Active shooter on Brown campus

[Anonymous]

Just read a report that he might have gone into the wrong room. instead of a review session for econ. he may have intended to shoot up a similar room having a physics final.

Also, read that the guy had been in the storage room since an hour after killing the professor from MIT--in other words, he had been dead a while.

Would be interesting to know what he has been doing since 2017 when he received the green card.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hope they are being very careful opening his locked storage locker…

This guy was a former graduate student in physics at Brown…

(He killed himself in the storage locker next to the one he rented.)

I would screen for explosives and nuclear materials before opening…

He was a former college classmate of leading MIT fusion professor.

My guess is they know what they’re doing

Well, given that the danger is over, that's a safe bet. But as far as having confidence...

What about Kash Patel gave you that idea? How many perpetrators of mass shootings escape and then go on to murder someone in a different state two days later?

I was thinking that too. If Trump hadn’t gotten rid of competent administrators at the FBI and conducted a reign of terror on those who remain, would they have been faster/more adept at responding to the Brown shooting and prevented the killing of the MIt professor. We’ll never know but all of the idiots who say that there’s no need for federal workers are finding out what it means to purge the competent people from govt.

There have been serial killers on the run for years before being caught. Many homicides in cities across America go unsolved. I agree that Kash is a clown but I don't think we can say definitively that the fact this guy was not caught in 2 seconds means the FBI did bad work in this case.

No way to say it definitively, agree. But also no way to say definitively: They know what they are doing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So do Portuguese people have to leave now?

No, but the Trump admin just suspended the visa program which he came in on.

President Donald Trump suspended the green card lottery program on Thursday that allowed the suspect in the Brown University and MIT shootings to come to the United States.

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said in a post on the social platform X that at Trump’s direction she is ordering the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services to pause the program. “This heinous individual should never have been allowed in our country,” she said.

https://apple.news/Af9ItKSjkQYmRiLz2-MsbCA

Why did Trump let him in and give him a green card? That's what I want to know.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hope they are being very careful opening his locked storage locker…

This guy was a former graduate student in physics at Brown…

(He killed himself in the storage locker next to the one he rented.)

I would screen for explosives and nuclear materials before opening…

He was a former college classmate of leading MIT fusion professor.

My guess is they know what they’re doing

Well, given that the danger is over, that's a safe bet. But as far as having confidence...

What about Kash Patel gave you that idea? How many perpetrators of mass shootings escape and then go on to murder someone in a different state two days later?

I was thinking that too. If Trump hadn’t gotten rid of competent administrators at the FBI and conducted a reign of terror on those who remain, would they have been faster/more adept at responding to the Brown shooting and prevented the killing of the MIt professor. We’ll never know but all of the idiots who say that there’s no need for federal workers are finding out what it means to purge the competent people from govt.

There have been serial killers on the run for years before being caught. Many homicides in cities across America go unsolved. I agree that Kash is a clown but I don't think we can say definitively that the fact this guy was not caught in 2 seconds means the FBI did bad work in this case.

No way to say it definitively, agree. But also no way to say definitively: They know what they are doing.

Precisely my point. This thread is 66 pages of people confidently stating things they think they know. Nobody knows anything.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So do Portuguese people have to leave now?

No, but the Trump admin just suspended the visa program which he came in on.

President Donald Trump suspended the green card lottery program on Thursday that allowed the suspect in the Brown University and MIT shootings to come to the United States.

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said in a post on the social platform X that at Trump’s direction she is ordering the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services to pause the program. “This heinous individual should never have been allowed in our country,” she said.

https://apple.news/Af9ItKSjkQYmRiLz2-MsbCA

Why did Trump let him in and give him a green card? That's what I want to know.

Trump tried to stop the program in 2017. It was the lottery program.

[Anonymous]

Hope the media get on this soon.

Was the guy back in Portugal until 2017 or hanging around here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hope the media get on this soon.

Was the guy back in Portugal until 2017 or hanging around here?

He was probably here because he had legal status in the US. These are the facts I could find on his immigration status:

*He initially entered the United States in August 2000 on an F-1 student visa to attend Brown University.
*He later obtained a Diversity Immigrant Visa (through the diversity visa lottery program) in 2017 (when Trump was president).
*This led to him being granted lawful permanent resident status (green card) in April or September 2017 (sources vary slightly on the exact month).

