ECNL moving to school year part 2
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Anonymous
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In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 9th grade (Freshman year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.
2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall not Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct. Still 100% correct. This is for next fall when SY starts. 11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior 11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Junior 11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Sophmore 11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Freshman 11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ 8th grade 11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 7th grade 9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 6th grade 9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 5th grade 9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 4th grade 7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 3rd grade 7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 2nd grade 4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 1st grade 4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten Using U14 as an example what this is saying is... 1. They play 11v11 2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1 3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012 4. Players are most likely in 8th grade |
Anonymous
I agree. Watching this from the sidelines. How can you argue against math and calendars. Its wild watching the responses. Crazy level of delusion. |
Anonymous
I dont know what to say either. I guess if you dont understand math you can argue against it all day long. Doesn't change anything though. |
Anonymous
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Again, I am posting this and will not be bullied into not posting because someone doesn't like the post.
This is still contains correct calculations, many kids will play with other kids in a different grade. Totally in the rules. 2011s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophomores and lower next fall not Juniors. Still 100% correct. This is for next fall when SY starts. 11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007-7/31 ≈ Senior + lower 11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009-7/31 ≈ Senior " " 11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010-7/31 ≈ Junior " " 11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011-7/31 ≈ Sophomore " " 11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012-7/31 ≈ Freshman " " 11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013-7/31 ≈ 8th grade " " 9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014-7/31 ≈ 7th grade " " 9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015-7/31 ≈ 6th grade " " 9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016-7/31 ≈ 5th grade " " 7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017-7/31 ≈ 4rd grade " " 7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018-7/31 ≈ 3nd grade " " 4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019-7/31 ≈ 2nd grade " " 4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2019-7/31 ≈ 1st grade " " 4v4 = U5 = ≤ 8/1/2020-7/31 ≈ Kindergarten " " Using U13 as an example what this is saying is... 1. They play 11v11 2. Players turn 13 after Aug 1 3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2013 4. Players are most likely in 8th grade or lower |
Anonymous
Dude all your grades are off by one. |
Anonymous
It doesn't need to ... The word "may" isn't limiting. |
Anonymous
Kinda like Aug. grade guy who keeps posting despite the large evidence to the contrary about what's actually happening in most of the country. |
Anonymous
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In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 9th grade (Freshman year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.
2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall not Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct. Still 100% correct. This is for next fall when SY starts. 11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior 11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Junior 11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Sophmore 11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Freshman 11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ 8th grade 11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 7th grade 9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 6th grade 9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 5th grade 9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 4th grade 7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 3rd grade 7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 2nd grade 4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 1st grade 4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten Using U14 as an example what this is saying is... 1. They play 11v11 2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1 3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012 4. Players are most likely in 8th grade |
Anonymous
False. They are correct. It's almost like you ignored the and lower part so you can try to force grade year on certain kids but not others to help your specific situation. |
Anonymous
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Again, I am posting this and will not be bullied into not posting because someone doesn't like the post.
This is still contains correct calculations for grades, many kids will play with other kids in a different grade. Totally in the rules. 2011s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophomores and lower next fall not Juniors. Still 100% correct. This is for next fall when SY starts. 11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007-7/31 ≈ Senior + lower 11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009-7/31 ≈ Senior " " 11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010-7/31 ≈ Junior " " 11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011-7/31 ≈ Sophomore " " 11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012-7/31 ≈ Freshman " " 11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013-7/31 ≈ 8th grade " " 9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014-7/31 ≈ 7th grade " " 9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015-7/31 ≈ 6th grade " " 9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016-7/31 ≈ 5th grade " " 7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017-7/31 ≈ 4rd grade " " 7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018-7/31 ≈ 3nd grade " " 4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019-7/31 ≈ 2nd grade " " 4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2019-7/31 ≈ 1st grade " " 4v4 = U5 = ≤ 8/1/2020-7/31 ≈ Kindergarten " " Using U13 as an example what this is saying is... 1. They play 11v11 2. Players turn 13 after Aug 1 3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2013 4. Players are most likely in 8th grade or lower |
Anonymous
I dont think you know what the word "evidence" means. Much like you dont understand how math works. |
Anonymous
