APS School Board race

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Anonymous wrote:Where do they stand on boundary changes and dealing with facilities? Now that we’re not in a pandemic and the issue is not whether to have in-person instruction, these are the issues that tend to ignite passions.

I would like to know this too. The APE group that Miranda led was consistently against air quality and health upgrades to facilities so I would not expect much from Miranda on this.

I don't believe APE was against any of those things. It is highly unrealistic to think APS would be able to implement all the "upgrades" SOME people/person were insisting must happen fully before any student ever be let back into a building even to pick up something they may have left in their locker before shutdown. APE (rightly) understood that schools needed to open. That doesn't mean they were anti-health upgrades. Those AEM people insisting schools shouldn't reopen until everything in the facilities was perfect.....were they out in the streets saying the same about stores and gyms bars and restaurants and churches? Are they accusing everyone who supported reopening those things of being "anti health upgrades" or teacher haters?

APE kept saying we don't need this or we don't need that, just open now without any of those things. Kept insisting they were not needed, downplayed Covid by saying kids don't spread it, or it doesn't hurt kids, or long covid isn't a thing. All the lies.

And then they noticeably would not even support masks during the mask wars of Jan 2021.

so yes we know how they feel about health measures.

Yes, the mask thing was very telling.

I don't trust Miranda to make policy for my kids' health after that.

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Anonymous wrote:Where do they stand on boundary changes and dealing with facilities? Now that we’re not in a pandemic and the issue is not whether to have in-person instruction, these are the issues that tend to ignite passions.

I would like to know this too. The APE group that Miranda led was consistently against air quality and health upgrades to facilities so I would not expect much from Miranda on this.

I don't believe APE was against any of those things. It is highly unrealistic to think APS would be able to implement all the "upgrades" SOME people/person were insisting must happen fully before any student ever be let back into a building even to pick up something they may have left in their locker before shutdown. APE (rightly) understood that schools needed to open. That doesn't mean they were anti-health upgrades. Those AEM people insisting schools shouldn't reopen until everything in the facilities was perfect.....were they out in the streets saying the same about stores and gyms bars and restaurants and churches? Are they accusing everyone who supported reopening those things of being "anti health upgrades" or teacher haters?

APE kept saying we don't need this or we don't need that, just open now without any of those things. Kept insisting they were not needed, downplayed Covid by saying kids don't spread it, or it doesn't hurt kids, or long covid isn't a thing. All the lies.

And then they noticeably would not even support masks during the mask wars of Jan 2021.

so yes we know how they feel about health measures.

Ummm in hindsight they were correct.

Oh come on, this again? No APE was 100 WRONG. APE claimed Covid doesn't spread in schools, kids don't get it, kids can't spread it, etc, etc. This was pre vaccine and pre treatment. Teachers were dying in other places where schools were open without good mitigation. I would never listen to or trust anyone in APE on health matters after all of that.

Fundamentally they were saying schools could and should be open, and they were correct. You’re on the wrong side of history on this one.

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Anonymous wrote:Where do they stand on boundary changes and dealing with facilities? Now that we’re not in a pandemic and the issue is not whether to have in-person instruction, these are the issues that tend to ignite passions.

I would like to know this too. The APE group that Miranda led was consistently against air quality and health upgrades to facilities so I would not expect much from Miranda on this.

I don't believe APE was against any of those things. It is highly unrealistic to think APS would be able to implement all the "upgrades" SOME people/person were insisting must happen fully before any student ever be let back into a building even to pick up something they may have left in their locker before shutdown. APE (rightly) understood that schools needed to open. That doesn't mean they were anti-health upgrades. Those AEM people insisting schools shouldn't reopen until everything in the facilities was perfect.....were they out in the streets saying the same about stores and gyms bars and restaurants and churches? Are they accusing everyone who supported reopening those things of being "anti health upgrades" or teacher haters?

APE kept saying we don't need this or we don't need that, just open now without any of those things. Kept insisting they were not needed, downplayed Covid by saying kids don't spread it, or it doesn't hurt kids, or long covid isn't a thing. All the lies.

And then they noticeably would not even support masks during the mask wars of Jan 2021.

so yes we know how they feel about health measures.