[Anonymous]

And why do we make it so easy for a person here on a green card to get guns? Why do we still have so many loopholes? Why aren't we making it mandatory to track and validate every gun transfer?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope they are being very careful opening his locked storage locker…

This guy was a former graduate student in physics at Brown…

(He killed himself in the storage locker next to the one he rented.)

I would screen for explosives and nuclear materials before opening…

He was a former college classmate of leading MIT fusion professor.

My guess is they know what they’re doing

Well, given that the danger is over, that's a safe bet. But as far as having confidence...

What about Kash Patel gave you that idea? How many perpetrators of mass shootings escape and then go on to murder someone in a different state two days later?

I was thinking that too. If Trump hadn’t gotten rid of competent administrators at the FBI and conducted a reign of terror on those who remain, would they have been faster/more adept at responding to the Brown shooting and prevented the killing of the MIt professor. We’ll never know but all of the idiots who say that there’s no need for federal workers are finding out what it means to purge the competent people from govt.

There have been serial killers on the run for years before being caught. Many homicides in cities across America go unsolved. I agree that Kash is a clown but I don't think we can say definitively that the fact this guy was not caught in 2 seconds means the FBI did bad work in this case.

No way to say it definitively, agree. But also no way to say definitively: They know what they are doing.

Precisely my point. This thread is 66 pages of people confidently stating things they think they know. Nobody knows anything.

My point is that we are answering a poster above.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The guy who said early on he was probably a former Brown science or engineering student was right!!!

Sounds like the Econ class was an unfortunate mistaken target.

I am glad he killed himself. It is unfortunate he succeeded in killing his former classmate in Boston (Brookline)!

They were econ students but their session was in a science building where the killer had studied decades ago. Wrong place, wrong time.

It seems he put some effort into planning the crime so shy didn't he confirm he had the " right" class and why jarm students anyway they were not even born when he attended Brown.

Because irrational people don’t make rational decisions! This guy was definitely off and should’ve never had access to guns, but hey it’s America.

And what objective data, prior to this, was there that should have prevent him getting a firearm? Someone being “off” isn’t a reason. Him being let go from his position isn’t a reason either. He doesn’t seem to have been committed to a mental institution. Should we say anyone with depression, anxiety, adhd, autism spectrum, or socially awkward cannot own a firearm?

That’s why the 2A needs to be appealed. A machine whose sole purpose is to kill should not be sold to the public.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The guy who said early on he was probably a former Brown science or engineering student was right!!!

Sounds like the Econ class was an unfortunate mistaken target.

I am glad he killed himself. It is unfortunate he succeeded in killing his former classmate in Boston (Brookline)!

They were econ students but their session was in a science building where the killer had studied decades ago. Wrong place, wrong time.

It seems he put some effort into planning the crime so shy didn't he confirm he had the " right" class and why jarm students anyway they were not even born when he attended Brown.

Because irrational people don’t make rational decisions! This guy was definitely off and should’ve never had access to guns, but hey it’s America.

And what objective data, prior to this, was there that should have prevent him getting a firearm? Someone being “off” isn’t a reason. Him being let go from his position isn’t a reason either. He doesn’t seem to have been committed to a mental institution. Should we say anyone with depression, anxiety, adhd, autism spectrum, or socially awkward cannot own a firearm?

Yes, yes, it should be much harder for people to get firearms. How much more proof do you need?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just read a report that he might have gone into the wrong room. instead of a review session for econ. he may have intended to shoot up a similar room having a physics final.

Also, read that the guy had been in the storage room since an hour after killing the professor from MIT--in other words, he had been dead a while.

Would be interesting to know what he has been doing since 2017 when he received the green card.

I teach at a university. When you need a classroom for a review session or other event at a time that you don't normally teach, you make the request through a centralized system which assigns you an empty room at the time you requested. So this was just a horribly unlucky thing for this econ class to be in the engineering building for their review session. It obviously would have been equally tragic for a classroom of engineering or physics students to have been the victims.

