


Collins voted to end a right to abortion, which has cause mothers to die in labor in TX, FL, and other red states.

It is what it is.


I’m sorry, I’m no fan of Collins but your post is entirely disingenuous.

She voted for SCOTUS nominees who promised under oath and upon penalty of perjury that they were going to follow settled law.

It was as much a shock to the remaining moderate Republicans when SCOTUS issued the Dobbs ruling. We have all lived in the same universe for decades in which both parties were always assured that SCOTUS would never really repeal Roe.

It’s a bald faced lie to accuse Collins of intentionally setting out to make that happen. Maine is a very strongly pro choice state and has been for decades it is no benefit to her to have had that happen and because it did she’s weaker than she ever has been.


Exactly. And Susan Collins IS pro-choice. I rolled my eyes so hard at the PP's idiotic claim.

Impossible. You cannot be pro-choice and then use your political power and votes to knowingly install three anti-choice SCOTUS Justices. All she had to do was read their prior decisions and in ACB's case, she wrote a paper on the matter. So nah, Collins is definitely not pro-choice. Her votes speaks otherwise.


+1 actions speak louder than words
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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have a gift link to the NYT?

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/04/us/politics/platner-maine-senate-girlfriends-relationships.html?unlocked_article_code=1.nlA.kNmw.ZkiPTf_cSQPm&smid=url-share


"Some of the women also raised questions about his trustworthiness. Mr. Platner’s insistence that he did not know that his tattoo was a Nazi symbol until it became a campaign issue last fall was simply not true, Ms. Fifield said. After all, she said, he had taught her the word for it years earlier, referring to it as “my Totenkopf.”

BAM.

This woman worked for heritage foundation and Susan Collins campaign. I’m taking her words as biased and revisionist history in favor of her candidate.


She had contemporaneous proof of her claims which, interestingly, the NYT chose not to include in their story.
What we are seeing is total evidence that Democrats don't really believe all women. They only believe the women who do and say things that are political expedient to them.

I don't believe all women. I am a former state prosecutor who almost got burned prosecuting a young man for rape. It was not until late in the case that more evidence came to light showing she was not truthful in her account. So no, I don't automatically believe all women without some verification. And I am not happy about that feeling, but it is what it is.


I also don't believe all women unless there is good reason to do so. Did you believe Christine Blasey Ford's allegation? Because if you recall, she had zero verification.

Read what I wrote and stop with the whataboutism. And then ask yourself, did you? And do you believe Lyndsey?


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I absolutely believe Lyndsey. She has contemporaneous proof of her claims - which the NYT chose not to include in their story.
CBF had ZERO proof of any of her claims. She was a tool of the left.

Okay. You have selective accountability. You believe the NYT hit piece story against Platner, but at the same time believe that the hit piece is hiding this alleged proof that only Lyndsey was aware. Got it!
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Anonymous wrote:Seeing "Dems say Platner must drop out"

Okay and...

REPLACE HIM WITH WHO???? WHO DO THE DEMS HAVE WHO IS POLLING HIGHER THAN BOTH PLATNER AND COLLINS???

If you can't answer with a name then that's a huge problem. Because Collins HAS TO GO.


Isn't it something to see democrats support a racist, sexist, antisemite in an effort to win a seat?
Win at any cost. Even if it proves you are morally bankrupt in the process.


If what's claimed about Platner turns out to be real, we get rid of him in the following cycle.

My bet, however, is that all of this just vanishes into the ether the day after election day, just as so many other "scandals" have in the past.


He is on record admitting that he had that Nazi tattoo on his chest for 17 years. It’s a scandal that some Dems either are so gullible to believe that he didn’t know what it was or are so power hungry that they don’t care that some guy with Nazi tattoos is running in their party because he’s charismatic and has a chance in Maine.


Lots of people have stupid tattoos from when they were young and dumb. But at least he knows it was a stupid tattoo. The MAGAs running around with confederate flags and white supremacist tats won't acknowledge that whatsoever.


No he doesn’t. He removed it for political expediency. If you believe a guy this steeped in WW2 history, who studied history in GWU and was in the Marines, Blackwater, and the State Department just accidentally got an SS officer’s logo tattooed on his chest you’re an idiot, or worse, just don’t care.