Ummm in hindsight they were correct.

Oh come on, this again? No APE was 100 WRONG. APE claimed Covid doesn't spread in schools, kids don't get it, kids can't spread it, etc, etc. This was pre vaccine and pre treatment. Teachers were dying in other places where schools were open without good mitigation. I would never listen to or trust anyone in APE on health matters after all of that.

Fundamentally they were saying schools could and should be open, and they were correct. You’re on the wrong side of history on this one.

Based on insufficient data and without regard for many complicating factors - no vaccines, winter surge, etc.

We were all there and remember how irrational and irate they were. Many schools, including APS, prioritized the health of the community during a deadly global pandemic. Once we had vaccines, the kids went back into the classroom. This was a very reasonable approach during this period.

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Anonymous wrote:Where do they stand on boundary changes and dealing with facilities? Now that we’re not in a pandemic and the issue is not whether to have in-person instruction, these are the issues that tend to ignite passions.

I would like to know this too. The APE group that Miranda led was consistently against air quality and health upgrades to facilities so I would not expect much from Miranda on this.

I don't believe APE was against any of those things. It is highly unrealistic to think APS would be able to implement all the "upgrades" SOME people/person were insisting must happen fully before any student ever be let back into a building even to pick up something they may have left in their locker before shutdown. APE (rightly) understood that schools needed to open. That doesn't mean they were anti-health upgrades. Those AEM people insisting schools shouldn't reopen until everything in the facilities was perfect.....were they out in the streets saying the same about stores and gyms bars and restaurants and churches? Are they accusing everyone who supported reopening those things of being "anti health upgrades" or teacher haters?

APE kept saying we don't need this or we don't need that, just open now without any of those things. Kept insisting they were not needed, downplayed Covid by saying kids don't spread it, or it doesn't hurt kids, or long covid isn't a thing. All the lies.

And then they noticeably would not even support masks during the mask wars of Jan 2021.

so yes we know how they feel about health measures.

Ummm in hindsight they were correct.

Oh come on, this again? No APE was 100 WRONG. APE claimed Covid doesn't spread in schools, kids don't get it, kids can't spread it, etc, etc. This was pre vaccine and pre treatment. Teachers were dying in other places where schools were open without good mitigation. I would never listen to or trust anyone in APE on health matters after all of that.

Fundamentally they were saying schools could and should be open, and they were correct. You’re on the wrong side of history on this one.

Based on insufficient data and without regard for many complicating factors - no vaccines, winter surge, etc.

We were all there and remember how irrational and irate they were. Many schools, including APS, prioritized the health of the community during a deadly global pandemic. Once we had vaccines, the kids went back into the classroom. This was a very reasonable approach during this period.

I don’t believe APS would have opened full time in fall 2021 without state intervention. Same for masks in spring 2022.

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Anonymous wrote:Where do they stand on boundary changes and dealing with facilities? Now that we’re not in a pandemic and the issue is not whether to have in-person instruction, these are the issues that tend to ignite passions.

I would like to know this too. The APE group that Miranda led was consistently against air quality and health upgrades to facilities so I would not expect much from Miranda on this.

I don't believe APE was against any of those things. It is highly unrealistic to think APS would be able to implement all the "upgrades" SOME people/person were insisting must happen fully before any student ever be let back into a building even to pick up something they may have left in their locker before shutdown. APE (rightly) understood that schools needed to open. That doesn't mean they were anti-health upgrades. Those AEM people insisting schools shouldn't reopen until everything in the facilities was perfect.....were they out in the streets saying the same about stores and gyms bars and restaurants and churches? Are they accusing everyone who supported reopening those things of being "anti health upgrades" or teacher haters?

APE kept saying we don't need this or we don't need that, just open now without any of those things. Kept insisting they were not needed, downplayed Covid by saying kids don't spread it, or it doesn't hurt kids, or long covid isn't a thing. All the lies.

And then they noticeably would not even support masks during the mask wars of Jan 2021.

so yes we know how they feel about health measures.

Ummm in hindsight they were correct.

