Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:Putin and Russia invaded Ukraine. When they get the f**k out of there, we can get back to worrying about Ukrainian imperfections.

When they lie this shamelessly about easily provable events, don't you have to ask what else they are lying about? If your cause is just, why the need to lash out at your own citizens who dare to show the truth? These are the behaviors of people who know they are in the wrong and are deathly afraid of losing control.

Russia's actions are orders of magnitude worse than whatever Ukraine is doing wrong. Human attention just doesn't scale well. So talking about the two things in the same breath tends to minimize Russia's atrocities while magnifying Ukraine's less problematic actions. So "what about Ukraine" is a game that I'm simply not inclined to play while we're dealing with Russia being a menace to the world.

Russia's actions as portrayed by habitual liars and slanderers that is. You really should re-examine the events since 2014 (and possibly since 1991) from a different perspective. You'll find things are a lot more gray.

^ propaganda bot.

Censor.

Probably a blood relative of Genrikh Yagoda who brought his grievances against the Russian people to whatever countries he currently holds a passport with. His whole shtick is to get other people to do his fighting for him.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:America’s post-9/11 wars have led to more than 4.5 million deaths, according to a major new report from the Costs of War Project at Brown University.
https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/files/cow/imce/papers/2023/Indirect%20Deaths.pdf

Roughly 1 million of these deaths came from direct combat in war zones across Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Somalia, and Yemen, while the remaining 3.5 million are “indirect deaths” that resulted from the conflicts’ “destruction of economies, public services, and the environment,” according to the report.

The sobering findings highlight the long-term effects of the Global War on Terror, which has been the deadliest fight of the 21st century so far. The death toll, which Brown researchers described as a “reasonable and conservative estimate,” rivals that of major post-WWII conflicts, including the wars in Korea and Vietnam.

Thanks for that fascinating, but ultimately useless post. This thread is about how Russia illegally invaded the sovereign nation of Ukraine and needs to leave. Your post was meant to derail the conversation and is a classic tool of disinformation. But then again you’re either paid to post it or are a bot.

Sadly, as you know, Russia is really weakened at this point and your futile attempts at even influencing this thread away from the topic at hand have failed as miserably as your attempts to take Bakhmut.

Because no one can disagree with you otherwise?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:America’s post-9/11 wars have led to more than 4.5 million deaths, according to a major new report from the Costs of War Project at Brown University.
https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/files/cow/imce/papers/2023/Indirect%20Deaths.pdf

Roughly 1 million of these deaths came from direct combat in war zones across Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Somalia, and Yemen, while the remaining 3.5 million are “indirect deaths” that resulted from the conflicts’ “destruction of economies, public services, and the environment,” according to the report.

The sobering findings highlight the long-term effects of the Global War on Terror, which has been the deadliest fight of the 21st century so far. The death toll, which Brown researchers described as a “reasonable and conservative estimate,” rivals that of major post-WWII conflicts, including the wars in Korea and Vietnam.

Thanks for that fascinating, but ultimately useless post. This thread is about how Russia illegally invaded the sovereign nation of Ukraine and needs to leave. Your post was meant to derail the conversation and is a classic tool of disinformation. But then again you’re either paid to post it or are a bot.

Sadly, as you know, Russia is really weakened at this point and your futile attempts at even influencing this thread away from the topic at hand have failed as miserably as your attempts to take Bakhmut.

Because no one can disagree with you otherwise?

Because the odds are you are a bot or a paid shill to post those messages.

It’s obvious that Russia is the aggressor and should leave. You carrying water for Russia indicates you are sick. Again, the most likely connection is that you’re a bot or paid propagandist or you are a sociopath.

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Anonymous wrote:America’s post-9/11 wars have led to more than 4.5 million deaths, according to a major new report from the Costs of War Project at Brown University.
https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/files/cow/imce/papers/2023/Indirect%20Deaths.pdf

Roughly 1 million of these deaths came from direct combat in war zones across Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Somalia, and Yemen, while the remaining 3.5 million are “indirect deaths” that resulted from the conflicts’ “destruction of economies, public services, and the environment,” according to the report.

The sobering findings highlight the long-term effects of the Global War on Terror, which has been the deadliest fight of the 21st century so far. The death toll, which Brown researchers described as a “reasonable and conservative estimate,” rivals that of major post-WWII conflicts, including the wars in Korea and Vietnam.

