Physicians Assistant yelling “HELP ME” while stealing a CitiBike ?

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Anonymous wrote:What did she say after “HELP ME HELP ME” that related to the bike transaction?

Nothing. Not one word of defense or explanation or reason why it’s her bike.

I like how she’s just casually draping her hand on his arm as she’s loudly saying “Halp. Please halp me. Get off me.” She is not scared, she is not in danger. The hysterics start when the colleague shows up, and immediately stop as soon as he’s like, maybe get a different bike?

Yeah, like once she actually pays for one? Those of you suggesting she had a membership are really reaching!

He wouldn’t let her pay for it. That’s why his hand is there. He hadn’t paid for it either! Which is why his hand is there!!

He had paid for it, there was a code on his phone he was showing. That pre-paid code is what unlocks the bike. She hadn't paid.

Np. Ok so, to clarify, he may have paid for a ride (not a specific bike) and he decided he wanted the bike this lady was in the process of renting?

I’ve never used these bikes before but there appears to be a lot of confusion around how they are used.

No he was in the process of renting it and she sat on it to prevent him from completing it. She didn't start at all, just sat on it.

So, in your mind a pregnant woman who just got off a long shift at work, decide to go sit on a bike and play stupid games with a bunch of teen boys. That's what you think happened here? Not the more likely explanation that these boys found an easy target and decided to mess with her?

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+1 Her defenders won't address why she grabbed his phone.

I don’t think she was wrong to call for help or to expect that she’d be allowed to rent a bike she’d sat down on, but I don’t think she should have grabbed his phone.

However, it’s also clear from the video she grabs his phone to try and prevent him from renting the bike out from under her. Again, she should not have done it. But she was on a bike and this guy decided he was going to take it from her. I get why she was upset and asking for help.

Any hyper analysis of her actions should also include the same for the men. It is presumptuous to assume she's completely in the wrong and they were perfectly behaved.

DP. Neither of them are immune from criticism. Something happened before the video started, and at this point it is just conjecture, but a couple of things are clear even without knowing what happened before:

1. You don't claim a bike by sitting on it. Even if you have to take a moment to arrange your things, the bike isn't yours until scanned. It's like going to a counter restaurant where it's posted not to "grab a table" before you make your purchase.

2. If someone could have just scanned a bike that wasn't being sat on, and the bikes were all of equivalent quality, then there isn't any reason beyond sh!t-disturbing to target one that was sat on. You have to be looking for a fight to do that, or trying to prove a point that obviously is about power games.

Maybe they accidentally both walked up to a bike at the same time. Maybe they ran up to it at the same time, trying to beat each other. Maybe she was sitting there without scanning, and he wanted to pick a fight. Maybe he was there with his phone out but not yet having scanned, and she came up and sat on it knowing that.

Doesn't matter. It wasn't hers if she hadn't scanned it, and she could have just gotten up off the bike he hadn't scanned yet, and then taken another. Rude of him, yes, but also not hers yet. OR he could have just left the one she was sitting on and scanned another. Rude of her to insist the bike was hers before scanning, yes, but also no reason for him to push the point unless he was looking for a fight.

I don't get the crying for help. The most helpful thing is to get out of that situation, and she could do that without escalating. I also don't get the laughter at her. Unless you are looking to escalate and pick a fight, there is no reason not to get out of the situation by just moving over.

PS (same PP):

The thing is, either of them could have de-escalated. He could have turned away from the bike she was sitting at to unlock another instead, right? And she could have gotten up off the bike which was not yet scanned and just scanned the one next to it instead, right?

Regardless of what lead up to that moment, both of them made the choice to prove a point, when another answer was right there next to them. And you can argue about whether that was worth doing, but it wasn't just about getting a bike and getting out of there for either of them. We can't make sense of it without the information about what happened before, but we can see that both of them made the choice not to let it go, for whatever reason.

It's an ideal set-up for internet strangers to read into the situation and get more riled up about whatever already was bothering them.

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So it could have been a couple of things.

1. He was standing next to the bike preparing to rent it and she ran up and sat down on it because she also wanted to rent it.

2. She sat down on the bike preparing to rent it and he walked up and attempted to rent it while she was already seated

The video does not start early enough to show which situation occurred.

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Anonymous wrote:So it could have been a couple of things.

1. He was standing next to the bike preparing to rent it and she ran up and sat down on it because she also wanted to rent it.

2. She sat down on the bike preparing to rent it and he walked up and attempted to rent it while she was already seated

The video does not start early enough to show which situation occurred.

Exactly. And either way, it looks like either one of them could have just grabbed a different bike. That would have avoided confrontation but meant either losing face, or giving in, or whatever framing made it not acceptable to them.

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Her attorney now claims she had already rented the bike when the guy came up to her, forcefully pushed the bike back into to the stand relocking it and then pushed her aside to rent it while she is sitting on it. She has rental receipts. She wasn't holding her phone because she had already rented the bike and put the phone away. This before filming started.

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Anonymous wrote:Her attorney now claims she had already rented the bike when the guy came up to her, forcefully pushed the bike back into to the stand relocking it and then pushed her aside to rent it while she is sitting on it. She has rental receipts. She wasn't holding her phone because she had already rented the bike and put the phone away. This before filming started.