Oh come on, this again? No APE was 100 WRONG. APE claimed Covid doesn't spread in schools, kids don't get it, kids can't spread it, etc, etc. This was pre vaccine and pre treatment. Teachers were dying in other places where schools were open without good mitigation. I would never listen to or trust anyone in APE on health matters after all of that.

Fundamentally they were saying schools could and should be open, and they were correct. You’re on the wrong side of history on this one.

Based on insufficient data and without regard for many complicating factors - no vaccines, winter surge, etc.

We were all there and remember how irrational and irate they were. Many schools, including APS, prioritized the health of the community during a deadly global pandemic. Once we had vaccines, the kids went back into the classroom. This was a very reasonable approach during this period.

I don’t believe APS would have opened full time in fall 2021 without state intervention. Same for masks in spring 2022.

Well if you don't believe anything except for what Tucker tells you, there's not much we can do for you.

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Anonymous wrote:Where do they stand on boundary changes and dealing with facilities? Now that we’re not in a pandemic and the issue is not whether to have in-person instruction, these are the issues that tend to ignite passions.

I would like to know this too. The APE group that Miranda led was consistently against air quality and health upgrades to facilities so I would not expect much from Miranda on this.

I don't believe APE was against any of those things. It is highly unrealistic to think APS would be able to implement all the "upgrades" SOME people/person were insisting must happen fully before any student ever be let back into a building even to pick up something they may have left in their locker before shutdown. APE (rightly) understood that schools needed to open. That doesn't mean they were anti-health upgrades. Those AEM people insisting schools shouldn't reopen until everything in the facilities was perfect.....were they out in the streets saying the same about stores and gyms bars and restaurants and churches? Are they accusing everyone who supported reopening those things of being "anti health upgrades" or teacher haters?

APE kept saying we don't need this or we don't need that, just open now without any of those things. Kept insisting they were not needed, downplayed Covid by saying kids don't spread it, or it doesn't hurt kids, or long covid isn't a thing. All the lies.

And then they noticeably would not even support masks during the mask wars of Jan 2021.

so yes we know how they feel about health measures.

Ummm in hindsight they were correct.

Oh come on, this again? No APE was 100 WRONG. APE claimed Covid doesn't spread in schools, kids don't get it, kids can't spread it, etc, etc. This was pre vaccine and pre treatment. Teachers were dying in other places where schools were open without good mitigation. I would never listen to or trust anyone in APE on health matters after all of that.

Fundamentally they were saying schools could and should be open, and they were correct. You’re on the wrong side of history on this one.

Based on insufficient data and without regard for many complicating factors - no vaccines, winter surge, etc.

We were all there and remember how irrational and irate they were. Many schools, including APS, prioritized the health of the community during a deadly global pandemic. Once we had vaccines, the kids went back into the classroom. This was a very reasonable approach during this period.

+1000

No one thought virtual was an excellent educational option, it was the least worst decision at the time until vaccines. I wish APS could have gotten things together sooner like some privates did with hepas and outside lunch and testing and screening and stuff, but that was probably never realistic in a large bureaucracy like APS.

all the people who were screaming at APS and teachers to just open up without all of that in place were absolutely nuts.

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Anonymous wrote:Where do they stand on boundary changes and dealing with facilities? Now that we’re not in a pandemic and the issue is not whether to have in-person instruction, these are the issues that tend to ignite passions.

I would like to know this too. The APE group that Miranda led was consistently against air quality and health upgrades to facilities so I would not expect much from Miranda on this.

I don't believe APE was against any of those things. It is highly unrealistic to think APS would be able to implement all the "upgrades" SOME people/person were insisting must happen fully before any student ever be let back into a building even to pick up something they may have left in their locker before shutdown. APE (rightly) understood that schools needed to open. That doesn't mean they were anti-health upgrades. Those AEM people insisting schools shouldn't reopen until everything in the facilities was perfect.....were they out in the streets saying the same about stores and gyms bars and restaurants and churches? Are they accusing everyone who supported reopening those things of being "anti health upgrades" or teacher haters?

APE kept saying we don't need this or we don't need that, just open now without any of those things. Kept insisting they were not needed, downplayed Covid by saying kids don't spread it, or it doesn't hurt kids, or long covid isn't a thing. All the lies.

