Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

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Anonymous wrote:Esra Hudson responds for Wilkie, asking Liman to strike the letter, saying its allegations are untrue, and reserving the right to seek sanctions. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.218.0.pdf

Hudson's letter also particularly notes that within minutes of the letter appearing on the docket, media outlets started reporting on it, including one 40+ paragraph story from the Daily Mail -- noting this trial by press was another reason to strike the letter.

She works for Manatt. Is she saying it implies Manatt involvement? B/c I don’t think BF says that. Maybe I’m missing something

Lively’s attorney Hudson noted in her letter motion to strike that within minutes after the letter that Baldoni’s lawyers, Freedman, wrote making the Swift allegations, a 40+ paragraph story on the material that was within Freedman’s letter was published by the Daily Mail.

She is hinting that Freedman must have leaked the story to the Daily Mail before filing his letter, because you can’t write 40+ paragraphs in 5 minutes, usually.

It's like 5 new paragraphs and the rest regurgitated background from previous articles.

You really think you could find the filing, write those new paragraphs, add it to the rest, and get it approved by your legal department in five minutes, with no advance warning? I do not but ymmv. (Isn't the Daily Mail Freedman's lead of choice?)

What’s the problem if he did? Only Blake is allowed to go to the press?

Pretty sure the problem is that Liman told them not to do that. You might be mad, still, about the NYT, but that ship has sailed and we are on The Good Ship Liman now.

Gotttlieb has had several press ops since then, including when he sent out the subsequently quashed subpoenas to the cell phone providers.

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Anonymous wrote:Just seeing this. What a crash out. So much for Taylor and Travis’s recent behavior and signals being “nothing.”

Blake and Ryan’s careers are over. My hunch is Ryan cuts bait by Christmas. Divorce. He’s always been a ruthless sociopathic striver.

Ironically, this headline is much more favorable to Lively than the Daily Mail or People mag headlines on their original stories.

But here's another turn: People now has a much more favorable story up top: "Blake Lively's Lawyer Denies She Threatened Taylor Swift, Calls Justin Baldoni's Team 'Completely Untethered from Reality'" https://people.com/blake-lively-lawyer-denies-claim-threatened-taylor-swift-11734946

And Daily Mail, amazingly, has placed this puff piece on Lively's mother that they published shortly before the Freedman bombshell at the top of their Showbiz page: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-14712103/Blake-Lively-mother-stunning-model.html

They did an update on the mom piece later in the day too. If you go to their Blake Lively coverage, the original story about the Freedman allegations is still #1, but if you just go to Showbiz, it's the mom story.

Interesting to me because we know how much effort goes into this on the part of the PR folks. I don't think any of that is accidental -- the initial headlines were very anti-Lively (except TMZ) but they've all rebalanced in the last couple hours, presumably as Blake's people have called in favors (or made threats! I don't know!).

This inside baseball tabloid trash breakdown and how much they continue to blow on PR doesn’t really matter. The crisis PR and strategy grifters are just stealing millions from them because it’s all futile. The masses, easily 90+ % of casual observers, know they’re both compulsive lying scammers and nothing will change anyone’s mind. It’s over. Blake and Ryan must be in denial and/or have a team of self-serving vultures around them who only seek to milk them while their ship sinks. Should have settled this months ago. It’s obviously getting worse for them and the number they’re going to have to wire grows by the day.

I actually give kudos to Blakes PR folks on this one. They can't have known this was coming, or had much warning, and they actually managed to reshape the narrative by a lot in the major outlets by dinner. My friend who I've been texting with about this case as a distraction from her chemo was not online this afternoon and by the time she checked in, the story was much more even than what I saw this afternoon as it broke. I was like "whoa this is terrible for Blake" and her response was "we'll see, seems like freedman is talking out of is a$$."

So I actually think this could backfire hugely for Baldoni if freedman doesn't have the goods here. We'll see!

This ineffective nonsense is not shaping or re-shaping anything. Everyone knows this is multi million PR, paid for planted stories, and bots. It’s not changing anyone’s minds, grifters are just bleeding Blake and Ryan’s bank accounts. Blake and Ryan should have written a very big check months ago and laid low.

Everyone on this thread knows that. "Everyone" does not know that. I feel way savvier about how these publications work after following this case but most people aren't following at that level. They'll read the headline, take it at face value, and move on. So yes, the the planted stories and the massaged headlines work. Most people are passing observers.

All the high traffic forums, TikTok, YouTube, etc. have all turned against Blake and Ryan. No amount of brigading and bots will fix this.

