DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney

[Anonymous]

DeSantis will be gone in less than 4 years. If he announces he’s running for president, it will be less than that. The legislature might change the resign to run law to make him happy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:New headline:

Disney is Hammering DiSantis

I thought republicans were against politically motivated criminal investigations. Strange

Disney is responding by investing $17B more into the state that is going after them. Way to teach DeSantis a lesson. If they really wanted to push back, they would start seeking bids for another east coast location and they would move every job not tied to the park out of Disney. Instead, they're rolling over

I think you're missing the context. Iger is saying they plan to invest $17B into the state, but the anti-business policies of DeSantis threaten that investment.

Exactly. Disney always plays the long game.

If they pull up out of Florida, DeSantis says "good riddance to bad rubbish" and references The Gays etc if he refers to them again at all. And voters have short memories.

But when they stay in Florida, and they invest in Florida (actually, more than double down on investing), then Disney has a lever by which to complain about DeSantis. They can highlight how hard he is for making them do business -- yeah, those guys, the ones that just doubled-down on Florida. Carping about The Gays has much less weight against that, and it stays fresh in the minds of voters.

DeSantis poked the Mouse. Disney doesn't want to win a pissing fight. They want him to lose his job and never get it back.

That level seems to be working real well for them. All of those politicians they have spent years cultivating voted to strip Reedy Creek with out a second thought. They'll expand in Florida because they know the park prints money and they really don't care about the politics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New headline:

Disney is Hammering DiSantis

I thought republicans were against politically motivated criminal investigations. Strange

Disney is responding by investing $17B more into the state that is going after them. Way to teach DeSantis a lesson. If they really wanted to push back, they would start seeking bids for another east coast location and they would move every job not tied to the park out of Disney. Instead, they're rolling over

I think you're missing the context. Iger is saying they plan to invest $17B into the state, but the anti-business policies of DeSantis threaten that investment.

Exactly. Disney always plays the long game.

If they pull up out of Florida, DeSantis says "good riddance to bad rubbish" and references The Gays etc if he refers to them again at all. And voters have short memories.

But when they stay in Florida, and they invest in Florida (actually, more than double down on investing), then Disney has a lever by which to complain about DeSantis. They can highlight how hard he is for making them do business -- yeah, those guys, the ones that just doubled-down on Florida. Carping about The Gays has much less weight against that, and it stays fresh in the minds of voters.

DeSantis poked the Mouse. Disney doesn't want to win a pissing fight. They want him to lose his job and never get it back.

That level seems to be working real well for them. All of those politicians they have spent years cultivating voted to strip Reedy Creek with out a second thought. They'll expand in Florida because they know the park prints money and they really don't care about the politics.

Right. That was soooo effective, wasn't it?

Disney doesn't give a rat's patoot whether you understand them to be winning. They just make sure they win.

Good luck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New headline:

Disney is Hammering DiSantis

I thought republicans were against politically motivated criminal investigations. Strange

Disney is responding by investing $17B more into the state that is going after them. Way to teach DeSantis a lesson. If they really wanted to push back, they would start seeking bids for another east coast location and they would move every job not tied to the park out of Disney. Instead, they're rolling over

I think you're missing the context. Iger is saying they plan to invest $17B into the state, but the anti-business policies of DeSantis threaten that investment.

Exactly. Disney always plays the long game.

If they pull up out of Florida, DeSantis says "good riddance to bad rubbish" and references The Gays etc if he refers to them again at all. And voters have short memories.

But when they stay in Florida, and they invest in Florida (actually, more than double down on investing), then Disney has a lever by which to complain about DeSantis. They can highlight how hard he is for making them do business -- yeah, those guys, the ones that just doubled-down on Florida. Carping about The Gays has much less weight against that, and it stays fresh in the minds of voters.

DeSantis poked the Mouse. Disney doesn't want to win a pissing fight. They want him to lose his job and never get it back.

That level seems to be working real well for them. All of those politicians they have spent years cultivating voted to strip Reedy Creek with out a second thought. They'll expand in Florida because they know the park prints money and they really don't care about the politics.

You seem to be a bit behind on the news if you think DeSantis stripped Disney of anything.

[Anonymous]

What’s the definition of insanity again?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New headline:

Disney is Hammering DiSantis

I thought republicans were against politically motivated criminal investigations. Strange

Disney is responding by investing $17B more into the state that is going after them. Way to teach DeSantis a lesson. If they really wanted to push back, they would start seeking bids for another east coast location and they would move every job not tied to the park out of Disney. Instead, they're rolling over

I think you're missing the context. Iger is saying they plan to invest $17B into the state, but the anti-business policies of DeSantis threaten that investment.

Exactly. Disney always plays the long game.

If they pull up out of Florida, DeSantis says "good riddance to bad rubbish" and references The Gays etc if he refers to them again at all. And voters have short memories.

But when they stay in Florida, and they invest in Florida (actually, more than double down on investing), then Disney has a lever by which to complain about DeSantis. They can highlight how hard he is for making them do business -- yeah, those guys, the ones that just doubled-down on Florida. Carping about The Gays has much less weight against that, and it stays fresh in the minds of voters.

