Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up

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Anonymous wrote:Omg the people competing about having the best finances to say who can claim progressive rights in saying they “actually” arent predatory capitalists..DCUM, never change.


There is nothing predatory about living below your means


Sure, Jan. It’s all semantics.
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Anonymous wrote:It is highly inadvisable for people to start their objections to these proposed boundaries with fears about their property values. It will not play out well with the MCPS decision makers or the media. If you don’t feel the inherent wrongness of these objections yourself, at least be practical and read the room and realize that these objections will not get you anywhere in a county that is majority minority and 50% FARMS.


I think this is exactly incorrect. People will care about moco trying to decrease its tax revenue base.
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Anonymous wrote:Why the overcomplexity? Leave kids in the school they are closest to instead of bringing them by bus to places farther out.


agree


Many kids are not currently assigned to the school that is closest. It is impossible to do this for every family.


but why make it worse?


Did nobody tell you that several high schools in MoCo are overcrowded and they built two new high schools to address that? Many children are going to have to change schools and some will have to travel further. I agree it is unfortunate, but sometimes, life is not fair. Maybe when you grow up and have a mortgage, you will understand.


Why isn’t your mortgage paradise off? Those of us who are grown up paid off our mortgages.


oh the dripping entitlement.


It’s not entitled. When you go to fancy meals, travel, upgrade your house, all kinds of nice things, we went without and paid off our mortgage. See how that works. We haven’t been on a vacation in years, not even a weekend away.


For those of us who have a sub 3% rate, that is not smart financially. We invest our money instead.


Why can’t you do both? That’s what we did. Paying off your house is life changing. So, you have the money, stop complaining.


I'm not complaining. I am building up a healthy retirement fund. Are you envious?


No, because we are doing the same thing except we own our house so that extra mortgage money can go in there too. Envious? It shouldn’t be one or the other. You need regular savings, investments, retirement and college funds. And, as soon as kids get jobs all their money goes into a Roth IRA. We don’t need their money so better off to save it too.


Ok, it sounds like we are both happy with our finances. How wonderful for us.

But no, it is not financially smart to pay off a low interest loan early. It may be something you want to do for other reasons.


Yes it is because you are always at risk of job loss and other things. It’s stability.


Guys, take this to the personal finance board please. It is very off-topic here but you can have a great discussion about it there with other interested people and see who they say is right.


Entertaining though.
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Anonymous wrote:It is highly inadvisable for people to start their objections to these proposed boundaries with fears about their property values. It will not play out well with the MCPS decision makers or the media. If you don’t feel the inherent wrongness of these objections yourself, at least be practical and read the room and realize that these objections will not get you anywhere in a county that is majority minority and 50% FARMS.


I think this is exactly incorrect. People will care about moco trying to decrease its tax revenue base.


They do, but will never say so. The board will not and you will regret ever bringing it. Third rail.

Stick to the FAA policy and why what they’ve offered up doesn’t work.
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Anonymous wrote:Why the overcomplexity? Leave kids in the school they are closest to instead of bringing them by bus to places farther out.


agree


Many kids are not currently assigned to the school that is closest. It is impossible to do this for every family.


but why make it worse?


Did nobody tell you that several high schools in MoCo are overcrowded and they built two new high schools to address that? Many children are going to have to change schools and some will have to travel further. I agree it is unfortunate, but sometimes, life is not fair. Maybe when you grow up and have a mortgage, you will understand.


Why isn’t your mortgage paradise off? Those of us who are grown up paid off our mortgages.


oh the dripping entitlement.


It’s not entitled. When you go to fancy meals, travel, upgrade your house, all kinds of nice things, we went without and paid off our mortgage. See how that works. We haven’t been on a vacation in years, not even a weekend away.


For those of us who have a sub 3% rate, that is not smart financially. We invest our money instead.


Why can’t you do both? That’s what we did. Paying off your house is life changing. So, you have the money, stop complaining.


I'm not complaining. I am building up a healthy retirement fund. Are you envious?


No, because we are doing the same thing except we own our house so that extra mortgage money can go in there too. Envious? It shouldn’t be one or the other. You need regular savings, investments, retirement and college funds. And, as soon as kids get jobs all their money goes into a Roth IRA. We don’t need their money so better off to save it too.


Ok, it sounds like we are both happy with our finances. How wonderful for us.

But no, it is not financially smart to pay off a low interest loan early. It may be something you want to do for other reasons.


Yes it is because you are always at risk of job loss and other things. It’s stability.


Guys, take this to the personal finance board please. It is very off-topic here but you can have a great discussion about it there with other interested people and see who they say is right.


Yes, start a thread on who is the most progressive based on your personal finances that allow you to have no mortgage but own a home. Lol
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Anonymous wrote:It is highly inadvisable for people to start their objections to these proposed boundaries with fears about their property values. It will not play out well with the MCPS decision makers or the media. If you don’t feel the inherent wrongness of these objections yourself, at least be practical and read the room and realize that these objections will not get you anywhere in a county that is majority minority and 50% FARMS.