This whole conversation is grade/age guy's nightmere, because it should really end the conversation: So, this ECNL director from Michigan basically says they’re going to do what makes the most sense for their individual players (Case-by-case). Play them on age and showcase them on grade, if/when, that makes sense. He does say college coaches want to see all players of a class together but also notes what league, who the opponents are also vital in player evaluation. He says some of their best players they’ve had, including a YNT now a GK at Penn State, were late developers. Also, this club plays year round, so hasn't had to deal with trap players. The age change is discussed between roughly 14-20 minutes of this interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdLkj6MmgIA Highlighting key parts: I Hate Soccer Guy: I get DMs all the time about, well, my daughter's an August birthday, but she's graduating and whatever. And like, what are you doing? Okay, let's say a kid falls on the junior team. … Junior class team, but she's graduating this year with the seniors or whatever. … I know a lot of Flash girls are just going to stay in their grad year. What are you guys going to do? ECNL dude: So we actually we spent a lot of time talking to a lot of the top clubs, a lot of like we talked to players, people in the federation, we talked to people in college like what would be the best thing to do because at some point as well you have to rip the band-aid off. It's like if you keep everything as is, you just push the problem down the road. So for us, every single kid is going to where their birth date aligns. Okay? And that includes like no exceptions. So now if we find a situation now where we need to move a kid because they're just unchallenged, right? Then you can move them from there. Yeah. Right. But let's align it all. We'll rip the band-aid off. Right. And now we can truly see things. And not only that, but you look at like if I'm a if I'm a senior and I have the opportunity to play U17 again, I'm doing it a 100 out of 100 times because there's six playoff spots. There's an environment where you're competing for longer, right? right? You got the opportunity to do things and the motivation level is really high. The senior year always curtails unfortunately. Yeah. Um you know with kids. So you know for me it's a lot of people fall into that and as well you get a great benefit of if you're uncommitted you now get to get a redo on some of the exposure that you know you maybe wouldn't have before if you were on a senior team, right? So there's there's a lot of benefits. So for us, you know, we're in a situation where everyone's going into that and then we can move things off of that if it's the right thing. Now then you also have to look at it. Okay, if a player goes into an age younger but their grade level is here, how do you help them with showcasing? So for us, we have made sure that in our kind of roster assembly, we created opportunities so that you know at ECNL showcases or Jefferson Cup or something like that, we have the ability to bring this player with us. So now they still get the best of both worlds, right? If you can develop inside this environment, we can also then showcase you with your grade level, but also if you're maybe a little bit of a late developer, like for example, your typical recruitment, your elite players are getting watched a lot, their sophomore years. Your next tier is mainly the junior year, but let's say you make it to junior year and you've really developed, but now you're on a mainly sophomore team. You get the opportunity to now get re-seen, right, by a lot of those schools that maybe aren't watching junior classes anymore. I Hate Soccer Guy: I've never thought of it like that. ECNL dude: Yeah. Okay. So, there's a lot of benefits to it. That's a positive of being playing down again. Like another positive because the younger parts of the older grade are typically going to be your late developers, right? So, it gives you the opportunity now to really help them because they, you know, whether it's physical maturation, mental, whatever it might be. It's ultimately up to the kid, but they can showcase because we've had a ton of kids that have come in, you know, and been late developers. They've been on second and third teams and they've risen and they've gone, you know, RL to ECNL to power four, right? And that's, you know, one of our one of our goalkeepers is one of my favorite stories of all time. She's a sophomore at Penn State right now. … So you know, yeah, those late developers are there. And that's the thing is you have to have ways to help them, right? And this kind of provides a natural way. If you are a younger part of your grade, you now have a second opportunity that maybe you wouldn't have got before. |
Anonymous
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In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 9th grade (Freshman year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.
2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall not Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct. Still 100% correct. This is for next fall when SY starts. 11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior 11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Junior 11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Sophmore 11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Freshman 11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ 8th grade 11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 7th grade 9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 6th grade 9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 5th grade 9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 4th grade 7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 3rd grade 7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 2nd grade 4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 1st grade 4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten Using U14 as an example what this is saying is... 1. They play 11v11 2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1 3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012 4. Players are most likely in 8th grade |
Anonymous
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Many kids will play with other kids in different grades in each age group.
2011s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophomores and lower next fall not Juniors. Still 100% correct. This is for next fall when SY starts. 11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007-7/31 ≈ Senior + lower 11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009-7/31 ≈ Senior " " 11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010-7/31 ≈ Junior " " 11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011-7/31 ≈ Sophomore " " 11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012-7/31 ≈ Freshman " " 11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013-7/31 ≈ 8th grade " " 9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014-7/31 ≈ 7th grade " " 9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015-7/31 ≈ 6th grade " " 9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016-7/31 ≈ 5th grade " " 7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017-7/31 ≈ 4rd grade " " 7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018-7/31 ≈ 3nd grade " " 4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019-7/31 ≈ 2nd grade " " 4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2019-7/31 ≈ 1st grade " " 4v4 = U5 = ≤ 8/1/2020-7/31 ≈ Kindergarten " " Using U13 as an example what this is saying is... 1. They play 11v11 2. Players turn 13 after Aug 1 3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2013 4. Players are most likely in 8th grade or lower |
Anonymous
Not sure why a discussion exists considering nobody has found a DMV club willing to let players just choose to play up and that above discussion is definitely the final word. |