ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Anonymous wrote:YNT player on the FL State roster in our area played high school. All American as a sophomore, junior and senior.
Again, if you are good enough to be on the YNT, you have the power to play HS. You have likely a choice of whatever elite club you want to play for and possibly a chance go pro. If you are a kid who has a goal of D1 and is good enough to get on a top ECNL team or club but it's not guaranteed, playing HS really depends on your coach and club. And chances are many will advise/discourage you from playing HS. That's the current youth soccer culture in the area I live in.


Players and parents who are afraid to lose their ECNL or GA spot because of HS. Your kid is not D1 level. If your kid was, their teams coaches would let you do whatever you wanted.


🤣 you have no idea what D1 level is…80%+ of ECNL girls are “D1 level”

D1 Level is unimpressive.


Keep telling yourself that. Hope it works out for you guys. If your kid is D1 level and you’re afraid of losing their spot something isn’t adding up. D1 girls don’t lose spots for playing high school.


I think you are missing the perspective of the ultra competitive club on this. For some, especially the ones with the strict HS rules, they want to win more than anything else. They see that success as their key to recruiting the best players possible. That means being top of the table and winning the national competitions, so that, not so much player development, IS their priority. Not to say that player development isn't present, just that it's secondary. Its in this atmosphere you find D1-level talented players who lost spots for wanting to play HS.
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Anonymous wrote:I think the chances of ECNL and GA doing something completely different are slim. At worst (or best) they will both do SY with the only potential difference being in the day they pick as the cutoff and any nuances with outliers who are not playing with their grade despite the cutoff (i hate to bring it back from the dead, but I’m taking about concepts like the 60+ guy).


ECNL going to SY with GY showcases GA staying birth year but adding biobanding you heard it here first.

This is very likely


This is more unlikely. Teams won’t morph for showcases alone. GA will do what ECNL does on the girls side, regardless of what MLSN does. MLSN and GA are not so connected that they have to do the same thing. ECNL isn’t that flexible because they have boys and girls clubs. It makes more sense for ECNL and GA on the girls side to do the same thing, which is SY, since there is a much more realistic path to playing college soccer on the girls side. Not as much on the boys.


GA is in this weird place where if they switch to SY they will just continue to be the second option behind ECNL. Where if they stay BY would be their own thing that is totally separate. They would also bring in better players as they would be the destination for January to July players.

If they try and not let girls play high school it would be the end of them for California teams.

They need really put a lot of thought and strategic planning into this decision.


I think GA is not in a position right now to try and go against the grain too much, especially since it’s a relatively young league still working on getting established. If it were to stay BY in the face of ECNL going SY, that could be a big blow. And where is this talk about them not letting kids play high school coming from? That’s old DA stuff.

People not intimately involved with youth soccer will view leagues aligned with school grade as more remedial. They will also view leagues aligned with BY as being more professional.

We all know why people want to change from BY to SY. People outside the youth soccer bubble won’t understand and you won’t be able to explain it to them.

The person that thinks switching to SY will kill BY is going to be big upset when it doesn’t happen.


You making stuff up that you think sounds smart and talks down doesn’t make it so.

What you posted is nonsense and meaningless.

This is you...

Ignoring what's going on right in front of your face.

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What exactly am I ignoring about your post that is “right in front of my face?”

Everyone sees it but you.

No worries, once the hammer gets dropped you won't be able to ignore.



Just another BY parent spouting non sense…just like the RAE expert who suddenly disappeared without giving the explanation


I think it was the RAE-critical person who disappeared after declining to explain what it actually is.
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Anonymous wrote:YNT player on the FL State roster in our area played high school. All American as a sophomore, junior and senior.
Again, if you are good enough to be on the YNT, you have the power to play HS. You have likely a choice of whatever elite club you want to play for and possibly a chance go pro. If you are a kid who has a goal of D1 and is good enough to get on a top ECNL team or club but it's not guaranteed, playing HS really depends on your coach and club. And chances are many will advise/discourage you from playing HS. That's the current youth soccer culture in the area I live in.


Players and parents who are afraid to lose their ECNL or GA spot because of HS. Your kid is not D1 level. If your kid was, their teams coaches would let you do whatever you wanted.


🤣 you have no idea what D1 level is…80%+ of ECNL girls are “D1 level”

D1 Level is unimpressive.


One of the top 10 dumbest and ill-informed posts in 640+ pages. And there's a LOT of dumb sh*t on here.


