ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Anonymous wrote:If they are smart, ECNL will take advantage of that opportunity for its players and clubs.

ECNL admins already thinks they are the smartest and overall greatest people to walk the earth. They will make the change with everyone else because in their eyes they are the kings of this youth soccer world.

They don’t care about trapped players or anyone outside their bottom line.

The logic you had above shows you are a low IQ, middle age insecure bold man. Your kid will get bumped soon. You will know it in 2 weeks.

ECNL will do what they want. But they won’t change to SY until 26

I predict they will allow three trapped players to play down to compete against MLS biobanding. GA will do biobanding this fall as well.

GA doesn’t need bio banding because they generally play through high school season.

The uq5-u19 ages do not play during the high school season in California.

You sure about that? Here's LA Surf's schedule/link, as an example:

https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/36330/schedules?team=2430008

Games in Sept, Oct, Nov, Dec, Mar, Apr, and May. Is their HS season Jan-Feb?

High school season is November to Late February. Most girls join in December after showcases if they have them.

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Anonymous wrote:If they are smart, ECNL will take advantage of that opportunity for its players and clubs.

ECNL admins already thinks they are the smartest and overall greatest people to walk the earth. They will make the change with everyone else because in their eyes they are the kings of this youth soccer world.

They don’t care about trapped players or anyone outside their bottom line.

The logic you had above shows you are a low IQ, middle age insecure bold man. Your kid will get bumped soon. You will know it in 2 weeks.

ECNL will do what they want. But they won’t change to SY until 26

I predict they will allow three trapped players to play down to compete against MLS biobanding. GA will do biobanding this fall as well.

GA doesn’t need bio banding because they generally play through high school season.

The uq5-u19 ages do not play during the high school season in California.

You sure about that? Here's LA Surf's schedule/link, as an example:

https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/36330/schedules?team=2430008

Games in Sept, Oct, Nov, Dec, Mar, Apr, and May. Is their HS season Jan-Feb?

Yes its a winter HS sport. Stop talking about things you know nothing about

I just asked the question. No need to be a jackass about it.

You sure about that?

Should I have phrased it like this instead: "Excuse me fine sir, but are you sure about that?"

Intent is everything. You know nothing about HS soccer in CA so don't comment on it. Ignorance is bliss

You must be a real joy to be around.

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GA might allow biobanding concept next year. They used to have a late bloomer that they are more than likely bringing back.

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Anonymous wrote:Wagers on whether ecnl will allow a few trapped players across all age groups to play SY next year? Anyone?

Not happening. All changes will be implemented in 2 years.

Even with a hard cutoff on 26/27, your Q1/Q2 bench players will be removed this fall to make room for Q3/Q4.

You make it sound like there is this huge untapped reserve of kid soccer players. Newsflash: it’s the same kids that will be spread across the teams. Shifting the age cutoff by 6 months will not change rosters very much. A few adds/subtracts here and there which will net out to mostly nothing.

Low IQ. If as you said, this change will not cause 6000 most nonsense posts among insecure parents. And you are one of them.

I think people really underestimate how much this will change the roster dynamics

On competitive and established top national teams it will not change anything significantly. Coaches and players are always aware of the few players (from other top teams in the area) that could potentially change anything if they could be won over or poached. At this level everybody knows who all these players are in the age group and their currency.

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Even with a hard cutoff on 26/27, your Q1/Q2 bench players will be removed this fall to make room for Q3/Q4.

If all things are equal between an ECNL Q1 and Q4 and one stays and one goes, the smart coaches and directors are developing the Q4 and sending the Q1 to regional league where they will eventually finish their career.

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Anonymous wrote:Even with a hard cutoff on 26/27, your Q1/Q2 bench players will be removed this fall to make room for Q3/Q4.

If all things are equal between an ECNL Q1 and Q4 and one stays and one goes, the smart coaches and directors are developing the Q4 and sending the Q1 to regional league where they will eventually finish their career.

Will they though? Why would they swap a Q1 bench player for a Q4 bench player in 25/26 for a team in an age group that kid won't even be playing in when 26/27 comes along.

My kid is a 14 pre-ecnl right now, top player of their clubs second 9v9 team, but a December birthday. I can't see coaches next year moving her up to the top of the 2014 team just to develop her more with girls who will end up going to ECNL together in 26/27 where as mine will I assume not play ECNL that year, but instead will just repeat another pre-ecnl year.

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Q4‘s are not getting moved up until the official age change, but your kid will be the number one to take over a Q one spot on the top team for sure

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Anonymous wrote:Q4‘s are not getting moved up until the official age change, but your kid will be the number one to take over a Q one spot on the top team for sure

More like swapping q4s from one age with q4s 12-months younger. After the big shift (this year or next), everyone will be saying this was NBD.

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Anonymous wrote:Even with a hard cutoff on 26/27, your Q1/Q2 bench players will be removed this fall to make room for Q3/Q4.

If all things are equal between an ECNL Q1 and Q4 and one stays and one goes, the smart coaches and directors are developing the Q4 and sending the Q1 to regional league where they will eventually finish their career.

Will they though? Why would they swap a Q1 bench player for a Q4 bench player in 25/26 for a team in an age group that kid won't even be playing in when 26/27 comes along.

My kid is a 14 pre-ecnl right now, top player of their clubs second 9v9 team, but a December birthday. I can't see coaches next year moving her up to the top of the 2014 team just to develop her more with girls who will end up going to ECNL together in 26/27 where as mine will I assume not play ECNL that year, but instead will just repeat another pre-ecnl year.

Sounds like Loudoun as they like to market their second team as Pre-ECNL but plays in NCSL. There is not such thing as Pre-ECNL second team. Nevertheless, if you can continue to play at a higher level then I would until you need to level up. Might make sense for second team player to level up if cant make first team, otherwise should continue to play with year older grade level if you are getting the touches.

