Biden’s latest Poll numbers

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Anonymous wrote:The NY Times is doing everything it can to undermine Biden. to wit, look at how perception is shaped versus reality vis a vis the economy



I mean, how is Biden supposed to be polling well when the media, and especially the NY Times, simply lies about the economy and how well things generally actually are?


Maybe crippling inflation is what most people think about when they look at the economy.
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Anonymous wrote:The NY Times is doing everything it can to undermine Biden. to wit, look at how perception is shaped versus reality vis a vis the economy



I mean, how is Biden supposed to be polling well when the media, and especially the NY Times, simply lies about the economy and how well things generally actually are?


Honestly, I don’t think many of the people that are voting for Trump based on the economy being terrible are regularly reading the NYT. Around 90% of NYT subscribers are Democrats.
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So, you're saying there's a chance?!


FWIW I think Dukakis was leading by 18 points in May 1988. Bush had a huge lead over Gore in July 2000. Things change. People are ducking pollsters’ calls. They aren’t locked in yet.
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These results are so wildly different than the NYT ones.


These NY Times?

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The four-day poll, which closed on Monday, showed just 36% of Americans approve of Biden's job performance as president, down from 38% in April. It was a return to the lowest approval rating of his presidency, last seen in July 2022. While this month's drop was within the poll's 3 percentage point margin of error, it could bode poorly for Biden as he faces off with Republican Donald Trump in the Nov. 5 presidential election.

Too bad for Democrats. They’re in trouble.
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Nevada was Trump’s slam-dunk swing state a few days ago. He was up by double-digits! Now it’s tied. What’s up with the polling? Maybe we should all stop obsessing over polls.
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These results are so wildly different than the NYT ones.


FWIW Warnock won GA by 3 points in 2022. Kelly won Arizona by 5 points in 2022. And inflation was higher in 2022 than it is now. Personally, I believe senate races are very good proxies for presidential races.
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Anonymous wrote:The NY Times is doing everything it can to undermine Biden. to wit, look at how perception is shaped versus reality vis a vis the economy



I mean, how is Biden supposed to be polling well when the media, and especially the NY Times, simply lies about the economy and how well things generally actually are?


Honestly, I don’t think many of the people that are voting for Trump based on the economy being terrible are regularly reading the NYT. Around 90% of NYT subscribers are Democrats.


The people that are already 100% committed to voting for Trump aren't doing so because the economy is "terrible". They may use the economy as an excuse for voting for Trump when they discuss their thoughts on the 2024 election with themselves or others but the current the underlying issues in the economy haven't yet begun to have a wide reaching impact and Biden deserves only a small portion of the blame for the underlying issues. An economic downturn will happen within the next 2 to 3 years and it will be felt by the majority of Americans. This next downturn is will be a result of the cyclical nature of our large economy combined with the after effects of trillions of dollars being pumped into the economy in a very short period of time in 2020 and 2021. Trump doesn't have the integrity necessary to hold the position of most powerful person in the world. Most Trump supporters are smart enough to realize this but they push this knowledge to the very back corners of their minds because they don't want to admit they were wrong in supporting him all along. It's basic human nature at it's worst. Yes, in most elections, it's the economy, economy, economy and the economy could actually become a primary factor that causes some undecided voters not to vote for Biden if the downturn is being felt by more people in October. As of right now, Trump supporters and committed Trump voters aren't in Trump's corner because of the Biden economy.
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Anonymous wrote:The NY Times is doing everything it can to undermine Biden. to wit, look at how perception is shaped versus reality vis a vis the economy



I mean, how is Biden supposed to be polling well when the media, and especially the NY Times, simply lies about the economy and how well things generally actually are?


Honestly, I don’t think many of the people that are voting for Trump based on the economy being terrible are regularly reading the NYT. Around 90% of NYT subscribers are Democrats.