That person thinking D1 is unimpressive has no clue ENCL is a pipeline to D1.Where else are they going to get women to play in the ACC? Just HS players? That person has never watched an ECNL National Selection game.
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Anonymous wrote:YNT player on the FL State roster in our area played high school. All American as a sophomore, junior and senior.
Again, if you are good enough to be on the YNT, you have the power to play HS. You have likely a choice of whatever elite club you want to play for and possibly a chance go pro. If you are a kid who has a goal of D1 and is good enough to get on a top ECNL team or club but it's not guaranteed, playing HS really depends on your coach and club. And chances are many will advise/discourage you from playing HS. That's the current youth soccer culture in the area I live in.


Players and parents who are afraid to lose their ECNL or GA spot because of HS. Your kid is not D1 level. If your kid was, their teams coaches would let you do whatever you wanted.


🤣 you have no idea what D1 level is…80%+ of ECNL girls are “D1 level”

D1 Level is unimpressive.


One of the top 10 dumbest and ill-informed posts in 640+ pages. And there's a LOT of dumb sh*t on here.


That person thinking D1 is unimpressive has no clue ENCL is a pipeline to D1.Where else are they going to get women to play in the ACC? Just HS players? That person has never watched an ECNL National Selection game.


There are other pipelines. ECNL just has done the best lately for girls.
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Anonymous wrote:I think the chances of ECNL and GA doing something completely different are slim. At worst (or best) they will both do SY with the only potential difference being in the day they pick as the cutoff and any nuances with outliers who are not playing with their grade despite the cutoff (i hate to bring it back from the dead, but I’m taking about concepts like the 60+ guy).


ECNL going to SY with GY showcases GA staying birth year but adding biobanding you heard it here first.

This is very likely


This is more unlikely. Teams won’t morph for showcases alone. GA will do what ECNL does on the girls side, regardless of what MLSN does. MLSN and GA are not so connected that they have to do the same thing. ECNL isn’t that flexible because they have boys and girls clubs. It makes more sense for ECNL and GA on the girls side to do the same thing, which is SY, since there is a much more realistic path to playing college soccer on the girls side. Not as much on the boys.


GA is in this weird place where if they switch to SY they will just continue to be the second option behind ECNL. Where if they stay BY would be their own thing that is totally separate. They would also bring in better players as they would be the destination for January to July players.

If they try and not let girls play high school it would be the end of them for California teams.

They need really put a lot of thought and strategic planning into this decision.


I think GA is not in a position right now to try and go against the grain too much, especially since it’s a relatively young league still working on getting established. If it were to stay BY in the face of ECNL going SY, that could be a big blow. And where is this talk about them not letting kids play high school coming from? That’s old DA stuff.

People not intimately involved with youth soccer will view leagues aligned with school grade as more remedial. They will also view leagues aligned with BY as being more professional.

We all know why people want to change from BY to SY. People outside the youth soccer bubble won’t understand and you won’t be able to explain it to them.

The person that thinks switching to SY will kill BY is going to be big upset when it doesn’t happen.


You making stuff up that you think sounds smart and talks down doesn’t make it so.

What you posted is nonsense and meaningless.

This is you...

Ignoring what's going on right in front of your face.

.



What exactly am I ignoring about your post that is “right in front of my face?”

Everyone sees it but you.

No worries, once the hammer gets dropped you won't be able to ignore.



Just another BY parent spouting non sense…just like the RAE expert who suddenly disappeared without giving the explanation


I’m pretty sure the PP who what tell us “what is staring us in the face” is a SY fan.

The RAE lady is right, there is a lot of uninformed spouting of RAE in this thread as if it causes all ills or solves all woe.
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Anonymous wrote:YNT player on the FL State roster in our area played high school. All American as a sophomore, junior and senior.
Again, if you are good enough to be on the YNT, you have the power to play HS. You have likely a choice of whatever elite club you want to play for and possibly a chance go pro. If you are a kid who has a goal of D1 and is good enough to get on a top ECNL team or club but it's not guaranteed, playing HS really depends on your coach and club. And chances are many will advise/discourage you from playing HS. That's the current youth soccer culture in the area I live in.


Players and parents who are afraid to lose their ECNL or GA spot because of HS. Your kid is not D1 level. If your kid was, their teams coaches would let you do whatever you wanted.


🤣 you have no idea what D1 level is…80%+ of ECNL girls are “D1 level”

D1 Level is unimpressive.


One of the top 10 dumbest and ill-informed posts in 640+ pages. And there's a LOT of dumb sh*t on here.


