Help me Edit: Response to Brookings Report

jsteele
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This article has now gone through several revisions and I have incorporated a lot of the suggestions. Please offer any further ideas for revision. I plan to finalize this within the next few hours.

The Brookings Institution recently released a report on DC Public Schools. This report, "We all want what’s best for our kids", uses data from 10 years worth of posts in the DC Public and Public Charter Schools forum. My wife and I own and operate the DC Urban Moms and Dads website and are frequent participants in the DC Schools forum. Moreover, we have two sons who both attended a DC Public Charter School. One attended and one still attends DC Public Schools. Therefore, we know well both the DC public school system and the DC Schools forum.

Having read the report in detail, I believe that the research for this report was lazy, the analysis is flawed, and the conclusions are wrong. The entire report is based on flawed analysis -- word frequency analysis in which keywords are connected to school names -- a technique that does not take context into account. In fact, the report's examples show such context-based errors. The measures of school attention suffer from uncorrected bias due to school size and the uneven geographic sample representation. Alice Deal Middle School and Wilson are two of the largest schools in the DCPS system and the in-bounds school for a large percentage of the posters. The finding that they are the two most discussed schools is exactly what would be expected.

Moreover, beyond the data and analysis issues, the key conclusions of the report are obvious and simplistic. The report's first and most important conclusion is that school selection is influenced by real estate prices and neighborhood segregation. Yet the data in the report is hardly required to make this conclusion. In fact, I hardly know anyone familiar with the DCPS system that does not agree with this statement. Because the report merely restates a problem that is widely acknowledged, even without discussing the quality of its data the report does not advance our thinking about the problem, its sources, or ways to fix it.

The most glaring failure of the report is its lack of recognition that practically all participants in the DC Schools forum who have children in DC public schools have chosen integrated schools. The report states that Alice Deal Middle School and Woodrow Wilson High School are the two most commonly discussed schools in the forum. Deal's demographics are 46% White, 28%, Black, and 16% Hispanic. Wilson's are 39% White, 29% Black, 22% Hispanic. There is no reasonable definition of "integrated" that does not describe these schools. The report does not mention the biggest way students segregate by socio-economic status, which is moving to the suburbs. If higher-SES parents want to avoid integrated schools, only a few scribbles in their checkbooks are needed for them to relocate to within the boundaries of Bethesda's Walt Whitman High with its 67% White, 4% Black student body. The report does not acknowledge that higher-SES families still in DCPS are still in the DC public school system, and often trying to do their best to help improve DCPS schools instead of leaving for often-much-more-segregated suburban schools.

The report repeatedly attributes to racial demographics what can easily be explained by other more obvious factors. The DC Schools forum (and to an extent the entire website) has always been most popular with parents in northwest DC and in parts of Ward 6. Therefore, there should be no surprise that schools in northwest DC get discussed the most. The report seems to miss this rather obvious fact that the amount of attention paid to schools is highly reflective of the self-selected user base. Users discuss what they know. The large number of users in northwest DC and Ward 6 means that posters in those areas can expect useful responses to questions about their neighborhood schools. Forum users in parts of the city in which we have fewer users may find little to no response to their queries simply because few of our users know anything about those neighborhood schools. The lack of discussion is a result of unfamiliarity, not the schools' demographics. Those outside of areas in which DC Urban Moms and Dads is popular may prefer to discuss their schools on neighborhood mailing lists and Facebook groups, also decreasing mentions of the schools in the forum for a reasons unrelated to student demographics.

In another example, the report categorizes Woodrow Wilson as a "high-attention" school compared to Duke Ellington School of the Arts which is categorized as "low-attention". The report attributes the disparity of attention to demographics, ignoring that Wilson is the city's largest high school with 1,872 students while Ellington is a specialized arts school with 558 students. Of course Wilson would get more attention.

Moreover, the mere mention of a school's name is no real indication that the school is being promoted or favored. A thread about "Lack Of Eye Candy At Janney" (referring to dads) is 34 pages long. I'm not sure that helped increase interest in the school. Moreover, some of the "high-attention" schools gained high-attention because of scandals. The threads more likely scared people away from the schools rather than attracting them.