Thanks for that fascinating, but ultimately useless post. This thread is about how Russia illegally invaded the sovereign nation of Ukraine and needs to leave. Your post was meant to derail the conversation and is a classic tool of disinformation. But then again you’re either paid to post it or are a bot.

Sadly, as you know, Russia is really weakened at this point and your futile attempts at even influencing this thread away from the topic at hand have failed as miserably as your attempts to take Bakhmut.

Because no one can disagree with you otherwise?

Because the odds are you are a bot or a paid shill to post those messages.

It’s obvious that Russia is the aggressor and should leave. You carrying water for Russia indicates you are sick. Again, the most likely connection is that you’re a bot or paid propagandist or you are a sociopath.

This is how the rootless-cosmopolitans try to emotionally manipulate you into doing their bidding. They badger you until you give in, then they laugh at you behind your back. Whenever people give in to them, disaster surely follows.

Russia is not our enemy, not even a rival anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:America’s post-9/11 wars have led to more than 4.5 million deaths, according to a major new report from the Costs of War Project at Brown University.
https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/files/cow/imce/papers/2023/Indirect%20Deaths.pdf

Roughly 1 million of these deaths came from direct combat in war zones across Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Somalia, and Yemen, while the remaining 3.5 million are “indirect deaths” that resulted from the conflicts’ “destruction of economies, public services, and the environment,” according to the report.

The sobering findings highlight the long-term effects of the Global War on Terror, which has been the deadliest fight of the 21st century so far. The death toll, which Brown researchers described as a “reasonable and conservative estimate,” rivals that of major post-WWII conflicts, including the wars in Korea and Vietnam.

The OVERWHELMING majority of those deaths were caused by terrorists and insurgents, killing their own countrymen. Place blame where it belongs, toxic, violent home-grown ideologies. And, this thread is about Russia vs Ukraine and your yadda yadda about the US is irrelevant to that topic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:America’s post-9/11 wars have led to more than 4.5 million deaths, according to a major new report from the Costs of War Project at Brown University.
https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/files/cow/imce/papers/2023/Indirect%20Deaths.pdf

Roughly 1 million of these deaths came from direct combat in war zones across Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Somalia, and Yemen, while the remaining 3.5 million are “indirect deaths” that resulted from the conflicts’ “destruction of economies, public services, and the environment,” according to the report.

The sobering findings highlight the long-term effects of the Global War on Terror, which has been the deadliest fight of the 21st century so far. The death toll, which Brown researchers described as a “reasonable and conservative estimate,” rivals that of major post-WWII conflicts, including the wars in Korea and Vietnam.

Thanks for that fascinating, but ultimately useless post. This thread is about how Russia illegally invaded the sovereign nation of Ukraine and needs to leave. Your post was meant to derail the conversation and is a classic tool of disinformation. But then again you’re either paid to post it or are a bot.

Sadly, as you know, Russia is really weakened at this point and your futile attempts at even influencing this thread away from the topic at hand have failed as miserably as your attempts to take Bakhmut.

Because no one can disagree with you otherwise?

Because the odds are you are a bot or a paid shill to post those messages.

It’s obvious that Russia is the aggressor and should leave. You carrying water for Russia indicates you are sick. Again, the most likely connection is that you’re a bot or paid propagandist or you are a sociopath.

This is how the rootless-cosmopolitans try to emotionally manipulate you into doing their bidding. They badger you until you give in, then they laugh at you behind your back. Whenever people give in to them, disaster surely follows.

Russia is not our enemy, not even a rival anymore.

According to Russia we are their enemy and they are going to destroy us.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J_NXpXIBy3A

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In the meantime:

An open letter calling for a swift diplomatic end to the war in Ukraine was published on Tuesday in the New York Times. The letter’s 14 signatories consisted mostly of former U.S. military officers and other national security officials, including Jack Matlock, Washington’s former ambassador to the Soviet Union; Ann Wright, a retired U.S. Army colonel and former diplomat; Matthew Hoh, a former Marine Corps officer and State Department official; and Ret. Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, who served as Secretary of State Colin Powell’s Chief of Staff.
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2023/05/17/national-security-experts-war-in-ukraine-is-an-unmitigated-disaster/
https://eisenhowermedianetwork.org/russia-ukraine-war-peace/

Look how close to our military bases they have put their country!