That person thinking D1 is unimpressive has no clue ENCL is a pipeline to D1.Where else are they going to get women to play in the ACC? Just HS players? That person has never watched an ECNL National Selection game.


Yes genius…ECNL is a pipeline to D1, hence most ECNL girls are D1 talent. Read the thread.

That said, D1 soccer players solid soccer players, and I know that is so many girls (and their parents) dream…to play D1. And it’s also true that D1 soccer is unimpressive….if you disagree, totally cool. And totally cool why, because for you and your family THAT is the pinnacle of the soccer career. I get it, I just think the skill level in D1 is pretty mid compared to the next levels.
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Has any seen this:
Source https://x.com/ProspectsUsmnt/status/1883353332179497154

and
https://cuatower.com/2025/02/monumental-changes-rumored-to-come-to-college-soccer/

UPDATE: I hear that this process has been moving along this month, per numerous sources I've talked to on this matter.

It is believed that, at a recent coaching convention and via a recent conference call, during the month of January that further progress has been made.

Most sources I've spoken to believe that 2026-27 is when these changes would be put into place, although I don't yet know for a fact that 2025-26 has been ruled out.

The belief I've heard is that there was a recent vote on a conference call that included All ACC and Big 10 men's soccer programs to move forward with leaving the NCAA and joining the professional ranks.

Numerous sources have mentioned that many top programs are already starting to plan in a way that recognizes this coming shift.

This move would be with the backing of US Soccer Federation and this is a move to professionalize college soccer. The season would be 9-10 months long.

Speculation is that USL League One offered these programs the chance to join their league structure as professional teams, while MLS has been pushing back on this idea to USSF because they believe this move could hurt the place of their development league, MLS Next Pro, within in the professional pyramid.

Where exactly these college programs would fit in the pro pyramid is not yet clear after the discussions I've had on this matter.

Questions are swirling about exactly which programs will be involved. The answer varies, depending on who you talk to. As best as I can ascertain, no one really doubts that the ACC and Big 10 programs are on board.

Beyond that, my belief is that there are other programs, but it is not all of D1 Mens College Soccer at this point.

Some will tell you traditional power 4 conference sports schools, others say top 40-50 college soccer programs, others believe it's not split as much on prestige lines and is more a case by case basis outside of those two conferences.

Sources have mentioned that the process is chaotic and fluid, and a lot of the exact details, such as which programs are on board, is ever-changing.

There's also the likelihood of realignment of conferences in Division 1 Mens College Soccer if the professional ranks takes a segment of the programs and others end up staying.

The big picture is that there continues to be optimism that at least a sizable segment of the top men's college soccer programs are going to break away from the NCAA and professionalize in the next year or two.
Anonymous
Also this:
Source
https://opsmnetwork.com/the-potential-professionalization-of-ncaa-college-soccer/

According to multiple sources, a massive shift is on the way. The plan is to extend the college soccer season to match the pro calendar, upwards of nine to ten months. This means no more short, condensed seasons. Instead, college soccer could adopt a full-time model, with players training and competing year-round.

But the change goes beyond just the length of the season. There’s also talk of turning college soccer into a “semi-professional” league, with players having the opportunity to play for professional teams in the offseason. That could mean more exposure to top-level competition and more chances to earn contracts.
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Anonymous wrote:YNT player on the FL State roster in our area played high school. All American as a sophomore, junior and senior.
Again, if you are good enough to be on the YNT, you have the power to play HS. You have likely a choice of whatever elite club you want to play for and possibly a chance go pro. If you are a kid who has a goal of D1 and is good enough to get on a top ECNL team or club but it's not guaranteed, playing HS really depends on your coach and club. And chances are many will advise/discourage you from playing HS. That's the current youth soccer culture in the area I live in.


Players and parents who are afraid to lose their ECNL or GA spot because of HS. Your kid is not D1 level. If your kid was, their teams coaches would let you do whatever you wanted.


🤣 you have no idea what D1 level is…80%+ of ECNL girls are “D1 level”

D1 Level is unimpressive.


One of the top 10 dumbest and ill-informed posts in 640+ pages. And there's a LOT of dumb sh*t on here.


That person thinking D1 is unimpressive has no clue ENCL is a pipeline to D1.Where else are they going to get women to play in the ACC? Just HS players? That person has never watched an ECNL National Selection game.


Yes genius…ECNL is a pipeline to D1, hence most ECNL girls are D1 talent. Read the thread.