Link?

If true, I hope everyone who dragged this woman through mud and equated her to the woman who got Emmett Till murdered enjoys their big 'ole bowl full of rotten, putrid, toxic crow. They made it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Her attorney now claims she had already rented the bike when the guy came up to her, forcefully pushed the bike back into to the stand relocking it and then pushed her aside to rent it while she is sitting on it. She has rental receipts. She wasn't holding her phone because she had already rented the bike and put the phone away. This before filming started.

Are they posting the rental receipts with time stamps? Because there is no reason not to, and thereby make it clear, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Her attorney now claims she had already rented the bike when the guy came up to her, forcefully pushed the bike back into to the stand relocking it and then pushed her aside to rent it while she is sitting on it. She has rental receipts. She wasn't holding her phone because she had already rented the bike and put the phone away. This before filming started.

wow

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Anonymous wrote:Her attorney now claims she had already rented the bike when the guy came up to her, forcefully pushed the bike back into to the stand relocking it and then pushed her aside to rent it while she is sitting on it. She has rental receipts. She wasn't holding her phone because she had already rented the bike and put the phone away. This before filming started.

If that's the case... wow. What a scandal. Going to backfire really badly on the people who were trying to run a witchhunt on this lady

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Anonymous wrote:Her attorney now claims she had already rented the bike when the guy came up to her, forcefully pushed the bike back into to the stand relocking it and then pushed her aside to rent it while she is sitting on it. She has rental receipts. She wasn't holding her phone because she had already rented the bike and put the phone away. This before filming started.

wow

It is a huge "wow" if correct. No doubting that.

If it's not correct, it's the only interpretation which would be a huge "wow" in her favor, so it wouldn't be a surprise if that got run up the flagpole to see if it works. But that's easily disproven by posting the receipts they claim they have, with time stamp right there. Have they?

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Anonymous wrote:Her attorney now claims she had already rented the bike when the guy came up to her, forcefully pushed the bike back into to the stand relocking it and then pushed her aside to rent it while she is sitting on it. She has rental receipts. She wasn't holding her phone because she had already rented the bike and put the phone away. This before filming started.

Link?

If true, I hope everyone who dragged this woman through mud and equated her to the woman who got Emmett Till murdered enjoys their big 'ole bowl full of rotten, putrid, toxic crow. They made it.

https://nypost.com/2023/05/18/nyc-hospital-karen-paid-for-citi-bike-at-center-of-fight-with-black-man/

Apparently her attorney has time-stamped receipts.

[Anonymous]

Relevant excerpts from the NY Post article:

"He also provided two Citi Bike receipts from May 12, which were timestamped just minutes apart.

The first receipt reviewed by The Post shows the bike being taken out before it was re-locked one minute later, which Marino said is the bike seen in the video.

The second receipt shows another bike being taken out a minute later from the same docking station and was the bike Marino said his client used to get home after being “heckled and pressured to find a new bike” by the group."

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"He said after the health care worker wrapped up her 12-hour shift, she got on an available bike, 'which no individuals were on or touching,' and paid for it through the Citi Bike app on her phone.

As she backed it up from the docking station, a group of five people approached her and claimed the bike was theirs, he said.

'One or more individuals in that group physically pushed her bike (with her on it) back into the docking station, causing it to re-lock,' Marino said in the written statement.

One of the individuals then covered the bike’s QR code, stopping her from paying for it again so she could leave, Marino said.

'In blocking the QR code, this individual’s arm was touching my client’s pregnant stomach, a condition of which she had made them aware,' he added. 'Throughout this time and for the remainder of the video, roughly five individuals were telling her to get off the bike and heckling her.'"

I will note now that at one point in the video, there is an older man with a mask around his neck (not the hospital employee who approaches later) who is watching. Curious if he has been identified and interviewed.

Will also note that the guy in the pink/purple sweatshirt to the right in the video (who appears to be with the group hassling the woman) repeatedly tells the others that they should let her have the bike. I imagine the woman's lawyer is also looking to interview him as well.

[Anonymous]

If true that kid and the friends who encouraged him are walking sacks of sh!t, and their defenders here won’t even care.

Let’s have you scream about Emmett Till, I’d love a repeat of that, plus please append an essay about the innate racism of time-stamps.

[Anonymous]

She's 6 months pregnant, just got off a 12-hour shift at a hospital that serves a largely low-income and extremely diverse population, and she was assaulted by a group of 5 men while simply trying to go home. And for the last five days, she has been called a racist, white-supremacist, "Karen", accused of fake crying, accused of faking her pregnancy, placed on administrative leave at work, and there is a mob of angry idiots online calling for her to fired, arrested, or worse.

Y'all, I need a minute. There is simply not enough shame in the world to go around. So many people should be embarrassed but they'll just crawl back into their holes and wait for another person to harass and destroy.

This country is f****d.

[Anonymous]

If the NY Post article is correct and the receipts are legitimate, then this was absolute harassment of the PA and pretty egregious.

[Anonymous]

At this point, I'd love to see this adjudicated in a court of law. I'd like to see the veracity of the various claims settled as matter of fact after being thoroughly vetted.

Honestly, given the full context of the last few years in this country, it would be the best outcome.