You know how many variations of skull and crossbones images you can find for tattoos? I’d guess you could find hundreds if not thousands. But this is the one this Reddit edgelord history buff got, in a place on his body that people aren’t going to regularly see, and I’m just supposed to believe it was a coincidence? And he went to Croatia to get it, a place where tattoo shops are presumably more loose about giving people Nazi tattoos than a tattoo parlor in Portland Maine or Washington DC?

Please stop insulting everyone’s intelligence.



Your narrative makes it sound like he got that tattoo AFTER he studied history and served in the State Department and so on, and AFTER he should have known better.

That's completely upside-down and backwards. He got that tattoo when he was barely out of his teens. He went straight from high school into the Marines, and straight into combat, surrounded by other dumb kids straight out of high school, drinking too much and so on. And Croatia, someplace like Zagreb where a bunch of young GIs might go will have its share of tattoo parlors where you point to a picture in a book or chart on the wall with all kinds of images, including crap like the Totenkopf.


Platner is 41. He got it 17 years ago by his own admission. That makes him 24 when he got it. In the NY Times Daily interview he said he was a history nerd in high school who was such a history nerd that he participated in Civil War reenactments.

Even if you give him grace and pretend he didn’t know what he was getting when he was 24 - not barely out of his teens - you are telling me to believe that this history buff who presumably watched a lot of documentaries and movies about WW2 didn’t notice the glaring resemblance that his tattoo had to the symbol worn by all SS soldiers and and officers in these movies and documentaries and in the history books he read? And all of his supposed Marine buddies that got the same tattoo, some of which are presumably not completely ignorant about WW2 either, never realized the connection either in these 17 years and didn’t call him to say, “Hey man, I think we made a big mistake in Croatia. You need to get that tattoo removed!”

There is like a .001% chance that is true. Again, stop insulting my intelligence.


You are doing a fantastic job of that all by yourself
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He is a pathological liar.



Several lies here.

Collins's husband retired in '16, so he's not a lobbyist. He last lobbied for American Defense Int'l in '08, years before he married Collins.

And, Platner joined the Marines in '04, two years after Senate voted to authorize Iraq.
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Anonymous wrote:Also, how is this thread any different than all the shrieking over Mamdani who is doing a pretty good job in NYC?


Does Mamdani have Nazi tattoos? I mean, the glossing over of the fact that someone who was a Marine, Blackwater contractor, State Department security officer - who talks all the time about how into history he is - had a Nazi tattoo on his chest for 17 years is literally insane to me.

Again, this is the tattoo he had, which is on the collar of every SS officer and also front and center on their troops helmets.



If you are so gullible that you believe it was just a coincidence that he got THIS specific skull and crossbones tattoo, out of all the ones out there to choose from, by complete accident and was ignorant to it being a Nazi symbol for 17 years even though by his own admission he is obsessed with WW2 history you are too dumb to vote.

I wish people would have the courage to just admit they actually don’t care if he got a Nazi tattoo and proudly wore it and they don’t care about white supremacy either, they just want to win by any means necessary in Maine. Just be honest.


And, for those who say he changed his behavior years ago--the sexting issue, while not the worst of the problems--is quite recent. Also, the presence on that troublesome site that has lots of kids. Not saying he is a child predator, but it is possible.


Maine Democrats are having their Access Hollywood moment. And, like the MAGA and Trump, we will see them show they have no morals.

This thread sounds so much like MAGA after the Access Hollywood info came out that it’s eerie.


And? What is your point? Republicans are destroying the country. It is incumbent to stop them.


This is exactly what the MAGA thought of Democrats in 2016. They thought Democrats were destroying the country so they ignored their morals even after Access Hollywood and voted for Trump. The parallels in behavior are uncanny.

Do you realize how much you sound and act like MAGA? You are as animalistic and emotion-driven as they were and are.
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Anonymous wrote:Oh, look...more dirt on the scumbag Republican woman quoted in the article. You have to be a moron not to see the agenda of those trying to destroy Platner:

She started the group "Ladies for (Brett)Kavanaugh"


But but but you told us we had to believe Kavanaugh’s accuser without question even if there was far less contemporaneous evidence than there is here. Hm, it’s almost as if you have no morals.