DeSantis poked the Mouse. Disney doesn't want to win a pissing fight. They want him to lose his job and never get it back.

I'm curious whether Universal Studios would be more than happy to occupy any vacuum that Disney might create....

https://www.thestreet.com/travel/universal-studios-closing-worst-ride-disney-should-be-worried?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO&yptr=yahoo

While Disney has recently added a number of rides to all four of its Florida theme parks, it currently has no new major attractions planned (or at least hasn't shared those plans). The company still has work to do to complete its remodel of Epcot, but the openings of "Tron Lightcycle/Run" at Magic Kingdom and "Guardians of the Galaxy: Cosmic Rewind" at Epcot are the last two big additions to Disney World which have been shared with the public.

That could be a major problem for the company as Epic Universe will introduce Universal's Nintendo attractions to Florida and will include another "Wizarding World," among many other major attractions. Adding a big-name property at IoA would further tip the balance from Disney to Comcast.

[Anonymous]

I guess he’s waiting to get slapped with a 1A infringement suit. Disney has been trying to wait him out.

Also, I’m not sure how the legislation is going to work out with the home rule amendment in the Florida constitution.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

I am not sure why a state prison is an own as a neighbor to Disney. I mean, it will have security and stuff, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not sure why a state prison is an own as a neighbor to Disney. I mean, it will have security and stuff, right?

He was obviously joking. I hope we don't have to pretend this is a serious comment and listen to people argue the merits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New headline:

Disney is Hammering DiSantis

I thought republicans were against politically motivated criminal investigations. Strange

Disney is responding by investing $17B more into the state that is going after them. Way to teach DeSantis a lesson. If they really wanted to push back, they would start seeking bids for another east coast location and they would move every job not tied to the park out of Disney. Instead, they're rolling over

I think you're missing the context. Iger is saying they plan to invest $17B into the state, but the anti-business policies of DeSantis threaten that investment.

Exactly. Disney always plays the long game.

If they pull up out of Florida, DeSantis says "good riddance to bad rubbish" and references The Gays etc if he refers to them again at all. And voters have short memories.

But when they stay in Florida, and they invest in Florida (actually, more than double down on investing), then Disney has a lever by which to complain about DeSantis. They can highlight how hard he is for making them do business -- yeah, those guys, the ones that just doubled-down on Florida. Carping about The Gays has much less weight against that, and it stays fresh in the minds of voters.

DeSantis poked the Mouse. Disney doesn't want to win a pissing fight. They want him to lose his job and never get it back.

I'm curious whether Universal Studios would be more than happy to occupy any vacuum that Disney might create....

https://www.thestreet.com/travel/universal-studios-closing-worst-ride-disney-should-be-worried?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO&yptr=yahoo

While Disney has recently added a number of rides to all four of its Florida theme parks, it currently has no new major attractions planned (or at least hasn't shared those plans). The company still has work to do to complete its remodel of Epcot, but the openings of "Tron Lightcycle/Run" at Magic Kingdom and "Guardians of the Galaxy: Cosmic Rewind" at Epcot are the last two big additions to Disney World which have been shared with the public.

That could be a major problem for the company as Epic Universe will introduce Universal's Nintendo attractions to Florida and will include another "Wizarding World," among many other major attractions. Adding a big-name property at IoA would further tip the balance from Disney to Comcast.

I suspect that Universal has a much bigger play in this issue than is openly discussed. DeSantis speaks in code when he is talking about an even playing field-- but Universal Studios is the only real contender. And you're right that Universal is massively expanding-- I don't know how Disney will compete once Epic Universe, the massive need park, is built in 2025. Disney decided to invest in streaming as a top priority and failed to maintain its parks to its usual standards, didn't invest in new attractions. And jacked up prices. On its face, this seems like a sensible business strategy since they don't make any money on park tix. But I think it's a harbinger for future problems as Universal rapidly expands and Disney continues with the same lame offerings at extortionate prices (and subpar food and hotels compared to Universal). It doesn't make sense for Disney to get political favors when Universal is growing and bringing new jobs to the state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New headline:

Disney is Hammering DiSantis

I thought republicans were against politically motivated criminal investigations. Strange

Disney is responding by investing $17B more into the state that is going after them. Way to teach DeSantis a lesson. If they really wanted to push back, they would start seeking bids for another east coast location and they would move every job not tied to the park out of Disney. Instead, they're rolling over

I think you're missing the context. Iger is saying they plan to invest $17B into the state, but the anti-business policies of DeSantis threaten that investment.

Exactly. Disney always plays the long game.

If they pull up out of Florida, DeSantis says "good riddance to bad rubbish" and references The Gays etc if he refers to them again at all. And voters have short memories.

But when they stay in Florida, and they invest in Florida (actually, more than double down on investing), then Disney has a lever by which to complain about DeSantis. They can highlight how hard he is for making them do business -- yeah, those guys, the ones that just doubled-down on Florida. Carping about The Gays has much less weight against that, and it stays fresh in the minds of voters.

