Why are people so upset about Common Core?

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I certainly appreciate Glenn's point of view (and love a good scavenger hunt), however do you think at some point he'll have a "reveal" show where he presents the results of all his research and ties it together? As a big-name journalist, he certainly has more access to more resources, and it can be difficult for a lay person to piece all of these tidbits together and figure out what it all means. This is simply too important to not put out there, and you know that no other broadcaster will take it on!

Oh boy! Something to look forward to!

What about a "Follow the Money" contest? Compete with Glenn to see how well YOU follow the money! Viewers can put together their stories to be presented on the show, and Glenn can present his own research to see who does best. Winner gets.....private school tuition.

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I certainly appreciate Glenn's point of view (and love a good scavenger hunt), however do you think at some point he'll have a "reveal" show where he presents the results of all his research and ties it together? As a big-name journalist, he certainly has more access to more resources, and it can be difficult for a lay person to piece all of these tidbits together and figure out what it all means. This is simply too important to not put out there, and you know that no other broadcaster will take it on!

Oh boy! Something to look forward to!

What about a "Follow the Money" contest? Compete with Glenn to see how well YOU follow the money! Viewers can put together their stories to be presented on the show, and Glenn can present his own research to see who does best. Winner gets.....private school tuition.

"Constitutional school tuition", please.

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Sure, but that's why you link to the correct, authoritative source when you are having an argument with someone who says "Common Core is making my kids have to study Mesopotamia in 1st grade". You don't link to a Glenn Beck blog saying "Common Core is evil and the downfall of society" because he isn't an authoritative source. You link to the Common Core State Standards for Mesopotamia knowledge in 1st grade (there aren't any) and you link to the New York State website source of the Mesopotamia objectives (and that shows they come from Core Knowledge and are additional, not part of Common Core, and thus are things New York State itself added.

The problem is, a lot of people just believe whatever the see on Facebook or read on Twitter and don't go back to original sources.

But people who link to Glenn Beck believe that he is the authoritative source, and all of the stuff you link to is misinformation, because "follow the money".

He has spent a lot of time and money on the research. I know him to be a fair man, who does not expect blind followers. He encourages people to check for themselves. Part of thinking for yourself is to follow the money.

I certainly appreciate Glenn's point of view (and love a good scavenger hunt), however do you think at some point he'll have a "reveal" show where he presents the results of all his research and ties it together? As a big-name journalist, he certainly has more access to more resources, and it can be difficult for a lay person to piece all of these tidbits together and figure out what it all means. This is simply too important to not put out there, and you know that no other broadcaster will take it on!

He actually is not a journalist - that's what The Blaze is for. He is the entrepreneur who put it all together, i.e. the head of a multi-armed corporation that has a news arm, a film arm, a radio arm, a charity arm, etc.

There is no 'big reveal'. The answers are there already - he's gone over it time and again.

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More on untested wholesale changes. One of the things I learned in grad school is that new standards require testing and study. This has not been tried.

Precisely.

[Anonymous]

http://washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2014/05/04/today-was-the-first-day-i-was-ever-ashamed-to-be-a-teacher/?tid=HP_more

I'm not sure this woman has ever said something positive about CC.

Also no mention of how NY has additional standards, and how the implementation could be a factor. Just more CC bashing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:http://washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2014/05/04/today-was-the-first-day-i-was-ever-ashamed-to-be-a-teacher/?tid=HP_more

I'm not sure this woman has ever said something positive about CC.

Also no mention of how NY has additional standards, and how the implementation could be a factor. Just more CC bashing.

Can you explain why teachers don't know the difference?

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Also no mention of how NY has additional standards, and how the implementation could be a factor. Just more CC bashing.

Well, I cannot address the additional standards factor, but the problem with Common Core is the way it is implemented. This is aggravated by the demands of Race to the Top.

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I'm not sure this woman has ever said something positive about CC.

Also no mention of how NY has additional standards, and how the implementation could be a factor. Just more CC bashing.

Can you explain why teachers don't know the difference?

That's not what I said. I'm in no position to generalize what teachers know and don't know.

His letter was actually pretty specific to NY and called out NY administrators only. But Valerie Strauss could have provided come context. The byline on the front page says he is "speaking out on Common Core." He was really speaking out on the NY test.

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Anonymous wrote:http://washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2014/05/04/today-was-the-first-day-i-was-ever-ashamed-to-be-a-teacher/?tid=HP_more

I'm not sure this woman has ever said something positive about CC.