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Anonymous wrote:Even with a hard cutoff on 26/27, your Q1/Q2 bench players will be removed this fall to make room for Q3/Q4.

If all things are equal between an ECNL Q1 and Q4 and one stays and one goes, the smart coaches and directors are developing the Q4 and sending the Q1 to regional league where they will eventually finish their career.

Will they though? Why would they swap a Q1 bench player for a Q4 bench player in 25/26 for a team in an age group that kid won't even be playing in when 26/27 comes along.

My kid is a 14 pre-ecnl right now, top player of their clubs second 9v9 team, but a December birthday. I can't see coaches next year moving her up to the top of the 2014 team just to develop her more with girls who will end up going to ECNL together in 26/27 where as mine will I assume not play ECNL that year, but instead will just repeat another pre-ecnl year.

Sounds like Loudoun as they like to market their second team as Pre-ECNL but plays in NCSL. There is not such thing as Pre-ECNL second team. Nevertheless, if you can continue to play at a higher level then I would until you need to level up. Might make sense for second team player to level up if cant make first team, otherwise should continue to play with year older grade level if you are getting the touches.

I think I sort of disagree with this, because when the kids are playing 9v9 still and clubs are running with 2 "pre-ecnl" teams of like 22-24 kids total. That whole bunch really is close to only one ECNL team, so 2 pre-ecnl teams isn't crazy. I've seen clubs run like 5 though, and thats insane.

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Anonymous wrote:Even with a hard cutoff on 26/27, your Q1/Q2 bench players will be removed this fall to make room for Q3/Q4.

If all things are equal between an ECNL Q1 and Q4 and one stays and one goes, the smart coaches and directors are developing the Q4 and sending the Q1 to regional league where they will eventually finish their career.

Will they though? Why would they swap a Q1 bench player for a Q4 bench player in 25/26 for a team in an age group that kid won't even be playing in when 26/27 comes along.

My kid is a 14 pre-ecnl right now, top player of their clubs second 9v9 team, but a December birthday. I can't see coaches next year moving her up to the top of the 2014 team just to develop her more with girls who will end up going to ECNL together in 26/27 where as mine will I assume not play ECNL that year, but instead will just repeat another pre-ecnl year.

Sounds like Loudoun as they like to market their second team as Pre-ECNL but plays in NCSL. There is not such thing as Pre-ECNL second team. Nevertheless, if you can continue to play at a higher level then I would until you need to level up. Might make sense for second team player to level up if cant make first team, otherwise should continue to play with year older grade level if you are getting the touches.

I think I sort of disagree with this, because when the kids are playing 9v9 still and clubs are running with 2 "pre-ecnl" teams of like 22-24 kids total. That whole bunch really is close to only one ECNL team, so 2 pre-ecnl teams isn't crazy. I've seen clubs run like 5 though, and thats insane.

one issue, they don’t play in pre ecnl league. It’s just marketing. Second team is in ncsl playing against second teams, 2015s top teams, etc. Loudounds second team is playing equivalent teams in tourneys. It’s marketing. Just like pre ga2.

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Anonymous wrote:Even with a hard cutoff on 26/27, your Q1/Q2 bench players will be removed this fall to make room for Q3/Q4.

If all things are equal between an ECNL Q1 and Q4 and one stays and one goes, the smart coaches and directors are developing the Q4 and sending the Q1 to regional league where they will eventually finish their career.

Will they though? Why would they swap a Q1 bench player for a Q4 bench player in 25/26 for a team in an age group that kid won't even be playing in when 26/27 comes along.

My kid is a 14 pre-ecnl right now, top player of their clubs second 9v9 team, but a December birthday. I can't see coaches next year moving her up to the top of the 2014 team just to develop her more with girls who will end up going to ECNL together in 26/27 where as mine will I assume not play ECNL that year, but instead will just repeat another pre-ecnl year.

Sounds like Loudoun as they like to market their second team as Pre-ECNL but plays in NCSL. There is not such thing as Pre-ECNL second team. Nevertheless, if you can continue to play at a higher level then I would until you need to level up. Might make sense for second team player to level up if cant make first team, otherwise should continue to play with year older grade level if you are getting the touches.

I think I sort of disagree with this, because when the kids are playing 9v9 still and clubs are running with 2 "pre-ecnl" teams of like 22-24 kids total. That whole bunch really is close to only one ECNL team, so 2 pre-ecnl teams isn't crazy. I've seen clubs run like 5 though, and thats insane.

If you are already on a second team, often your best chance for promotion is at another club vs. your own club. The exception being when field size adjusts where clubs will promote some AND then you want to make sure you're getting good signals from the coach for the new team otherwise you'll be told a song and dance about getting more playing time but potentially stuck on the second team.

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Anonymous wrote:Q4‘s are not getting moved up until the official age change, but your kid will be the number one to take over a Q one spot on the top team for sure

How? Players on top ECNL teams are usually playing and training with older players 1-2 years above them. Many play up on teams by a year or 2 already. So how is a (Q4) player a mere few months older only going to make any difference to such players?

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Q4s currently training and playing on a top ECNL team will absolutely make an impact when SY happens and they get moved to play with their school grade. Unless they continue to play with their current BY group. We aren’t talking about Q4 on a second team.

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Anonymous wrote:Q4s currently training and playing on a top ECNL team will absolutely make an impact when SY happens and they get moved to play with their school grade. Unless they continue to play with their current BY group. We aren’t talking about Q4 on a second team.

Yes, perhaps in that very narrow scenario but those are few in number. Also, those are the same very competitive players who choose to play up as they understand where and how they are developing the most. Coaches on these teams are also not encouraging these strong players to play down.