LoOK aT aLL thE NaTO MiLItARy BaSEs NeAR RuSSiA!! ThIS iS cLEaRLy PrOOf tHat NAtO iS hOStiLE tO RuSSiA!!!!1!!!

Yeah well look at all the Russian military bases piled up facing NATO. And look at the last 20 years of Putin's ever increasing anti-Western rhetoric.



You can't make a point against NATO without being invalidated by your own side.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:America’s post-9/11 wars have led to more than 4.5 million deaths, according to a major new report from the Costs of War Project at Brown University.
https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/files/cow/imce/papers/2023/Indirect%20Deaths.pdf

Roughly 1 million of these deaths came from direct combat in war zones across Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Somalia, and Yemen, while the remaining 3.5 million are “indirect deaths” that resulted from the conflicts’ “destruction of economies, public services, and the environment,” according to the report.

The sobering findings highlight the long-term effects of the Global War on Terror, which has been the deadliest fight of the 21st century so far. The death toll, which Brown researchers described as a “reasonable and conservative estimate,” rivals that of major post-WWII conflicts, including the wars in Korea and Vietnam.

The OVERWHELMING majority of those deaths were caused by terrorists and insurgents, killing their own countrymen. Place blame where it belongs, toxic, violent home-grown ideologies. And, this thread is about Russia vs Ukraine and your yadda yadda about the US is irrelevant to that topic.

That's not what Brown U said, but I guess a DCUM rando like you with nothing but defensiveness to your name would know better.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In the meantime:

An open letter calling for a swift diplomatic end to the war in Ukraine was published on Tuesday in the New York Times. The letter’s 14 signatories consisted mostly of former U.S. military officers and other national security officials, including Jack Matlock, Washington’s former ambassador to the Soviet Union; Ann Wright, a retired U.S. Army colonel and former diplomat; Matthew Hoh, a former Marine Corps officer and State Department official; and Ret. Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, who served as Secretary of State Colin Powell’s Chief of Staff.
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2023/05/17/national-security-experts-war-in-ukraine-is-an-unmitigated-disaster/
https://eisenhowermedianetwork.org/russia-ukraine-war-peace/

Look how close to our military bases they have put their country!

LoOK aT aLL thE NaTO MiLItARy BaSEs NeAR RuSSiA!! ThIS iS cLEaRLy PrOOf tHat NAtO iS hOStiLE tO RuSSiA!!!!1!!!

Yeah well look at all the Russian military bases piled up facing NATO. And look at the last 20 years of Putin's ever increasing anti-Western rhetoric.



You can't make a point against NATO without being invalidated by your own side.

LOL epic fail, moron, the Russian bases are inside Russia.

[Anonymous]

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Yeah well look at all the Russian military bases piled up facing NATO. And look at the last 20 years of Putin's ever increasing anti-Western rhetoric.

Because for the last twenty years the West sent Russia nothing but compliments?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:America’s post-9/11 wars have led to more than 4.5 million deaths, according to a major new report from the Costs of War Project at Brown University.
https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/files/cow/imce/papers/2023/Indirect%20Deaths.pdf

Roughly 1 million of these deaths came from direct combat in war zones across Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Somalia, and Yemen, while the remaining 3.5 million are “indirect deaths” that resulted from the conflicts’ “destruction of economies, public services, and the environment,” according to the report.

The sobering findings highlight the long-term effects of the Global War on Terror, which has been the deadliest fight of the 21st century so far. The death toll, which Brown researchers described as a “reasonable and conservative estimate,” rivals that of major post-WWII conflicts, including the wars in Korea and Vietnam.

Thanks for that fascinating, but ultimately useless post. This thread is about how Russia illegally invaded the sovereign nation of Ukraine and needs to leave. Your post was meant to derail the conversation and is a classic tool of disinformation. But then again you’re either paid to post it or are a bot.

Sadly, as you know, Russia is really weakened at this point and your futile attempts at even influencing this thread away from the topic at hand have failed as miserably as your attempts to take Bakhmut.

Because no one can disagree with you otherwise?

Because the odds are you are a bot or a paid shill to post those messages.

It’s obvious that Russia is the aggressor and should leave. You carrying water for Russia indicates you are sick. Again, the most likely connection is that you’re a bot or paid propagandist or you are a sociopath.

So are all these folks bots, sociopaths or paid propagandists?