It is over.

Maybe a divorced Blake can go on Oprah in summer 2026 and cry about her depression causing her to make all this scheme up.

It’s actually Jennifer Hudson now. Blake can dance to a Taylor Swift song as she makes her way towards the stage. Iykyk

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How long before RR starts crying that his wife lied to him too?

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Anonymous wrote:How long before RR starts crying that his wife lied to him too?

Oh it’s coming. You know it.

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Anonymous wrote:Just seeing this. What a crash out. So much for Taylor and Travis’s recent behavior and signals being “nothing.”

Blake and Ryan’s careers are over. My hunch is Ryan cuts bait by Christmas. Divorce. He’s always been a ruthless sociopathic striver.

Ironically, this headline is much more favorable to Lively than the Daily Mail or People mag headlines on their original stories.

But here's another turn: People now has a much more favorable story up top: "Blake Lively's Lawyer Denies She Threatened Taylor Swift, Calls Justin Baldoni's Team 'Completely Untethered from Reality'" https://people.com/blake-lively-lawyer-denies-claim-threatened-taylor-swift-11734946

And Daily Mail, amazingly, has placed this puff piece on Lively's mother that they published shortly before the Freedman bombshell at the top of their Showbiz page: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-14712103/Blake-Lively-mother-stunning-model.html

They did an update on the mom piece later in the day too. If you go to their Blake Lively coverage, the original story about the Freedman allegations is still #1, but if you just go to Showbiz, it's the mom story.

Interesting to me because we know how much effort goes into this on the part of the PR folks. I don't think any of that is accidental -- the initial headlines were very anti-Lively (except TMZ) but they've all rebalanced in the last couple hours, presumably as Blake's people have called in favors (or made threats! I don't know!).

This inside baseball tabloid trash breakdown and how much they continue to blow on PR doesn’t really matter. The crisis PR and strategy grifters are just stealing millions from them because it’s all futile. The masses, easily 90+ % of casual observers, know they’re both compulsive lying scammers and nothing will change anyone’s mind. It’s over. Blake and Ryan must be in denial and/or have a team of self-serving vultures around them who only seek to milk them while their ship sinks. Should have settled this months ago. It’s obviously getting worse for them and the number they’re going to have to wire grows by the day.

I actually give kudos to Blakes PR folks on this one. They can't have known this was coming, or had much warning, and they actually managed to reshape the narrative by a lot in the major outlets by dinner. My friend who I've been texting with about this case as a distraction from her chemo was not online this afternoon and by the time she checked in, the story was much more even than what I saw this afternoon as it broke. I was like "whoa this is terrible for Blake" and her response was "we'll see, seems like freedman is talking out of is a$$."

So I actually think this could backfire hugely for Baldoni if freedman doesn't have the goods here. We'll see!

This ineffective nonsense is not shaping or re-shaping anything. Everyone knows this is multi million PR, paid for planted stories, and bots. It’s not changing anyone’s minds, grifters are just bleeding Blake and Ryan’s bank accounts. Blake and Ryan should have written a very big check months ago and laid low.

Everyone on this thread knows that. "Everyone" does not know that. I feel way savvier about how these publications work after following this case but most people aren't following at that level. They'll read the headline, take it at face value, and move on. So yes, the the planted stories and the massaged headlines work. Most people are passing observers.

All the high traffic forums, TikTok, YouTube, etc. have all turned against Blake and Ryan. No amount of brigading and bots will fix this.

It is over.

Maybe a divorced Blake can go on Oprah in summer 2026 and cry about her depression causing her to make all this scheme up.

Not quite depression but that PR lady Molly McPherson gave her read on this hooe thing months ago and it's basically that Reynolds has been the man behind the curtain on most of this and Blake can come out OK but it will take a lot of time, a divorce, and basically saying she was in an extremely controlling relationship. Which might even be the truth? Who knows. Buy she thinks from a PR perspective Baldoni will be fine but those two won't, at least for awhile.

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Anonymous wrote:How long before RR starts crying that his wife lied to him too?

Like someone else said here, he's such a sociopathic striver, and he has an ounce more of self-awareness than Blake, so I definitely feel like the public backlash is hitting him harder. Plus, he's not a nepo baby, so I feel like he's more desperate to cling onto his status. I definitely believed that they would stay in it for the long haul since they have so many kids together, but I don't know, I think things are really weighing on him.

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Anonymous wrote:How long before RR starts crying that his wife lied to him too?