As someone in academia this feels like a familiar story with the worst possible outcome. There are always people at the fringes of academia who couldn't make it through a program, or made it through but couldn't get a good job, due to mental illness. They either don't want to or can't do anything else because of their difficulty with executive functioning and reading social cues/learning professional conduct. They see being an academic is a core part of their identity, and are very smart, but can't manage the non-academic skills required to be successful. Because academia is such an exploitative system, some of these people who manage to get a Master's degree will work for years as adjuncts or visiting professors because they are desperate and therefore willing to work for the low pay and lack of job security. It's not hard to see how someone with a tendency to externalize when they feel shame will blame others and want to exact revenge. Just a horrible story all around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The guy who said early on he was probably a former Brown science or engineering student was right!!!

Sounds like the Econ class was an unfortunate mistaken target.

I am glad he killed himself. It is unfortunate he succeeded in killing his former classmate in Boston (Brookline)!

They were econ students but their session was in a science building where the killer had studied decades ago. Wrong place, wrong time.

It seems he put some effort into planning the crime so shy didn't he confirm he had the " right" class and why jarm students anyway they were not even born when he attended Brown.

Because irrational people don’t make rational decisions! This guy was definitely off and should’ve never had access to guns, but hey it’s America.

And what objective data, prior to this, was there that should have prevent him getting a firearm? Someone being “off” isn’t a reason. Him being let go from his position isn’t a reason either. He doesn’t seem to have been committed to a mental institution. Should we say anyone with depression, anxiety, adhd, autism spectrum, or socially awkward cannot own a firearm?

Yes, yes, it should be much harder for people to get firearms. How much more proof do you need?

And how do you prove someone is off or awkward and shouldn’t own a firearm? There are many weirdo people with no documented diagnosis

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The guy who said early on he was probably a former Brown science or engineering student was right!!!

Sounds like the Econ class was an unfortunate mistaken target.

I am glad he killed himself. It is unfortunate he succeeded in killing his former classmate in Boston (Brookline)!

They were econ students but their session was in a science building where the killer had studied decades ago. Wrong place, wrong time.

It seems he put some effort into planning the crime so shy didn't he confirm he had the " right" class and why jarm students anyway they were not even born when he attended Brown.

Because irrational people don’t make rational decisions! This guy was definitely off and should’ve never had access to guns, but hey it’s America.

And what objective data, prior to this, was there that should have prevent him getting a firearm? Someone being “off” isn’t a reason. Him being let go from his position isn’t a reason either. He doesn’t seem to have been committed to a mental institution. Should we say anyone with depression, anxiety, adhd, autism spectrum, or socially awkward cannot own a firearm?

Yes, yes, it should be much harder for people to get firearms. How much more proof do you need?

And how do you prove someone is off or awkward and shouldn’t own a firearm? There are many weirdo people with no documented diagnosis

You don't get what we are saying. My right for my kids not to get shot Trump's your right to own a gun in every country in the world but the US. This isn't about socially awkward people not getting guns. MOST PEOPLE should not get guns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The guy who said early on he was probably a former Brown science or engineering student was right!!!

Sounds like the Econ class was an unfortunate mistaken target.

I am glad he killed himself. It is unfortunate he succeeded in killing his former classmate in Boston (Brookline)!

They were econ students but their session was in a science building where the killer had studied decades ago. Wrong place, wrong time.

It seems he put some effort into planning the crime so shy didn't he confirm he had the " right" class and why jarm students anyway they were not even born when he attended Brown.

Because irrational people don’t make rational decisions! This guy was definitely off and should’ve never had access to guns, but hey it’s America.

And what objective data, prior to this, was there that should have prevent him getting a firearm? Someone being “off” isn’t a reason. Him being let go from his position isn’t a reason either. He doesn’t seem to have been committed to a mental institution. Should we say anyone with depression, anxiety, adhd, autism spectrum, or socially awkward cannot own a firearm?

Yes, yes, it should be much harder for people to get firearms. How much more proof do you need?

And how do you prove someone is off or awkward and shouldn’t own a firearm? There are many weirdo people with no documented diagnosis

You don't get what we are saying. My right for my kids not to get shot Trump's your right to own a gun in every country in the world but the US. This isn't about socially awkward people not getting guns. MOST PEOPLE should not get guns.

stupid autocorrect:
*trumps (not Trump's)