Hogan and the County Executives.

[Anonymous]

Does the governor communicate with any of the counties prior to making changes? We are over a year into the pandemic and for every press conference that the governor holds MoCo always says they are surprised and did not know a change was coming. Since I only pay attention to Montgomery county is this happening with all county executives? I know the governor and Mark E. don’t get along and there are a lot of little jobs back-and-forth but I’m curious if it happens statewide. Anyone know?

[Anonymous]

I don't know, but it is clear the County can never pass an opportunity to take a swipe at Hogan. It's a reflexive impulse at this point completely divorced from actual policy differences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't know, but it is clear the County can never pass an opportunity to take a swipe at Hogan. It's a reflexive impulse at this point completely divorced from actual policy differences.

Or, more likely, he's a typical Republican politician and will never pass up an opportunity to thumb his nose at Democrats. Hogan knows who butters his bread and it isn't MoCo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know, but it is clear the County can never pass an opportunity to take a swipe at Hogan. It's a reflexive impulse at this point completely divorced from actual policy differences.

Or, more likely, he's a typical Republican politician and will never pass up an opportunity to thumb his nose at Democrats. Hogan knows who butters his bread and it isn't MoCo.

But he by and large is not the one taking the swipes. My politics are probably closer to the County than to his, but I still find their interactions with Hogan to be unprofessional and counter productive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know, but it is clear the County can never pass an opportunity to take a swipe at Hogan. It's a reflexive impulse at this point completely divorced from actual policy differences.

Or, more likely, he's a typical Republican politician and will never pass up an opportunity to thumb his nose at Democrats. Hogan knows who butters his bread and it isn't MoCo.

Let’s be fair here: the jabs and swipes are coming from sides. The distain is both D and R and both sides are acting like spoiled politicians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know, but it is clear the County can never pass an opportunity to take a swipe at Hogan. It's a reflexive impulse at this point completely divorced from actual policy differences.

Or, more likely, he's a typical Republican politician and will never pass up an opportunity to thumb his nose at Democrats. Hogan knows who butters his bread and it isn't MoCo.

But he by and large is not the one taking the swipes. My politics are probably closer to the County than to his, but I still find their interactions with Hogan to be unprofessional and counter productive.

This. I think it has been a general attitude from Elrich and trickles down to his people throughout the pandemic. I guess we shouldn't expect more from a politician, but there's just so much blame the feds (when it was Trump) and blame the state for everything not going well and take credit for everything that is. The emails and newsletters he sends out are a blame game with no accountability. I was reading one of those earlier this year and made the decision I wouldn't vote for this guy again if he ran against a ham sandwich.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know, but it is clear the County can never pass an opportunity to take a swipe at Hogan. It's a reflexive impulse at this point completely divorced from actual policy differences.

Or, more likely, he's a typical Republican politician and will never pass up an opportunity to thumb his nose at Democrats. Hogan knows who butters his bread and it isn't MoCo.

But he by and large is not the one taking the swipes. My politics are probably closer to the County than to his, but I still find their interactions with Hogan to be unprofessional and counter productive.

This. I think it has been a general attitude from Elrich and trickles down to his people throughout the pandemic. I guess we shouldn't expect more from a politician, but there's just so much blame the feds (when it was Trump) and blame the state for everything not going well and take credit for everything that is. The emails and newsletters he sends out are a blame game with no accountability. I was reading one of those earlier this year and made the decision I wouldn't vote for this guy again if he ran against a ham sandwich.

+1
I'm a Democrat but this year has been an embarrassment for Elrich, and Hogan has proven to be much more of a pro who deserves his largely positive reputation. Elrich is a joke.

[Anonymous]

The general issue is that:
a) The MoCo way. They always want to develop their own metrics and procedures, instead of following the state.
b) MoCo leadership takes forever to make decisions.

Notice other counties aren't complaining about Hogan's announcement yesterday. Most of them just follow state guidelines. That's simple, it's developed by experts, and it makes it easy for citizens of MD to follow since it's state-wide. For example, MoCo's reopening is tied to vaccination rate. MD's is based on hospitalizations, new case rate, and positivity rate -- which by the way are the same metrics MoCo decided on when justifying closing schools and businesses.

Whenever Hogan releases an order, and note his latest was 7 pages, 2 pages being legal filler that override his previous orders, MoCo takes days or even a week or two to react to it. It's not a huge book -- it's a few pages. I read it in about 5 minutes.

I live in another county in MD and we just follow the state. So much easier.

Maybe when I go pick up my kids from in-person school (we've been open since mid-February), we'll stop by the library to browse and check out books (also open). Meanwhile in MoCo, the libraries still haven't finished a plan on how to reopen to the public.

Sure, you can say MoCo is big and it's hard to plan, but Fairfax County is about the same size and budget, and I can walk into their libraries. MoCo incompetence, in my eyes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The general issue is that:
a) The MoCo way. They always want to develop their own metrics and procedures, instead of following the state.
b) MoCo leadership takes forever to make decisions.

Notice other counties aren't complaining about Hogan's announcement yesterday. Most of them just follow state guidelines. That's simple, it's developed by experts, and it makes it easy for citizens of MD to follow since it's state-wide. For example, MoCo's reopening is tied to vaccination rate. MD's is based on hospitalizations, new case rate, and positivity rate -- which by the way are the same metrics MoCo decided on when justifying closing schools and businesses.

Whenever Hogan releases an order, and note his latest was 7 pages, 2 pages being legal filler that override his previous orders, MoCo takes days or even a week or two to react to it. It's not a huge book -- it's a few pages. I read it in about 5 minutes.