DeSantis poked the Mouse. Disney doesn't want to win a pissing fight. They want him to lose his job and never get it back.

I'm curious whether Universal Studios would be more than happy to occupy any vacuum that Disney might create....

https://www.thestreet.com/travel/universal-studios-closing-worst-ride-disney-should-be-worried?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO&yptr=yahoo

While Disney has recently added a number of rides to all four of its Florida theme parks, it currently has no new major attractions planned (or at least hasn't shared those plans). The company still has work to do to complete its remodel of Epcot, but the openings of "Tron Lightcycle/Run" at Magic Kingdom and "Guardians of the Galaxy: Cosmic Rewind" at Epcot are the last two big additions to Disney World which have been shared with the public.

That could be a major problem for the company as Epic Universe will introduce Universal's Nintendo attractions to Florida and will include another "Wizarding World," among many other major attractions. Adding a big-name property at IoA would further tip the balance from Disney to Comcast.

I suspect that Universal has a much bigger play in this issue than is openly discussed. DeSantis speaks in code when he is talking about an even playing field-- but Universal Studios is the only real contender. And you're right that Universal is massively expanding-- I don't know how Disney will compete once Epic Universe, the massive need park, is built in 2025. Disney decided to invest in streaming as a top priority and failed to maintain its parks to its usual standards, didn't invest in new attractions. And jacked up prices. On its face, this seems like a sensible business strategy since they don't make any money on park tix. But I think it's a harbinger for future problems as Universal rapidly expands and Disney continues with the same lame offerings at extortionate prices (and subpar food and hotels compared to Universal). It doesn't make sense for Disney to get political favors when Universal is growing and bringing new jobs to the state.

Lol What a load of crap. Universal has revenues of $5.1 billion. Disney Parks and Resorts has revenues of $16.6 billion. NBCUniversal $158 billion with a global brand of 689 vs Disney $343 billions with a global brand of 13. No one is making solo trips to Universal.

So what you are really saying is DeSantis and the republicans are picking winners in the private sector by the use of force of government? Great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What’s the definition of insanity again?

Doesn’t this violate Article 1 of the Constitution as it relates prohibition of bills of attainder?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New headline:

Disney is Hammering DiSantis

I thought republicans were against politically motivated criminal investigations. Strange

Disney is responding by investing $17B more into the state that is going after them. Way to teach DeSantis a lesson. If they really wanted to push back, they would start seeking bids for another east coast location and they would move every job not tied to the park out of Disney. Instead, they're rolling over

I think you're missing the context. Iger is saying they plan to invest $17B into the state, but the anti-business policies of DeSantis threaten that investment.

Exactly. Disney always plays the long game.

If they pull up out of Florida, DeSantis says "good riddance to bad rubbish" and references The Gays etc if he refers to them again at all. And voters have short memories.

But when they stay in Florida, and they invest in Florida (actually, more than double down on investing), then Disney has a lever by which to complain about DeSantis. They can highlight how hard he is for making them do business -- yeah, those guys, the ones that just doubled-down on Florida. Carping about The Gays has much less weight against that, and it stays fresh in the minds of voters.

DeSantis poked the Mouse. Disney doesn't want to win a pissing fight. They want him to lose his job and never get it back.

I'm curious whether Universal Studios would be more than happy to occupy any vacuum that Disney might create....

https://www.thestreet.com/travel/universal-studios-closing-worst-ride-disney-should-be-worried?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO&yptr=yahoo

While Disney has recently added a number of rides to all four of its Florida theme parks, it currently has no new major attractions planned (or at least hasn't shared those plans). The company still has work to do to complete its remodel of Epcot, but the openings of "Tron Lightcycle/Run" at Magic Kingdom and "Guardians of the Galaxy: Cosmic Rewind" at Epcot are the last two big additions to Disney World which have been shared with the public.

That could be a major problem for the company as Epic Universe will introduce Universal's Nintendo attractions to Florida and will include another "Wizarding World," among many other major attractions. Adding a big-name property at IoA would further tip the balance from Disney to Comcast.

I suspect that Universal has a much bigger play in this issue than is openly discussed. DeSantis speaks in code when he is talking about an even playing field-- but Universal Studios is the only real contender. And you're right that Universal is massively expanding-- I don't know how Disney will compete once Epic Universe, the massive need park, is built in 2025. Disney decided to invest in streaming as a top priority and failed to maintain its parks to its usual standards, didn't invest in new attractions. And jacked up prices. On its face, this seems like a sensible business strategy since they don't make any money on park tix. But I think it's a harbinger for future problems as Universal rapidly expands and Disney continues with the same lame offerings at extortionate prices (and subpar food and hotels compared to Universal). It doesn't make sense for Disney to get political favors when Universal is growing and bringing new jobs to the state.

Iger announced a $17B investment into the parks over the next 10 years. I think they’ll be just fine. Universal wouldn’t be there without Disney.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What’s the definition of insanity again?

Doesn’t this violate Article 1 of the Constitution as it relates prohibition of bills of attainder?

He fails in court all the time. This will not survive a court challenge. He’s just trying to soothe his bruised ego.