The people that are already 100% committed to voting for Trump aren't doing so because the economy is "terrible". They may use the economy as an excuse for voting for Trump when they discuss their thoughts on the 2024 election with themselves or others but the current the underlying issues in the economy haven't yet begun to have a wide reaching impact and Biden deserves only a small portion of the blame for the underlying issues. An economic downturn will happen within the next 2 to 3 years and it will be felt by the majority of Americans. This next downturn is will be a result of the cyclical nature of our large economy combined with the after effects of trillions of dollars being pumped into the economy in a very short period of time in 2020 and 2021. Trump doesn't have the integrity necessary to hold the position of most powerful person in the world. Most Trump supporters are smart enough to realize this but they push this knowledge to the very back corners of their minds because they don't want to admit they were wrong in supporting him all along. It's basic human nature at it's worst. Yes, in most elections, it's the economy, economy, economy and the economy could actually become a primary factor that causes some undecided voters not to vote for Biden if the downturn is being felt by more people in October. As of right now, Trump supporters and committed Trump voters aren't in Trump's corner because of the Biden economy.


What downturn?

With the exception of inflation, which is rooted in the COVID recovery, there is no downtown.

GDP is up
Unemployment is down.
Job growth is at record highs.
Energy production is at all time highs.
The stock market is riding highs.

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Anonymous wrote:The NY Times is doing everything it can to undermine Biden. to wit, look at how perception is shaped versus reality vis a vis the economy



I mean, how is Biden supposed to be polling well when the media, and especially the NY Times, simply lies about the economy and how well things generally actually are?


Honestly, I don’t think many of the people that are voting for Trump based on the economy being terrible are regularly reading the NYT. Around 90% of NYT subscribers are Democrats.


The people that are already 100% committed to voting for Trump aren't doing so because the economy is "terrible". They may use the economy as an excuse for voting for Trump when they discuss their thoughts on the 2024 election with themselves or others but the current the underlying issues in the economy haven't yet begun to have a wide reaching impact and Biden deserves only a small portion of the blame for the underlying issues. An economic downturn will happen within the next 2 to 3 years and it will be felt by the majority of Americans. This next downturn is will be a result of the cyclical nature of our large economy combined with the after effects of trillions of dollars being pumped into the economy in a very short period of time in 2020 and 2021. Trump doesn't have the integrity necessary to hold the position of most powerful person in the world. Most Trump supporters are smart enough to realize this but they push this knowledge to the very back corners of their minds because they don't want to admit they were wrong in supporting him all along. It's basic human nature at it's worst. Yes, in most elections, it's the economy, economy, economy and the economy could actually become a primary factor that causes some undecided voters not to vote for Biden if the downturn is being felt by more people in October. As of right now, Trump supporters and committed Trump voters aren't in Trump's corner because of the Biden economy.


What downturn?

With the exception of inflation, which is rooted in the COVID recovery, there is no downtown.

GDP is up
Unemployment is down.
Job growth is at record highs.
Energy production is at all time highs.
The stock market is riding highs.



How was the play Mrs Lincoln? With the exception of everything being more expensive, the economy is great
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Anonymous wrote:The NY Times is doing everything it can to undermine Biden. to wit, look at how perception is shaped versus reality vis a vis the economy



I mean, how is Biden supposed to be polling well when the media, and especially the NY Times, simply lies about the economy and how well things generally actually are?


Honestly, I don’t think many of the people that are voting for Trump based on the economy being terrible are regularly reading the NYT. Around 90% of NYT subscribers are Democrats.