An open letter calling for a swift diplomatic end to the war in Ukraine was published on Tuesday in the New York Times. The letter’s 14 signatories consisted mostly of former U.S. military officers and other national security officials, including Jack Matlock, Washington’s former ambassador to the Soviet Union; Ann Wright, a retired U.S. Army colonel and former diplomat; Matthew Hoh, a former Marine Corps officer and State Department official; and Ret. Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, who served as Secretary of State Colin Powell’s Chief of Staff.

What about Jeffrey Sachs?

Or Kissinger?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:America’s post-9/11 wars have led to more than 4.5 million deaths, according to a major new report from the Costs of War Project at Brown University.
https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/files/cow/imce/papers/2023/Indirect%20Deaths.pdf

Roughly 1 million of these deaths came from direct combat in war zones across Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Somalia, and Yemen, while the remaining 3.5 million are “indirect deaths” that resulted from the conflicts’ “destruction of economies, public services, and the environment,” according to the report.

The sobering findings highlight the long-term effects of the Global War on Terror, which has been the deadliest fight of the 21st century so far. The death toll, which Brown researchers described as a “reasonable and conservative estimate,” rivals that of major post-WWII conflicts, including the wars in Korea and Vietnam.

Thanks for that fascinating, but ultimately useless post. This thread is about how Russia illegally invaded the sovereign nation of Ukraine and needs to leave. Your post was meant to derail the conversation and is a classic tool of disinformation. But then again you’re either paid to post it or are a bot.

Sadly, as you know, Russia is really weakened at this point and your futile attempts at even influencing this thread away from the topic at hand have failed as miserably as your attempts to take Bakhmut.

Because no one can disagree with you otherwise?

Because the odds are you are a bot or a paid shill to post those messages.

It’s obvious that Russia is the aggressor and should leave. You carrying water for Russia indicates you are sick. Again, the most likely connection is that you’re a bot or paid propagandist or you are a sociopath.

This is how the rootless-cosmopolitans try to emotionally manipulate you into doing their bidding. They badger you until you give in, then they laugh at you behind your back. Whenever people give in to them, disaster surely follows.

Russia is not our enemy, not even a rival anymore.

According to Russia we are their enemy and they are going to destroy us.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J_NXpXIBy3A

Watch the primetime broadcasts on Rossiya 1 and other Russian channels, Solovyov, Simonyan and all of the others constantly propagandizing about how the west is the enemy, along with spreading all kinds of lies, like "bioweapons" and everything else.

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Anonymous wrote:I really want to see Ukraine start hitting western Russian cities. That would be fun to see Russians finally getting a taste of their own medicine.
The problem is Ukraine has to use its own weapons to blow up stuff in Russia so it will be a while for the fun to begin.

That wouldn't be fun at all. Notwithstanding Putin being a fascist aggressor who ordered an unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, those Russian cities are packed full of men, women, and children that I assume I would like very much if I ever got a chance to know them.

You are correct. The previous statement was no doubt written by someone who has never been endangered by any sort of war, and is not planning to go and help Ukraine fight.
I hear some of this sentiment from those who had left Ukraine many years ago (citing corruption, low quality of life, antisemitism and what not) but now are suddenly full of bloodthirst to those who have nothing to do with decision making and are suffering from those decisions (though yes to a much lesser extent than many Ukrainians).

DP what bullsh#t answer. Russians need to feel the full horror of what they have done in the Ukraine. It is past time to destroy Russians civilian infrastructure and target civilians through out Russia.

Should Americans feel what the Vietnamese or Japanese felt?

Lol, someone doesn't know anything about the Japanese in WW2 or the Viet Cong.

But enough about the distraction. What's the current line on the Pirozghin revelations? Was he trying to double cross Shiogu or the Ukrainians? There's been quite a few Colonels and above targeted over the last few days. Did your guy give up the coordinates?

Words words words.
You think it was ok for kids and old people in Hiroshima to die? It was all worth it, right?

Wow you guys work fast. I just heard about tonight's unstoppable hypersonic khinzal and came to laugh about how last century's patriot missile batteries shot them down again. But you all were on top of things and ready. Kudos to your work ethic. It must be so difficult to keep up appearances these days.

This is a very tired tactic of accusing anyone who doesn’t agree with you of being a troll
I simply don’t think that there is joy in children dying

You disagreeing is not an issue. The issue is that people like you constantly repeat Russian propaganda talking points. It's tiresome. You're not being a critical, original thinker. You're just parroting the lies the Russian government is spreading through social media.