TBH I'm not following this closely, but why would a woman who was abused by Platner, stand against Kavanaugh's accuser? If she wants people to believe her, why wouldn't she believe CBF?

Either it's insane cognitive dissonance or pure political ploy -- both times!


Because she was being paid to attack CBF.

Plattner's mistake is that he didn't put these women on his campaign payroll.

It’s only one woman.


There were three women who described their relationships with Platner, in addition to interviews with over two dozen people.
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There were six women who described their relationship with Platner. Three gave him a good boyfriend review. Two gave him a not-so-good boyfriend review. And one, the person who worked for Susan Collins, Nikki Haley, and The Heritage Foundation, said he was abusive because he grabbed her arm, locked her in the bedroom and told her to calm down.


That’s more women than accused Kavanaugh yet you tried to derail his nomination. And Ford objectively had far less contemporaneous evidence.
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Anonymous wrote:Oh, look...more dirt on the scumbag Republican woman quoted in the article. You have to be a moron not to see the agenda of those trying to destroy Platner:

She started the group "Ladies for (Brett)Kavanaugh"


But but but you told us we had to believe Kavanaugh’s accuser without question even if there was far less contemporaneous evidence than there is here. Hm, it’s almost as if you have no morals.


TBH I'm not following this closely, but why would a woman who was abused by Platner, stand against Kavanaugh's accuser? If she wants people to believe her, why wouldn't she believe CBF?

Either it's insane cognitive dissonance or pure political ploy -- both times!


Because she was being paid to attack CBF.

Plattner's mistake is that he didn't put these women on his campaign payroll.

It’s only one woman.


There were three women who described their relationships with Platner, in addition to interviews with over two dozen people.
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There were six women who described their relationship with Platner. Three gave him a good boyfriend review. Two gave him a not-so-good boyfriend review. And one, the person who worked for Susan Collins, Nikki Haley, and The Heritage Foundation, said he was abusive because he grabbed her arm, locked her in the bedroom and told her to calm down.


That’s more women than accused Kavanaugh yet you tried to derail his nomination. And Ford objectively had far less contemporaneous evidence.

Are you daft. Don't answer that. The obvious answer is, absolutely. It's one woman, woman. ONE!!!
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If you compare base facts between Kavanaugh and Platner, Platner comes off worse. I personally do not see how anyone who believed Ford and opposed Kavanaugh can support Platner. Kavanaugh was a high schooler at the time of the alleged assault and there was no contemporaneous evidence of the alleged assault, whereas Platner was an adult and there is some contemporaneous evidence, albeit imperfect. Ford went first to Anna Eshoo and then Feinstein, Platner’s accuser is a conservative activist (but this happened in the days before DC was so polarized; that sort of dating wasn’t rare); that washes out. There are more women allegedly in the wings with more than there were with Kavanaugh. And, there weren’t any adult accusations of Kavanaugh, it was from when he was a teen.

I am genuinely trying to understand how Democrats that wholeheartedly supported Ford can continue to support Platner and even worse, attack the woman who came forward so viciously. It seems completely hypocritical.
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Anonymous wrote:If you compare base facts between Kavanaugh and Platner, Platner comes off worse. I personally do not see how anyone who believed Ford and opposed Kavanaugh can support Platner. Kavanaugh was a high schooler at the time of the alleged assault and there was no contemporaneous evidence of the alleged assault, whereas Platner was an adult and there is some contemporaneous evidence, albeit imperfect. Ford went first to Anna Eshoo and then Feinstein, Platner’s accuser is a conservative activist (but this happened in the days before DC was so polarized; that sort of dating wasn’t rare); that washes out. There are more women allegedly in the wings with more than there were with Kavanaugh. And, there weren’t any adult accusations of Kavanaugh, it was from when he was a teen.

I am genuinely trying to understand how Democrats that wholeheartedly supported Ford can continue to support Platner and even worse, attack the woman who came forward so viciously. It seems completely hypocritical.

Probably because the other five women had an entirely different experience, and they are also not attached to a political agenda as this one woman obviously is. Also, why is everyone calling it sexual assault? Where was the sexual assault allegation, or is it simply that her gender makes it sexual?
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Anonymous wrote:I am genuinely trying to understand how Democrats that wholeheartedly supported Ford can continue to support Platner and even worse, attack the woman who came forward so viciously. It seems completely hypocritical.