The people that are already 100% committed to voting for Trump aren't doing so because the economy is "terrible". They may use the economy as an excuse for voting for Trump when they discuss their thoughts on the 2024 election with themselves or others but the current the underlying issues in the economy haven't yet begun to have a wide reaching impact and Biden deserves only a small portion of the blame for the underlying issues. An economic downturn will happen within the next 2 to 3 years and it will be felt by the majority of Americans. This next downturn is will be a result of the cyclical nature of our large economy combined with the after effects of trillions of dollars being pumped into the economy in a very short period of time in 2020 and 2021. Trump doesn't have the integrity necessary to hold the position of most powerful person in the world. Most Trump supporters are smart enough to realize this but they push this knowledge to the very back corners of their minds because they don't want to admit they were wrong in supporting him all along. It's basic human nature at it's worst. Yes, in most elections, it's the economy, economy, economy and the economy could actually become a primary factor that causes some undecided voters not to vote for Biden if the downturn is being felt by more people in October. As of right now, Trump supporters and committed Trump voters aren't in Trump's corner because of the Biden economy.


What downturn?

With the exception of inflation, which is rooted in the COVID recovery, there is no downtown.

GDP is up
Unemployment is down.
Job growth is at record highs.
Energy production is at all time highs.
The stock market is riding highs.



How was the play Mrs Lincoln? With the exception of everything being more expensive, the economy is great


“You get paid $100 more a month, but the price of owning a home is triple what it was in 2020 and eggs are $5 a carton so the economy is doing great!”

The cost of housing is people’s biggest expense, followed by essentials like food, gas, and car notes. Housing and cars are exponentially more expensive than they were before Biden came into office so these gains you’re citing in the economy don’t even come close for making up for people’s ballooning costs. The “the Dow is up so stfu about not ever being able to afford a home because prices have increased while rates have tripled” messaging is very tone deaf and not winning anyone over.
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Didn’t the NYT accurately predict the crushing red wave of 2022?
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Anonymous wrote:The NY Times is doing everything it can to undermine Biden. to wit, look at how perception is shaped versus reality vis a vis the economy



I mean, how is Biden supposed to be polling well when the media, and especially the NY Times, simply lies about the economy and how well things generally actually are?


Honestly, I don’t think many of the people that are voting for Trump based on the economy being terrible are regularly reading the NYT. Around 90% of NYT subscribers are Democrats.


The people that are already 100% committed to voting for Trump aren't doing so because the economy is "terrible". They may use the economy as an excuse for voting for Trump when they discuss their thoughts on the 2024 election with themselves or others but the current the underlying issues in the economy haven't yet begun to have a wide reaching impact and Biden deserves only a small portion of the blame for the underlying issues. An economic downturn will happen within the next 2 to 3 years and it will be felt by the majority of Americans. This next downturn is will be a result of the cyclical nature of our large economy combined with the after effects of trillions of dollars being pumped into the economy in a very short period of time in 2020 and 2021. Trump doesn't have the integrity necessary to hold the position of most powerful person in the world. Most Trump supporters are smart enough to realize this but they push this knowledge to the very back corners of their minds because they don't want to admit they were wrong in supporting him all along. It's basic human nature at it's worst. Yes, in most elections, it's the economy, economy, economy and the economy could actually become a primary factor that causes some undecided voters not to vote for Biden if the downturn is being felt by more people in October. As of right now, Trump supporters and committed Trump voters aren't in Trump's corner because of the Biden economy.


What downturn?

With the exception of inflation, which is rooted in the COVID recovery, there is no downtown.

GDP is up
Unemployment is down.
Job growth is at record highs.
Energy production is at all time highs.
The stock market is riding highs.



How was the play Mrs Lincoln? With the exception of everything being more expensive, the economy is great


FWIW inflation now is lower than it was in October 1984 when Reagan won 49 states.
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Anonymous wrote:The NY Times is doing everything it can to undermine Biden. to wit, look at how perception is shaped versus reality vis a vis the economy



I mean, how is Biden supposed to be polling well when the media, and especially the NY Times, simply lies about the economy and how well things generally actually are?


Honestly, I don’t think many of the people that are voting for Trump based on the economy being terrible are regularly reading the NYT. Around 90% of NYT subscribers are Democrats.