I think this is exactly incorrect. People will care about moco trying to decrease its tax revenue base.


They do, but will never say so. The board will not and you will regret ever bringing it. Third rail.

Stick to the FAA policy and why what they’ve offered up doesn’t work.


Weird. Why is this a third rail? Why willl I regret it? What happens to me? Do I get shunned?
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Anonymous wrote:Why the overcomplexity? Leave kids in the school they are closest to instead of bringing them by bus to places farther out.


agree


Many kids are not currently assigned to the school that is closest. It is impossible to do this for every family.


but why make it worse?


Did nobody tell you that several high schools in MoCo are overcrowded and they built two new high schools to address that? Many children are going to have to change schools and some will have to travel further. I agree it is unfortunate, but sometimes, life is not fair. Maybe when you grow up and have a mortgage, you will understand.


Why isn’t your mortgage paradise off? Those of us who are grown up paid off our mortgages.


oh the dripping entitlement.


It’s not entitled. When you go to fancy meals, travel, upgrade your house, all kinds of nice things, we went without and paid off our mortgage. See how that works. We haven’t been on a vacation in years, not even a weekend away.


For those of us who have a sub 3% rate, that is not smart financially. We invest our money instead.


Why can’t you do both? That’s what we did. Paying off your house is life changing. So, you have the money, stop complaining.


I'm not complaining. I am building up a healthy retirement fund. Are you envious?


No, because we are doing the same thing except we own our house so that extra mortgage money can go in there too. Envious? It shouldn’t be one or the other. You need regular savings, investments, retirement and college funds. And, as soon as kids get jobs all their money goes into a Roth IRA. We don’t need their money so better off to save it too.


Ok, it sounds like we are both happy with our finances. How wonderful for us.

But no, it is not financially smart to pay off a low interest loan early. It may be something you want to do for other reasons.


Yes it is because you are always at risk of job loss and other things. It’s stability.


Yes this is off topic but I can’t resist — I think most financial advisors will advise you to keep the mortgage, but that does assume smart investing across the board and that may not be the case. People are not always rational actors
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Anonymous wrote:Why the overcomplexity? Leave kids in the school they are closest to instead of bringing them by bus to places farther out.


agree


Many kids are not currently assigned to the school that is closest. It is impossible to do this for every family.


but why make it worse?


Did nobody tell you that several high schools in MoCo are overcrowded and they built two new high schools to address that? Many children are going to have to change schools and some will have to travel further. I agree it is unfortunate, but sometimes, life is not fair. Maybe when you grow up and have a mortgage, you will understand.


Why isn’t your mortgage paradise off? Those of us who are grown up paid off our mortgages.


oh the dripping entitlement.


It’s not entitled. When you go to fancy meals, travel, upgrade your house, all kinds of nice things, we went without and paid off our mortgage. See how that works. We haven’t been on a vacation in years, not even a weekend away.


For those of us who have a sub 3% rate, that is not smart financially. We invest our money instead.


Why can’t you do both? That’s what we did. Paying off your house is life changing. So, you have the money, stop complaining.


I'm not complaining. I am building up a healthy retirement fund. Are you envious?


No, because we are doing the same thing except we own our house so that extra mortgage money can go in there too. Envious? It shouldn’t be one or the other. You need regular savings, investments, retirement and college funds. And, as soon as kids get jobs all their money goes into a Roth IRA. We don’t need their money so better off to save it too.


Ok, it sounds like we are both happy with our finances. How wonderful for us.

But no, it is not financially smart to pay off a low interest loan early. It may be something you want to do for other reasons.


Yes it is because you are always at risk of job loss and other things. It’s stability.


Yes this is off topic but I can’t resist — I think most financial advisors will advise you to keep the mortgage, but that does assume smart investing across the board and that may not be the case. People are not always rational actors


Ours didn't.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why the overcomplexity? Leave kids in the school they are closest to instead of bringing them by bus to places farther out.


agree


Many kids are not currently assigned to the school that is closest. It is impossible to do this for every family.


but why make it worse?


Did nobody tell you that several high schools in MoCo are overcrowded and they built two new high schools to address that? Many children are going to have to change schools and some will have to travel further. I agree it is unfortunate, but sometimes, life is not fair. Maybe when you grow up and have a mortgage, you will understand.


Why isn’t your mortgage paradise off? Those of us who are grown up paid off our mortgages.


oh the dripping entitlement.


It’s not entitled. When you go to fancy meals, travel, upgrade your house, all kinds of nice things, we went without and paid off our mortgage. See how that works. We haven’t been on a vacation in years, not even a weekend away.


For those of us who have a sub 3% rate, that is not smart financially. We invest our money instead.


Why can’t you do both? That’s what we did. Paying off your house is life changing. So, you have the money, stop complaining.


I'm not complaining. I am building up a healthy retirement fund. Are you envious?


No, because we are doing the same thing except we own our house so that extra mortgage money can go in there too. Envious? It shouldn’t be one or the other. You need regular savings, investments, retirement and college funds. And, as soon as kids get jobs all their money goes into a Roth IRA. We don’t need their money so better off to save it too.