I live in another county in MD and we just follow the state. So much easier.

Maybe when I go pick up my kids from in-person school (we've been open since mid-February), we'll stop by the library to browse and check out books (also open). Meanwhile in MoCo, the libraries still haven't finished a plan on how to reopen to the public.

Sure, you can say MoCo is big and it's hard to plan, but Fairfax County is about the same size and budget, and I can walk into their libraries. MoCo incompetence, in my eyes.

Ironic, though, because Rs are more about local control and knowing what they need than Dems are.

[Anonymous]

I'm in Anne Arundel, (so Hogan's home county) and Pittman and Hogan clearly hate each other.
Pittman has said multiple times that Hogan doesn't let the county execs know what's coming when he makes a policy change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The general issue is that:
a) The MoCo way. They always want to develop their own metrics and procedures, instead of following the state.
b) MoCo leadership takes forever to make decisions.

Notice other counties aren't complaining about Hogan's announcement yesterday. Most of them just follow state guidelines. That's simple, it's developed by experts, and it makes it easy for citizens of MD to follow since it's state-wide. For example, MoCo's reopening is tied to vaccination rate. MD's is based on hospitalizations, new case rate, and positivity rate -- which by the way are the same metrics MoCo decided on when justifying closing schools and businesses.

Whenever Hogan releases an order, and note his latest was 7 pages, 2 pages being legal filler that override his previous orders, MoCo takes days or even a week or two to react to it. It's not a huge book -- it's a few pages. I read it in about 5 minutes.

I live in another county in MD and we just follow the state. So much easier.

Maybe when I go pick up my kids from in-person school (we've been open since mid-February), we'll stop by the library to browse and check out books (also open). Meanwhile in MoCo, the libraries still haven't finished a plan on how to reopen to the public.

Sure, you can say MoCo is big and it's hard to plan, but Fairfax County is about the same size and budget, and I can walk into their libraries. MoCo incompetence, in my eyes.

Ironic, though, because Rs are more about local control and knowing what they need than Dems are.

There is local control. The state sets restrictinos, and local counties can be more restrictive than they want but not less restrictive. (Like if state-wide restaurants can open to 50%, the county can and has made it 25%, but can't make it 75%).

I just think MoCo is overusing local control for every little thing, when there's no need to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know, but it is clear the County can never pass an opportunity to take a swipe at Hogan. It's a reflexive impulse at this point completely divorced from actual policy differences.

Or, more likely, he's a typical Republican politician and will never pass up an opportunity to thumb his nose at Democrats. Hogan knows who butters his bread and it isn't MoCo.

Let’s be fair here: the jabs and swipes are coming from sides. The distain is both D and R and both sides are acting like spoiled politicians.

+1. So sick of all of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The general issue is that:
a) The MoCo way. They always want to develop their own metrics and procedures, instead of following the state.
b) MoCo leadership takes forever to make decisions.

Notice other counties aren't complaining about Hogan's announcement yesterday. Most of them just follow state guidelines. That's simple, it's developed by experts, and it makes it easy for citizens of MD to follow since it's state-wide. For example, MoCo's reopening is tied to vaccination rate. MD's is based on hospitalizations, new case rate, and positivity rate -- which by the way are the same metrics MoCo decided on when justifying closing schools and businesses.

Whenever Hogan releases an order, and note his latest was 7 pages, 2 pages being legal filler that override his previous orders, MoCo takes days or even a week or two to react to it. It's not a huge book -- it's a few pages. I read it in about 5 minutes.

I live in another county in MD and we just follow the state. So much easier.

Maybe when I go pick up my kids from in-person school (we've been open since mid-February), we'll stop by the library to browse and check out books (also open). Meanwhile in MoCo, the libraries still haven't finished a plan on how to reopen to the public.

Sure, you can say MoCo is big and it's hard to plan, but Fairfax County is about the same size and budget, and I can walk into their libraries. MoCo incompetence, in my eyes.

Ironic, though, because Rs are more about local control and knowing what they need than Dems are.

There is local control. The state sets restrictinos, and local counties can be more restrictive than they want but not less restrictive. (Like if state-wide restaurants can open to 50%, the county can and has made it 25%, but can't make it 75%).

I just think MoCo is overusing local control for every little thing, when there's no need to.

This is what bothers me too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know, but it is clear the County can never pass an opportunity to take a swipe at Hogan. It's a reflexive impulse at this point completely divorced from actual policy differences.

Or, more likely, he's a typical Republican politician and will never pass up an opportunity to thumb his nose at Democrats. Hogan knows who butters his bread and it isn't MoCo.

But he by and large is not the one taking the swipes. My politics are probably closer to the County than to his, but I still find their interactions with Hogan to be unprofessional and counter productive.

This. I think it has been a general attitude from Elrich and trickles down to his people throughout the pandemic. I guess we shouldn't expect more from a politician, but there's just so much blame the feds (when it was Trump) and blame the state for everything not going well and take credit for everything that is. The emails and newsletters he sends out are a blame game with no accountability. I was reading one of those earlier this year and made the decision I wouldn't vote for this guy again if he ran against a ham sandwich.

+1
I'm a Democrat but this year has been an embarrassment for Elrich, and Hogan has proven to be much more of a pro who deserves his largely positive reputation. Elrich is a joke.

This Democrat likewise would not vote for Elrich for anything. MoCo and Maryland needs someone other than a TP type.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't know, but it is clear the County can never pass an opportunity to take a swipe at Hogan. It's a reflexive impulse at this point completely divorced from actual policy differences.

With Elrich this is completely true.