Like someone else said here, he's such a sociopathic striver, and he has an ounce more of self-awareness than Blake, so I definitely feel like the public backlash is hitting him harder. Plus, he's not a nepo baby, so I feel like he's more desperate to cling onto his status. I definitely believed that they would stay in it for the long haul since they have so many kids together, but I don't know, I think things are really weighing on him.

He does look absolutely horrible.

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Oy vey imagine the room temperature IQ required to try and extort Taylor Swift. Dumber than rocks.

And it begs the question: How many victims have Blake and Ryan successfully destroyed, shaken down, blackmailed and/or extorted over the last 20 years? Same question for their creep manager, Ari.

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Anonymous wrote:How long before RR starts crying that his wife lied to him too?

Like someone else said here, he's such a sociopathic striver, and he has an ounce more of self-awareness than Blake, so I definitely feel like the public backlash is hitting him harder. Plus, he's not a nepo baby, so I feel like he's more desperate to cling onto his status. I definitely believed that they would stay in it for the long haul since they have so many kids together, but I don't know, I think things are really weighing on him.

Closeted gay men don’t care about their fake wife.

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Anonymous wrote:Oy vey imagine the room temperature IQ required to try and extort Taylor Swift. Dumber than rocks.

And it begs the question: How many victims have Blake and Ryan successfully destroyed, shaken down, blackmailed and/or extorted over the last 20 years? Same question for their creep manager, Ari.

I’m sure Blake and Ryan’s victims are numerous. Cannot even imagine the things that Ari Emanuel, friend of Sean combs, has done.

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So Esra Hudson's letter says: "It is worth stating for the record, however, that each of the allegations in the Freedman Letter is unequivocally and demonstrably false."

That means Willkie Farr is denying all of the following allegations from Freedman's letter, and saying that none of them are true:

1. Ms. Lively requested that Taylor Swift delete their text messages;

2. Michael Gottlieb of Willkie Farr, counsel for the Lively Defendants, contacted a Venable attorney who represents Ms. Swift and demanded that Ms. Swift release a statement of support for Ms. Lively, intimating that, if Ms. Swift refused to do so, private text messages of a personal nature in Ms. Lively’s possession would be released.

3. A representative of Ms. Swift addressed these inappropriate and apparently extortionate threats in at least one written communication transmitted to Mr. Gottlieb.

Looking at Freedman's wording, I'm wondering whether this could be a misunderstanding related to the protective order motion? Like, did Gottlieb contact Venable asking whether they would be comfortable intervening as a third party to ask for AEO protections for third parties, because if they didn't, their text messages might get released without higher confidentiality?

That would make Freedman look like an idiot. But I am struggling to understand how Hudson can confidently say that all of the above is false. It's just weird, man.

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Still crickets from Taylor 7 hours later. Seems important.

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No one answered my question from a few pages ago. Was TS with Lively every step of the way on the filming, etc., of IEWU (as Lively claimed in interviews) OR was it all a fabrication by Lively, since Taylor alleged that she only contributed a song, and was not involved in any other aspects of IEWU?

Which version is true—Taylor or Blake’s

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Anonymous wrote:So Esra Hudson's letter says: "It is worth stating for the record, however, that each of the allegations in the Freedman Letter is unequivocally and demonstrably false."

That means Willkie Farr is denying all of the following allegations from Freedman's letter, and saying that none of them are true:

1. Ms. Lively requested that Taylor Swift delete their text messages;

2. Michael Gottlieb of Willkie Farr, counsel for the Lively Defendants, contacted a Venable attorney who represents Ms. Swift and demanded that Ms. Swift release a statement of support for Ms. Lively, intimating that, if Ms. Swift refused to do so, private text messages of a personal nature in Ms. Lively’s possession would be released.

3. A representative of Ms. Swift addressed these inappropriate and apparently extortionate threats in at least one written communication transmitted to Mr. Gottlieb.

Looking at Freedman's wording, I'm wondering whether this could be a misunderstanding related to the protective order motion? Like, did Gottlieb contact Venable asking whether they would be comfortable intervening as a third party to ask for AEO protections for third parties, because if they didn't, their text messages might get released without higher confidentiality?

That would make Freedman look like an idiot. But I am struggling to understand how Hudson can confidently say that all of the above is false. It's just weird, man.

Same people who said with a straight face that there was nothing improper about the Vanzan subpoena.

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Anonymous wrote:Still crickets from Taylor 7 hours later. Seems important.

Not really. Let the lawyers deal with it. The more statements she makes the more things BF can ask about in a depo.