That said, D1 soccer players solid soccer players, and I know that is so many girls (and their parents) dream…to play D1. And it’s also true that D1 soccer is unimpressive….if you disagree, totally cool. And totally cool why, because for you and your family THAT is the pinnacle of the soccer career. I get it, I just think the skill level in D1 is pretty mid compared to the next levels.


What "next level" are you referring to? The pros? Of course that's a higher level than D1.
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Anonymous wrote:YNT player on the FL State roster in our area played high school. All American as a sophomore, junior and senior.


USYNT Goalie from IL won a state championship as a freshman in the fall.
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Anonymous wrote:YNT player on the FL State roster in our area played high school. All American as a sophomore, junior and senior.
Again, if you are good enough to be on the YNT, you have the power to play HS. You have likely a choice of whatever elite club you want to play for and possibly a chance go pro. If you are a kid who has a goal of D1 and is good enough to get on a top ECNL team or club but it's not guaranteed, playing HS really depends on your coach and club. And chances are many will advise/discourage you from playing HS. That's the current youth soccer culture in the area I live in.


Players and parents who are afraid to lose their ECNL or GA spot because of HS. Your kid is not D1 level. If your kid was, their teams coaches would let you do whatever you wanted.


🤣 you have no idea what D1 level is…80%+ of ECNL girls are “D1 level”

D1 Level is unimpressive.


One of the top 10 dumbest and ill-informed posts in 640+ pages. And there's a LOT of dumb sh*t on here.


That person thinking D1 is unimpressive has no clue ENCL is a pipeline to D1.Where else are they going to get women to play in the ACC? Just HS players? That person has never watched an ECNL National Selection game.


Yes genius…ECNL is a pipeline to D1, hence most ECNL girls are D1 talent. Read the thread.

That said, D1 soccer players solid soccer players, and I know that is so many girls (and their parents) dream…to play D1. And it’s also true that D1 soccer is unimpressive….if you disagree, totally cool. And totally cool why, because for you and your family THAT is the pinnacle of the soccer career. I get it, I just think the skill level in D1 is pretty mid compared to the next levels.


What "next level" are you referring to? The pros? Of course that's a higher level than D1.


Great! Then you agree, D1 soccer is unimpressive!
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Anonymous wrote:YNT player on the FL State roster in our area played high school. All American as a sophomore, junior and senior.


USYNT Goalie from IL won a state championship as a freshman in the fall.


Glad they got the flexibility (assuming they play club someplace). Not everyone does.
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We are working quickly with our members to develop communications and best practices that will support this decision, with the goal of centralizing resources on a U.S. Soccer webpage by our Annual General Meeting on February 27, 2025. You can expect the following resources to be available around that time.

The word “by” tells me that the us soccer webpage will be posted before the AGM on Feb 27.
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Anonymous wrote:We are working quickly with our members to develop communications and best practices that will support this decision, with the goal of centralizing resources on a U.S. Soccer webpage by our Annual General Meeting on February 27, 2025. You can expect the following resources to be available around that time.

The word “by” tells me that the us soccer webpage will be posted before the AGM on Feb 27.


I agree with that too! Though that sounds like... they are just going to clubs what to do if the leagues go to some other school year plan, but it's unclear which leagues will and won't go? Last I heard from a coach at our club (an ECNL club for boys and girls) is they are still waiting ECNL to say what they are going to, because that will help them plan rosters for next year and beyond.
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Anonymous wrote:We are working quickly with our members to develop communications and best practices that will support this decision, with the goal of centralizing resources on a U.S. Soccer webpage by our Annual General Meeting on February 27, 2025. You can expect the following resources to be available around that time.

The word “by” tells me that the us soccer webpage will be posted before the AGM on Feb 27.


You may be insinuating too much. They said their goal is to centralize the resources by the AGM and to expect the resources to be available around that time. Here's what USYS has on their website.

Over the past several months, U.S. Soccer’s member organizations, leagues, and clubs have collaborated to determine the best approach regarding roster formation for participants across various levels and regions of the country.

We support U.S. Soccer’s approach to providing choice to allow member organizations and their leagues to make decisions in the best interest of their participants. While the ultimate authority for any potential changes lies with the Organizational Members (i.e. National Associations, National Affiliate, State Associations), we aim to do so with feedback collected during this process.

We want to reiterate our intention to work together to ensure clarity and mitigate issues regarding the implementation of any potential changes for the 2026-27 soccer calendar. We anticipate a formal release of a comprehensive plan following the U.S. Soccer AGM (February 27-March 1).
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