Also no mention of how NY has additional standards, and how the implementation could be a factor. Just more CC bashing.

Can you explain why teachers don't know the difference?

That's not what I said. I'm in no position to generalize what teachers know and don't know.

His letter was actually pretty specific to NY and called out NY administrators only. But Valerie Strauss could have provided come context. The byline on the front page says he is "speaking out on Common Core." He was really speaking out on the NY test.

He specifically said Common Core in his letter. If you follow the link, there is another letter from other teachers that also specifically reference Common Core. So again, why do the NY teachers not know of the additional NY standards? Or more telling, what do they know that we don't?

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Anonymous wrote:http://washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2014/05/04/today-was-the-first-day-i-was-ever-ashamed-to-be-a-teacher/?tid=HP_more

I'm not sure this woman has ever said something positive about CC.

Also no mention of how NY has additional standards, and how the implementation could be a factor. Just more CC bashing.

Can you explain why teachers don't know the difference?

That's not what I said. I'm in no position to generalize what teachers know and don't know.

His letter was actually pretty specific to NY and called out NY administrators only. But Valerie Strauss could have provided come context. The byline on the front page says he is "speaking out on Common Core." He was really speaking out on the NY test.

He specifically said Common Core in his letter. If you follow the link, there is another letter from other teachers that also specifically reference Common Core. So again, why do the NY teachers not know of the additional NY standards? Or more telling, what do they know that we don't?

I think they just think what they are doing IS Common Core, that the test the kids are taking is the "Common Core" test. They don't realize that their state has gone above and beyond the requirements of Common Core State Standards.

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Anonymous wrote:http://washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2014/05/04/today-was-the-first-day-i-was-ever-ashamed-to-be-a-teacher/?tid=HP_more

I'm not sure this woman has ever said something positive about CC.

Also no mention of how NY has additional standards, and how the implementation could be a factor. Just more CC bashing.

Can you explain why teachers don't know the difference?

That's not what I said. I'm in no position to generalize what teachers know and don't know.

His letter was actually pretty specific to NY and called out NY administrators only. But Valerie Strauss could have provided come context. The byline on the front page says he is "speaking out on Common Core." He was really speaking out on the NY test.

He specifically said Common Core in his letter. If you follow the link, there is another letter from other teachers that also specifically reference Common Core. So again, why do the NY teachers not know of the additional NY standards? Or more telling, what do they know that we don't?

ALso -- there might not be additional standards in NYS for math. I don't know -- the NYS math standards seem to be just Common Core standards.

But the NYS test seems to be really crappy. My kids took the PARCC math test (the field test) and they said it seemed pretty normal, just like any test, only on a computer.

[Anonymous]

http://teachersletterstobillgates.com/2014/05/04/common-core-tests-educational-malpractice-for-students-with-special-needs/



Common Core Tests: Educational Malpractice for Students with Special Needs

In about one week I, and my colleagues, will be asked to participate in educational malpractice. This malpractice will be in the form of administering the state mandated standardized tests. I have read many critiques about these new Common Core aligned tests. But no criticism I have read has touched on an issue of such fundamental fairness and decency that I must speak of it.

These tests discriminate against students with disabilities. They do this is many ways, but the method I wish to address today, is that they require us to give tests that cover material the student has not yet been taught. So imagine if you had taken French all year and were eager to demonstrate how much you had learned and felt ready for the French test. But the test you were handed instead was in Spanish. Your face flushes, you feel like you are about to throw up, but instead you shakily ask the teacher and she says, “well I know you have not learned this yet, but just do the best you can.”

[Anonymous]

The above is why I despise the Common Core standards. And you can't hide behind, "Oh, it's just New York!"

Special needs kids get screwed over royally by CC.

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The above is why I despise the Common Core standards. And you can't hide behind, "Oh, it's just New York!"

Special needs kids get screwed over royally by CC.

You despise the Common Core standards because there are things on the standardized tests aligned to the Common Core standards that an individual child or class might not (yet) have been taught, and but the child(ren) have to take the test anyway?

Do you think that this is a problem unique to the Common Core standards? It's not. It's true for any standardized test, anywhere, ever.

[Anonymous]

You despise the Common Core standards because there are things on the standardized tests aligned to the Common Core standards that an individual child or class might not (yet) have been taught, and but the child(ren) have to take the test anyway?

Do you think that this is a problem unique to the Common Core standards? It's not. It's true for any standardized test, anywhere, ever.

I think the teacher's point was that these kids had not been taught much of anything on the test. Would you like to sit for a test in a language you do not speak?