A similar misrepresentation of data occurs when the report discusses schools in the Brookland neighborhood. The report provides a graph showing which schools in Brookland get mentioned the most in the forum, concluding that schools with significant White demographics get discussed more than schools with fewer White students. What is missing from this conclusion is the fact that the most discussed schools are all charter schools which draw from the entire District for students while the less-discussed schools are all in-boundary and rely on their neighborhoods for students. As such, the pool of forum posters potentially interested in discussing the charter schools is much larger. This is simply not a valid comparison. To be accurate, the authors should have limited their study to only posters living within Brookland, but the data available to them did not allow this.

The basis of the report is word frequency analysis in which the presence or absence of a keyword is used to determine interest. This is a very primitive methodology replete with shortcomings. This practice removes all context from the discussion. For instance, the word "diversity" is listed as a popular keyword. Writing "no diversity" would also add to the count. But it is unclear what mentioning "diversity" means. If "diversity" is identified as a strength of a school, does that support segregation? The authors include "IB" as a synonym for "in-bound", apparently unaware that it is also used for "International Baccalaureate" and comes up often in reference to several popular schools. Further, the authors identify "in-bound" as the most common substantive term they analyzed. Significantly, the District's heavily discussed rezoning process occurred right in the middle of their dataset. Every DCPS-related publication was discussing "in-bound".

The lack of context shows itself in another example. In a paragraph beginning "Many school assignments are deemed unacceptable outcomes to DC Urban Moms participants; it is common to consider opting out of the District's school system entirely..." The report quotes a post, "Agree. I would apply [to] Janney and pay for private if I didn't get in." On the face of it, this post seems to support the authors' contention. But, if one actually reads the thread in which this is posted, the original poster is inbounds for Janney, has a child in a private preschool, and is asking about pre-k 4. The recommendation that is quoted is not about leaving DCPS, but about not making school changes two years in a row (the OP's child is guaranteed a K spot at Janney). The thread almost entirely contradicts the premise it is being used to support. Far from threatening to leave DCPS, the poster is eager to get in to it. The authors spent four years on this study, but don't appear to have bothered reading the threads on which they were basing their conclusions.

The report is clear in its conclusion that the DC Schools forum conversations support school segregation. But the same conversations can be viewed differently. Privileged families who are unhappy with their inbound DCPS school have a number of choices. They can move, either within DC or to another jurisdiction. They can utilize the lottery and hope for acceptance to another DCPS or charter school, or they can choose a private school. By providing information, access to sometimes obscure data, advice on how to use the lottery and so on, the forum makes it easier and more likely for parents to choose a DC public school. The number of White students in DC's public schools is increasing. Not all of these are choosing predominately White schools, but rather are contributing to the integration of additional schools. A more serious and objective report would also acknowledge how the DC Schools forum has contributed to desegregation. This is the irony of the report: it criticizes families who choose to remain in DC public schools and the forum that helps them do it.

DCUM posters are often optimistic about an integrated school experience, something in which most of them are gladly participating. Like all parents, they are attempting to find the best educational opportunities for their children. They are working within a system they did not invent and over which they have little control. The realities of race, class, and culture in DC public schools are nuanced and complex. They are deserving of serious study. A shoddy word frequency analysis completely devoid of context is not such a study. It does a disservice to the forum posters, to the authors who wrote it, and to Brookings who published it.
Anonymous
*shoddy
jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:*shoddy


Thanks. I corrected that. I also removed the off-topic post that belongs in the other thread.
Anonymous
In your paragraph about Wilson demographics, in the last sentence you say “completely ignoring the black families...” Should you consider being more inclusive there? It’s not just white and black families that want Wilson as seems clear from the 22% Hispanic stat.
jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:In your paragraph about Wilson demographics, in the last sentence you say “completely ignoring the black families...” Should you consider being more inclusive there? It’s not just white and black families that want Wilson as seems clear from the 22% Hispanic stat.


Thank you. That was an oversight on my part which I have corrected.
Anonymous
Great. Send to the Post.
Anonymous
I publish a lot of op-eds and the usual target word count is around 700. They will maybe give you up to 900 if they really like the piece. So you need to cut this in half, basically.

