Plane crash DCA?

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Anonymous wrote:The water is below freezing. A doctor said 30 minutes is longest they could last. I hope I am wrong.

You are wrong. The water is a few degrees above freezing. Otherwise, it would be ice. Doesn't matter though. They died during the tremendous acceleration forces in the collision.

It was stated at 30 degrees and you are calling the doctor wrong. I just posted what he said. But of course you would know better.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s zero reason for so many helicopters in DC, let alone “training flights.” They fly too low over residential areas and seem to just be doing it as a lark. They should train elsewhere.

Not so sure about the so called training.
I thought they delivered VIPs to CIA, no?

Yes, they dropped the VIP(s?) off at Langley and then a less experienced pilot took the controls for "training hours" for the flight back. They are very much trying to hide that the reason the helicopter was there at all was because some faux-VIP wanted to skip traffic.

If you know this, report it anonymously to the NTSB

It’s in the public flight record that the helicopter originated from the area near Langley.

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a97753,ae313d

Did the helicopter take off from a neighborhood in McLean because that is what the attachment shows? If so WTF, and clearly not an annual training like they are saying.

Yes. It took off from the backyard of a home owned by a Saudi National.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s zero reason for so many helicopters in DC, let alone “training flights.” They fly too low over residential areas and seem to just be doing it as a lark. They should train elsewhere.

Not so sure about the so called training.
I thought they delivered VIPs to CIA, no?

Yes, they dropped the VIP(s?) off at Langley and then a less experienced pilot took the controls for "training hours" for the flight back. They are very much trying to hide that the reason the helicopter was there at all was because some faux-VIP wanted to skip traffic.

If you know this, report it anonymously to the NTSB

Report it to journalists in print and TV media.

[Anonymous]

I called it right after the election:

Trump will blame everything bad that happens on Biden.

He'll get to do that for 2 years and then when the seats flip during the midterms and the Dems get power back, his excuse will flip to "I can't do anything b/c the Dems won't play ball. They won't work with me. Selfish people."

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Anonymous wrote:There is no need for a direct flight from
National to Wichita. That airport is too congested.

I feel awful for the poor ATCs

This flight was added in 2024 for, you guessed it, a congressperson from Kansas.

He seemed so proud to admit that.

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I’m so confused re DEI. Probably the ATC and the pilots were white? Had anyone said differently?

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Anonymous wrote:➡️ January 20: FAA director fired
➡️ January 21: Air Traffic Controller hiring frozen
➡️ January 22: Aviation Safety Advisory Committee disbanded
➡️ January 28: Buyout/retirement demand sent to existing employees
➡️ January 29: First American mid-air collision in 16 years

Making America Great Again!

So they sabotaged it? I doubt that very much. I have a higher opinion of FAA employees than you do.

Not sabotage. Stress.

Remember that one of Trump’s people said their goal was to “traumatize federal employees.”

Was this actually an ATC error? I thought it was mainly the helicopter error.

No one knows yet.

To me, it does look like some element of ATC error. It clearly was not communicating to both the helicopter and the airplane that they were headed straight for each other and need to take action.

I hope this is not the case, if so, air travel will be in question for a very long time in the future. I had a very unfortunate incident on a recent flight into BNA that left me with great pause in my mind about our current ATC and its’s standards. Prayers for the victims and their families, and for the country

Agree. Make no assumptions, no change course immediately was directed.

Well, Trump just said it's Biden's fault. What a "leader" he is.

neither had anything to do with this.

Do the investigation, find the errors, and make sure it doesn’t happen again.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s zero reason for so many helicopters in DC, let alone “training flights.” They fly too low over residential areas and seem to just be doing it as a lark. They should train elsewhere.

Not so sure about the so called training.
I thought they delivered VIPs to CIA, no?

Yes, they dropped the VIP(s?) off at Langley and then a less experienced pilot took the controls for "training hours" for the flight back. They are very much trying to hide that the reason the helicopter was there at all was because some faux-VIP wanted to skip traffic.

If you know this, report it anonymously to the NTSB

It’s in the public flight record that the helicopter originated from the area near Langley.

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a97753,ae313d

Did the helicopter take off from a neighborhood in McLean because that is what the attachment shows? If so WTF, and clearly not an annual training like they are saying.

Yes. It took off from the backyard of a home owned by a Saudi National.

I just saw this too. 811 Lawton Street. Does not seem like a training mission. At all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the Fairfax county property site, it looks like it might of taken off from here:

SAUDIA ARABIA ROYAL EMBASSY OF

811 LAWTON ST

Lol

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There’s zero reason for so many helicopters in DC, let alone “training flights.” They fly too low over residential areas and seem to just be doing it as a lark. They should train elsewhere.

Not so sure about the so called training.
I thought they delivered VIPs to CIA, no?

Yes, they dropped the VIP(s?) off at Langley and then a less experienced pilot took the controls for "training hours" for the flight back. They are very much trying to hide that the reason the helicopter was there at all was because some faux-VIP wanted to skip traffic.

If you know this, report it anonymously to the NTSB

Report it to journalists in print and TV media.

People in Loudoun have been reporting dangerous maneuvers by black hawk pilots for years. No one listened or cared and now look.

[Anonymous]

Totally inappropriate use of the press conference by every speaker so far.

If I was personally affected by this tragedy I would be LIVID.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the Fairfax county property site, it looks like it might of taken off from here:

SAUDIA ARABIA ROYAL EMBASSY OF

811 LAWTON ST

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1ideeh0/pat_25_the_helicopter_involved_in_the_recent/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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Anonymous wrote:➡️ January 20: FAA director fired
➡️ January 21: Air Traffic Controller hiring frozen
➡️ January 22: Aviation Safety Advisory Committee disbanded
➡️ January 28: Buyout/retirement demand sent to existing employees
➡️ January 29: First American mid-air collision in 16 years

Making America Great Again!

So they sabotaged it? I doubt that very much. I have a higher opinion of FAA employees than you do.

Not sabotage. Stress.

Remember that one of Trump’s people said their goal was to “traumatize federal employees.”

Was this actually an ATC error? I thought it was mainly the helicopter error.

No one knows yet.

To me, it does look like some element of ATC error. It clearly was not communicating to both the helicopter and the airplane that they were headed straight for each other and need to take action.

That’s not true, the tower clearly advised the helicopter about the traffic, which plane it was and where it was going. Then they confirm visual separation. Then they actually do see it and tell the helicopter to go behind the plane. I don’t think there’s any way from what we could hear that the tower would anticipate the helicopter flying into the plane, but obviously we have limited info. But the tower does contact the helicopter before the crash.

It’s also amazing how he stayed so calm and redirected the other planes, especially that American pilot who was kind of a d$& about it.

If this was a Who’s on First type of communication everyone was talking about different commercial jets. Sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I called it right after the election:

Trump will blame everything bad that happens on Biden.

He'll get to do that for 2 years and then when the seats flip during the midterms and the Dems get power back, his excuse will flip to "I can't do anything b/c the Dems won't play ball. They won't work with me. Selfish people."

4 sentences into his “condolence” speech, he blamed Obama.

[Anonymous]

Are you allowed to helicopter in and out of neighborhoods? What the hell