The people that are already 100% committed to voting for Trump aren't doing so because the economy is "terrible". They may use the economy as an excuse for voting for Trump when they discuss their thoughts on the 2024 election with themselves or others but the current the underlying issues in the economy haven't yet begun to have a wide reaching impact and Biden deserves only a small portion of the blame for the underlying issues. An economic downturn will happen within the next 2 to 3 years and it will be felt by the majority of Americans. This next downturn is will be a result of the cyclical nature of our large economy combined with the after effects of trillions of dollars being pumped into the economy in a very short period of time in 2020 and 2021. Trump doesn't have the integrity necessary to hold the position of most powerful person in the world. Most Trump supporters are smart enough to realize this but they push this knowledge to the very back corners of their minds because they don't want to admit they were wrong in supporting him all along. It's basic human nature at it's worst. Yes, in most elections, it's the economy, economy, economy and the economy could actually become a primary factor that causes some undecided voters not to vote for Biden if the downturn is being felt by more people in October. As of right now, Trump supporters and committed Trump voters aren't in Trump's corner because of the Biden economy.


What downturn?

With the exception of inflation, which is rooted in the COVID recovery, there is no downtown.

GDP is up
Unemployment is down.
Job growth is at record highs.
Energy production is at all time highs.
The stock market is riding highs.



How was the play Mrs Lincoln? With the exception of everything being more expensive, the economy is great


FWIW inflation now is lower than it was in October 1984 when Reagan won 49 states.


This is a fascinating statistic. Americans are so schizophrenic.
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Anonymous wrote:The NY Times is doing everything it can to undermine Biden. to wit, look at how perception is shaped versus reality vis a vis the economy



I mean, how is Biden supposed to be polling well when the media, and especially the NY Times, simply lies about the economy and how well things generally actually are?


Honestly, I don’t think many of the people that are voting for Trump based on the economy being terrible are regularly reading the NYT. Around 90% of NYT subscribers are Democrats.


The people that are already 100% committed to voting for Trump aren't doing so because the economy is "terrible". They may use the economy as an excuse for voting for Trump when they discuss their thoughts on the 2024 election with themselves or others but the current the underlying issues in the economy haven't yet begun to have a wide reaching impact and Biden deserves only a small portion of the blame for the underlying issues. An economic downturn will happen within the next 2 to 3 years and it will be felt by the majority of Americans. This next downturn is will be a result of the cyclical nature of our large economy combined with the after effects of trillions of dollars being pumped into the economy in a very short period of time in 2020 and 2021. Trump doesn't have the integrity necessary to hold the position of most powerful person in the world. Most Trump supporters are smart enough to realize this but they push this knowledge to the very back corners of their minds because they don't want to admit they were wrong in supporting him all along. It's basic human nature at it's worst. Yes, in most elections, it's the economy, economy, economy and the economy could actually become a primary factor that causes some undecided voters not to vote for Biden if the downturn is being felt by more people in October. As of right now, Trump supporters and committed Trump voters aren't in Trump's corner because of the Biden economy.


What downturn?

With the exception of inflation, which is rooted in the COVID recovery, there is no downtown.

GDP is up
Unemployment is down.
Job growth is at record highs.
Energy production is at all time highs.
The stock market is riding highs.



How was the play Mrs Lincoln? With the exception of everything being more expensive, the economy is great


“You get paid $100 more a month, but the price of owning a home is triple what it was in 2020 and eggs are $5 a carton so the economy is doing great!”

The cost of housing is people’s biggest expense, followed by essentials like food, gas, and car notes. Housing and cars are exponentially more expensive than they were before Biden came into office so these gains you’re citing in the economy don’t even come close for making up for people’s ballooning costs. The “the Dow is up so stfu about not ever being able to afford a home because prices have increased while rates have tripled” messaging is very tone deaf and not winning anyone over.


I got my eggs at the local Safeway for $3.00

Are buying the double yoke organic or something?
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