But it's not like there's only one set of talking points in this space, is it? Ukraine has its own propaganda machine and it is churning out material nonstop. There's no much original thought there either. Everyone is parroting someone.

I understand that Ukraine is churning out propaganda, but I also understand, because I'm not an idiot, that there's no "two sides" to this conflict. Anyone who thinks there is, is falling for Russian propaganda that is intended to break the resolve of the US and our allies to support an (imperfect) democracy in a war of national survival. Maybe we've gotten used to ambiguous wars, because the US has fought in so many of them. The Russian invasion of Ukraine is not one of them.

I have to wonder what someone is thinking if they look at this conflict and conclude that somehow Ukraine is more than 5% responsible for the war. And that Russia has some legitimate points.

I mean there are volumes upon volumes of diplomatic writings and reports, produced by Americans, going back to the 90s, that say NATO's eastward push is a bad idea, flirting with Ukraine is a bad idea, red line blah blah. Prior to the invasion, it wasn't even remotely controversial. But now people behave like this never existed.

Next, you're going to bring up the nonsense about how the US promised Russia they wouldn't expand NATO east.

The reason countries want to join NATO is because they know if they don't, what happened to Ukraine could happen to them. There's a reason Russia invaded Ukraine and not Estonia.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:America’s post-9/11 wars have led to more than 4.5 million deaths, according to a major new report from the Costs of War Project at Brown University.
https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/files/cow/imce/papers/2023/Indirect%20Deaths.pdf

Roughly 1 million of these deaths came from direct combat in war zones across Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Somalia, and Yemen, while the remaining 3.5 million are “indirect deaths” that resulted from the conflicts’ “destruction of economies, public services, and the environment,” according to the report.

The sobering findings highlight the long-term effects of the Global War on Terror, which has been the deadliest fight of the 21st century so far. The death toll, which Brown researchers described as a “reasonable and conservative estimate,” rivals that of major post-WWII conflicts, including the wars in Korea and Vietnam.

Thanks for that fascinating, but ultimately useless post. This thread is about how Russia illegally invaded the sovereign nation of Ukraine and needs to leave. Your post was meant to derail the conversation and is a classic tool of disinformation. But then again you’re either paid to post it or are a bot.

Sadly, as you know, Russia is really weakened at this point and your futile attempts at even influencing this thread away from the topic at hand have failed as miserably as your attempts to take Bakhmut.

Because no one can disagree with you otherwise?

Because the odds are you are a bot or a paid shill to post those messages.

It’s obvious that Russia is the aggressor and should leave. You carrying water for Russia indicates you are sick. Again, the most likely connection is that you’re a bot or paid propagandist or you are a sociopath.

So are all these folks bots, sociopaths or paid propagandists?

An open letter calling for a swift diplomatic end to the war in Ukraine was published on Tuesday in the New York Times. The letter’s 14 signatories consisted mostly of former U.S. military officers and other national security officials, including Jack Matlock, Washington’s former ambassador to the Soviet Union; Ann Wright, a retired U.S. Army colonel and former diplomat; Matthew Hoh, a former Marine Corps officer and State Department official; and Ret. Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, who served as Secretary of State Colin Powell’s Chief of Staff.

What about Jeffrey Sachs?

Or Kissinger?

Most of those people you're citing like Matlock are doddering 90 year olds (even the youngest are in their late 70s) and haven't been involved in foreign policy for decades.

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Interesting you chose to include the word “Goyim”. Russia was using the false claim that Ukraine was filled with Nazis, as a pretense to invade and “denazify” the country. Why did you use goyim in your post? It’s an obviously falsehood that Ukraine had a Nazi problem, but I’m very curious as to how that word ended up in your bot post. I mean it’s fascinating the see real propaganda in real time. It’s incredible how sophisticated the internet has become that in probably conversing with a bot spewing Russian bs.

It was only after this war started that Ukraine removed some Nazi imagery. The Azov Battalion is a primary issue with regard to neo-Nazis.
Russia was using it as an excuse, but there is a significant pro-Nazi contingent in Ukraine.

Let's not forget the history of cheerful collaboration during the real Nazi occupation! That, too, became unfit to print.

Keep deflecting. People can see right through you.