I just wrote a blog post about this. Lyndsey Fifield herself started an organization aimed at discrediting Christine Blasey Ford. This was just a couple of years after Fifield says that she had been in an abusive relationship. If her relationship with Platner was as abusive as she says, she doesn't appear to have gained much empathy from it. Regardless, as I wrote in my blog, it is reasonable to have the same doubts about Fifield as Fifield clearly had about Blasey Ford.

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OMG.

It’s much bigger than I imagined.
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Anonymous wrote:Also, how is this thread any different than all the shrieking over Mamdani who is doing a pretty good job in NYC?


Does Mamdani have Nazi tattoos? I mean, the glossing over of the fact that someone who was a Marine, Blackwater contractor, State Department security officer - who talks all the time about how into history he is - had a Nazi tattoo on his chest for 17 years is literally insane to me.

Again, this is the tattoo he had, which is on the collar of every SS officer and also front and center on their troops helmets.



If you are so gullible that you believe it was just a coincidence that he got THIS specific skull and crossbones tattoo, out of all the ones out there to choose from, by complete accident and was ignorant to it being a Nazi symbol for 17 years even though by his own admission he is obsessed with WW2 history you are too dumb to vote.

I wish people would have the courage to just admit they actually don’t care if he got a Nazi tattoo and proudly wore it and they don’t care about white supremacy either, they just want to win by any means necessary in Maine. Just be honest.


And, for those who say he changed his behavior years ago--the sexting issue, while not the worst of the problems--is quite recent. Also, the presence on that troublesome site that has lots of kids. Not saying he is a child predator, but it is possible.


Maine Democrats are having their Access Hollywood moment. And, like the MAGA and Trump, we will see them show they have no morals.

This thread sounds so much like MAGA after the Access Hollywood info came out that it’s eerie.


And? What is your point? Republicans are destroying the country. It is incumbent to stop them.


This is exactly what the MAGA thought of Democrats in 2016. They thought Democrats were destroying the country so they ignored their morals even after Access Hollywood and voted for Trump. The parallels in behavior are uncanny.

Do you realize how much you sound and act like MAGA? You are as animalistic and emotion-driven as they were and are.


+1. This exactly
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Anonymous wrote:Also, how is this thread any different than all the shrieking over Mamdani who is doing a pretty good job in NYC?


Does Mamdani have Nazi tattoos? I mean, the glossing over of the fact that someone who was a Marine, Blackwater contractor, State Department security officer - who talks all the time about how into history he is - had a Nazi tattoo on his chest for 17 years is literally insane to me.

Again, this is the tattoo he had, which is on the collar of every SS officer and also front and center on their troops helmets.



If you are so gullible that you believe it was just a coincidence that he got THIS specific skull and crossbones tattoo, out of all the ones out there to choose from, by complete accident and was ignorant to it being a Nazi symbol for 17 years even though by his own admission he is obsessed with WW2 history you are too dumb to vote.

I wish people would have the courage to just admit they actually don’t care if he got a Nazi tattoo and proudly wore it and they don’t care about white supremacy either, they just want to win by any means necessary in Maine. Just be honest.


And, for those who say he changed his behavior years ago--the sexting issue, while not the worst of the problems--is quite recent. Also, the presence on that troublesome site that has lots of kids. Not saying he is a child predator, but it is possible.


Maine Democrats are having their Access Hollywood moment. And, like the MAGA and Trump, we will see them show they have no morals.

This thread sounds so much like MAGA after the Access Hollywood info came out that it’s eerie.


And? What is your point? Republicans are destroying the country. It is incumbent to stop them.


This is exactly what the MAGA thought of Democrats in 2016. They thought Democrats were destroying the country so they ignored their morals even after Access Hollywood and voted for Trump. The parallels in behavior are uncanny.

Do you realize how much you sound and act like MAGA? You are as animalistic and emotion-driven as they were and are.


+1. This exactly


The issue with Trump was never access Hollywood. The issues were his obvious grifter history, nasty rhetoric, and being a tool for billionaires and Russians. His abuse of women was icing on the turd cake.

Personally I don’t care what politicians do in their free time if they vote for policies that protect the middle class.
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