Ok, it sounds like we are both happy with our finances. How wonderful for us.

But no, it is not financially smart to pay off a low interest loan early. It may be something you want to do for other reasons.


Yes it is because you are always at risk of job loss and other things. It’s stability.


Yes this is off topic but I can’t resist — I think most financial advisors will advise you to keep the mortgage, but that does assume smart investing across the board and that may not be the case. People are not always rational actors


Ours didn't.



Omg
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is highly inadvisable for people to start their objections to these proposed boundaries with fears about their property values. It will not play out well with the MCPS decision makers or the media. If you don’t feel the inherent wrongness of these objections yourself, at least be practical and read the room and realize that these objections will not get you anywhere in a county that is majority minority and 50% FARMS.


I think this is exactly incorrect. People will care about moco trying to decrease its tax revenue base.


They do, but will never say so. The board will not and you will regret ever bringing it. Third rail.

Stick to the FAA policy and why what they’ve offered up doesn’t work.


Weird. Why is this a third rail? Why willl I regret it? What happens to me? Do I get shunned?


I think you could go back through this thread and have a pretty good idea of reactions.
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Anonymous wrote:New Boundary Study that will “help” with Wheaton’s overcrowding shows:

Option #1: Wheaton [...] would then be above 100% capacity.

Option #2: "All of the high schools would fall between 80% and 100% of enrollment capacity and the majority of the attendance zones would have contiguous boundaries, except for a small area of Wheaton’s attendance zone. "

Option #3: "Wheaton would be slightly above 100% of capacity."

Option #4: "Wheaton [...] would be at about 120% [of capacity]."

https://bethesdamagazine....84YKnifJPw


Most posters on this thread are oblivious to the needs of schools like Wheaton HS and were easily placated by the notion of adding more capacity at Edison.


Ignorant bethesdan here and didn't go to meeting....what is the Edison plan and what's wrong with it? ( assume not expanding the Edison program..?)
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Anonymous wrote:New Boundary Study that will “help” with Wheaton’s overcrowding shows:

Option #1: Wheaton [...] would then be above 100% capacity.

Option #2: "All of the high schools would fall between 80% and 100% of enrollment capacity and the majority of the attendance zones would have contiguous boundaries, except for a small area of Wheaton’s attendance zone. "

Option #3: "Wheaton would be slightly above 100% of capacity."

Option #4: "Wheaton [...] would be at about 120% [of capacity]."

https://bethesdamagazine....84YKnifJPw


Most posters on this thread are oblivious to the needs of schools like Wheaton HS and were easily placated by the notion of adding more capacity at Edison.


Ignorant bethesdan here and didn't go to meeting....what is the Edison plan and what's wrong with it? ( assume not expanding the Edison program..?)


They want to put portables at Edison…. For Wheaton students to use because there is NO LAND OR SPACE to put portables at Wheaton. This is not feasible. Kids have huge problems getting to class on time as it is with the size of the school… having them walk 15 mins from another site is NOT going to work. We will continue to be pushed out of our classrooms and made to float. Right now we are having classes in the library and the cafeteria. Let me say that again. Classes in the CAFETERIA. It is not fair for other schools like WJ to be at 77% capacity and Wheaton at 120%. Who in their right mind thinks that is a good idea?
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Only option 2 fixes utilization at Wheaton.
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Repeat after me:

These are not the actual options. These 4 options show how to emphasize each of the 4 equal parts of the FAA policy.

Real options will come in the Fall.

No need to go crazy at this time.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:New Boundary Study that will “help” with Wheaton’s overcrowding shows:

Option #1: Wheaton [...] would then be above 100% capacity.

Option #2: "All of the high schools would fall between 80% and 100% of enrollment capacity and the majority of the attendance zones would have contiguous boundaries, except for a small area of Wheaton’s attendance zone. "

Option #3: "Wheaton would be slightly above 100% of capacity."

Option #4: "Wheaton [...] would be at about 120% [of capacity]."

https://bethesdamagazine....84YKnifJPw


Most posters on this thread are oblivious to the needs of schools like Wheaton HS and were easily placated by the notion of adding more capacity at Edison.


Ignorant bethesdan here and didn't go to meeting....what is the Edison plan and what's wrong with it? ( assume not expanding the Edison program..?)


They want to put portables at Edison…. For Wheaton students to use because there is NO LAND OR SPACE to put portables at Wheaton. This is not feasible. Kids have huge problems getting to class on time as it is with the size of the school… having them walk 15 mins from another site is NOT going to work. We will continue to be pushed out of our classrooms and made to float. Right now we are having classes in the library and the cafeteria. Let me say that again. Classes in the CAFETERIA. It is not fair for other schools like WJ to be at 77% capacity and Wheaton at 120%. Who in their right mind thinks that is a good idea?


Someone posted they are adding what 500 students next year? Portables at Edison is insane. They need to move some of those kids to other schools where Wheaton is not their home school.
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