I think you also need to discuss selection bias -- who is most likely to participate in this forum, etc.
jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:I publish a lot of op-eds and the usual target word count is around 700. They will maybe give you up to 900 if they really like the piece. So you need to cut this in half, basically.

I think you also need to discuss selection bias -- who is most likely to participate in this forum, etc.


I am not planning to send this to a newspaper. I plan to publish myself on the DCUM home page. Could you please provide some wording about what you suggest including about selection bias? That is part of what I was getting at in the paragraph that begins: "The DC Schools forum (and to an extent the entire website) has always been most popular with parents in northwest DC." How would you improve that section?
Anonymous
I'd remove the language about you being targeted. To be blunt, you may feel that way but it does not really matter. The issues here are agnostic to your feelings: (a) the authors were not up front with you, didn't tell you they would scrape/save the site, and also quoted specific posts after saying they wouldn't (according to what you wrote earlier) and (b) in your opinion their methodology is shoddy, for reasons x, y, and z.
jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:I'd remove the language about you being targeted. To be blunt, you may feel that way but it does not really matter. The issues here are agnostic to your feelings: (a) the authors were not up front with you, didn't tell you they would scrape/save the site, and also quoted specific posts after saying they wouldn't (according to what you wrote earlier) and (b) in your opinion their methodology is shoddy, for reasons x, y, and z.


I changed the wording of that sentence a bit. I am just trying to explain why I am more than simply a casual observer. I am not only the site owner, but someone who participates in the forum and a parent who has struggled with the school-decision process. In the minds of the report's authors, I am a segregationist.
Anonymous
I thought it was good, up until the last bit, defending parents -- it comes across as defensive. Residential and educational segregation is real, and what we think of as a "good" school is often tied up in race. Even "objective" measures like test scores reflect racial disparities.

Parents always say they just want good schools for their children, but that doesn't mean that they aren't participating in and perpetuating a racially biased system. It would be helpful if white parents (which includes me) were willing to be a little more introspective and real with ourselves about the choices we are making and why we are making them. You can acknowledge that parents, like everyone else, can be actively racist, or have racist blind spots, or benefit from a racist system, while still pointing out the serious problems with the Brookings' study methodology.
Anonymous
“ . If Ward 3 parents were uncomfortable with diversity, only a few scribbles in their checkbooks would be required for them to disembark to a home within the boundaries of Bethesda's Walt Whitman High with it's 67% white, 4% black student body.” It should be its.
Anonymous
I think responding to this at all is a mistake.
Anonymous
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'd remove the language about you being targeted. To be blunt, you may feel that way but it does not really matter. The issues here are agnostic to your feelings: (a) the authors were not up front with you, didn't tell you they would scrape/save the site, and also quoted specific posts after saying they wouldn't (according to what you wrote earlier) and (b) in your opinion their methodology is shoddy, for reasons x, y, and z.


I changed the wording of that sentence a bit. I am just trying to explain why I am more than simply a casual observer. I am not only the site owner, but someone who participates in the forum and a parent who has struggled with the school-decision process. In the minds of the report's authors, I am a segregationist.


I think it's better now. I don't live in DC, and am just a long-time DCUM fan. From that vantage point, I still feel the post comes across as a bit overly emotional at times, and suggest rereading it tomorrow morning with a dispassionate eye. In my view, as a DC outsider, this is just a disappointing paper that is below the standards of Brookings (certainly I will be more skeptical of their papers going forward). Most people will understand that word frequency analysis without sufficient contextual controls is shoddy practice if you point it out, and the authors don't seem to have controlled for context. I understand your emotional response, in your roles both as a parent and as the site owner, but I think that you may be giving badly done research a bit too much credence with an emotional response. If you want to respond on the site, my unsolicited advice is that I would make it shorter, focus on the numerous methodological flaws, and leave it at that.

It's really unfortunate because I think a thoughtfully done analysis up to the prior standards of Brookings could have been insightful and useful. Instead I feel like the authors have been unthoughtful about serious issues of educational access and equity. It's sad.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think responding to this at all is a mistake.


I 100% agree.
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