Why are people so upset about Common Core?

[Anonymous]

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And lobbying is completely unprecedented in the history of educational publishing companies. Before the Common Core, they never lobbied anybody. Not anywhere, not once.

I said it wasn't new. However, there is a huge increase in demand and money will be spent. Pay attention.

You (or somebody) keep saying that. I actually am paying attention. I still support the Common Core standards.

[Anonymous]

https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000018389

Houghton Mifflin--another huge expenditure in 2011---wonder why?

[Anonymous]

http://education-curriculum-reform-government-schools.org/w/2013/03/common-core-corruption-pearson-publishing-investigated-for-payoffs/

Wholesale changes in education invite wholesale corruption. These companies are writing the curriculum whether you believe it or not.

[Anonymous]

http://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/childrens/childrens-industry-news/article/53002-what-common-core-means-for-publishers.html

More on untested wholesale changes. One of the things I learned in grad school is that new standards require testing and study. This has not been tried.

[Anonymous]

You (or somebody) keep saying that. I actually am paying attention. I still support the Common Core standards

Do you work at the department? Or, maybe one of the publishers?

[Anonymous]

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You (or somebody) keep saying that. I actually am paying attention. I still support the Common Core standards

Do you work at the department? Or, maybe one of the publishers?

No. Do you wear a tin-foil hat?

If you can't imagine that there are people who have the same facts you have and nonetheless sincerely disagree with you, that is a problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:http://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/childrens/childrens-industry-news/article/53002-what-common-core-means-for-publishers.html

More on untested wholesale changes. One of the things I learned in grad school is that new standards require testing and study. This has not been tried.

If there is testing, our kids are guinea pigs! That is bad!

If there is no testing, our kids are guinea pigs! That is bad!

[Anonymous]

If there is testing, our kids are guinea pigs! That is bad!

If there is no testing, our kids are guinea pigs! That is bad!

No. There should be proper procedures and pilot programs. Not just a bunch of people who get together with a well intended "good idea".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Sure, but that's why you link to the correct, authoritative source when you are having an argument with someone who says "Common Core is making my kids have to study Mesopotamia in 1st grade". You don't link to a Glenn Beck blog saying "Common Core is evil and the downfall of society" because he isn't an authoritative source. You link to the Common Core State Standards for Mesopotamia knowledge in 1st grade (there aren't any) and you link to the New York State website source of the Mesopotamia objectives (and that shows they come from Core Knowledge and are additional, not part of Common Core, and thus are things New York State itself added.

The problem is, a lot of people just believe whatever the see on Facebook or read on Twitter and don't go back to original sources.

But people who link to Glenn Beck believe that he is the authoritative source, and all of the stuff you link to is misinformation, because "follow the money".

He has spent a lot of time and money on the research. I know him to be a fair man, who does not expect blind followers. He encourages people to check for themselves. Part of thinking for yourself is to follow the money.

I certainly appreciate Glenn's point of view (and love a good scavenger hunt), however do you think at some point he'll have a "reveal" show where he presents the results of all his research and ties it together? As a big-name journalist, he certainly has more access to more resources, and it can be difficult for a lay person to piece all of these tidbits together and figure out what it all means. This is simply too important to not put out there, and you know that no other broadcaster will take it on!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Suggest you investigate where the money is going.

Ok, this is what I've figured out so far:
Taxpayers, to:
State government, to:
Publishing company, to:
????

This is where I get stuck. Where does the money go after that?

I think Glenn is suggesting that it's lining pockets of supporters. Who these supporters are- that is the big question. But I'm pretty sure they're some big names.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

If there is testing, our kids are guinea pigs! That is bad!

If there is no testing, our kids are guinea pigs! That is bad!

No. There should be proper procedures and pilot programs. Not just a bunch of people who get together with a well intended "good idea".

I can't speak for every district in the country, but MCPS has definitely had procedures, and pilot programs in the roll out of the new standards, new curriculum, and new testing.

[Anonymous]

I can't speak for every district in the country, but MCPS has definitely had procedures, and pilot programs in the roll out of the new standards, new curriculum, and new testing.

That is a step in the right direction. Unfortunately, it appears that a lot of systems are jumping on the carousel horse on the merry-go-round before they do their homework.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I can't speak for every district in the country, but MCPS has definitely had procedures, and pilot programs in the roll out of the new standards, new curriculum, and new testing.

That is a step in the right direction. Unfortunately, it appears that a lot of systems are jumping on the carousel horse on the merry-go-round before they do their homework.

I'm a big Common Core fan, but this is absolutely true. Many states and LEA's seemed to have started the roll out process late, and have had significant implementation failures become of this.

[Anonymous]

I'm a big Common Core fan, but this is absolutely true. Many states and LEA's seemed to have started the roll out process late, and have had significant implementation failures become of this.

That is why I do not like "Race to the Top". People are scrambling to get the money before they have thought out the process. It should not be a race.

[Anonymous]

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I certainly appreciate Glenn's point of view (and love a good scavenger hunt), however do you think at some point he'll have a "reveal" show where he presents the results of all his research and ties it together? As a big-name journalist, he certainly has more access to more resources, and it can be difficult for a lay person to piece all of these tidbits together and figure out what it all means. This is simply too important to not put out there, and you know that no other broadcaster will take it on!

Oh boy! Something to look forward to!