And then they noticeably would not even support masks during the mask wars of Jan 2021.

so yes we know how they feel about health measures.

Ummm in hindsight they were correct.

Oh come on, this again? No APE was 100 WRONG. APE claimed Covid doesn't spread in schools, kids don't get it, kids can't spread it, etc, etc. This was pre vaccine and pre treatment. Teachers were dying in other places where schools were open without good mitigation. I would never listen to or trust anyone in APE on health matters after all of that.

Fundamentally they were saying schools could and should be open, and they were correct. You’re on the wrong side of history on this one.

Based on insufficient data and without regard for many complicating factors - no vaccines, winter surge, etc.

We were all there and remember how irrational and irate they were. Many schools, including APS, prioritized the health of the community during a deadly global pandemic. Once we had vaccines, the kids went back into the classroom. This was a very reasonable approach during this period.

I don’t believe APS would have opened full time in fall 2021 without state intervention. Same for masks in spring 2022.

You are wrong. APS was already working to have kids return to the classroom *before* the mandate. This has been documented many times, including earlier on this thread.

And masks became optional a month after Youngkin. So you threw away women’s rights for an extra month without a mask. Hope it was worth it.

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Anonymous wrote:Where do they stand on boundary changes and dealing with facilities? Now that we’re not in a pandemic and the issue is not whether to have in-person instruction, these are the issues that tend to ignite passions.

I would like to know this too. The APE group that Miranda led was consistently against air quality and health upgrades to facilities so I would not expect much from Miranda on this.

I don't believe APE was against any of those things. It is highly unrealistic to think APS would be able to implement all the "upgrades" SOME people/person were insisting must happen fully before any student ever be let back into a building even to pick up something they may have left in their locker before shutdown. APE (rightly) understood that schools needed to open. That doesn't mean they were anti-health upgrades. Those AEM people insisting schools shouldn't reopen until everything in the facilities was perfect.....were they out in the streets saying the same about stores and gyms bars and restaurants and churches? Are they accusing everyone who supported reopening those things of being "anti health upgrades" or teacher haters?

APE kept saying we don't need this or we don't need that, just open now without any of those things. Kept insisting they were not needed, downplayed Covid by saying kids don't spread it, or it doesn't hurt kids, or long covid isn't a thing. All the lies.

And then they noticeably would not even support masks during the mask wars of Jan 2021.

so yes we know how they feel about health measures.

Ummm in hindsight they were correct.

Oh come on, this again? No APE was 100 WRONG. APE claimed Covid doesn't spread in schools, kids don't get it, kids can't spread it, etc, etc. This was pre vaccine and pre treatment. Teachers were dying in other places where schools were open without good mitigation. I would never listen to or trust anyone in APE on health matters after all of that.

Fundamentally they were saying schools could and should be open, and they were correct. You’re on the wrong side of history on this one.

Based on insufficient data and without regard for many complicating factors - no vaccines, winter surge, etc.

We were all there and remember how irrational and irate they were. Many schools, including APS, prioritized the health of the community during a deadly global pandemic. Once we had vaccines, the kids went back into the classroom. This was a very reasonable approach during this period.

I don’t believe APS would have opened full time in fall 2021 without state intervention. Same for masks in spring 2022.

You are wrong. APS was already working to have kids return to the classroom *before* the mandate. This has been documented many times, including earlier on this thread.

And masks became optional a month after Youngkin. So you threw away women’s rights for an extra month without a mask. Hope it was worth it.

Right, masks became optinal almost everywhere last spring even in places where mask requirements were not banned.

What is truly awful is people who supported the ban on mask mandates because now schools cannot require masks at ANY time such as targeted situations where they really should be required, like when kids are symptomatic and waiting to be picked up, in the health clinic, when they return just after a covid infection or when there is an outbreak at their school. It's completely irresponsible and horrible to take away the most effective public health tool to keep kids healthy and in school. But here we are because too many of y'all were irrationally angry.

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Yup and Miranda's group, APE, stood out glaringly from all the other Arlington groups when they did not oppose the state ban on masking, which was overwhelmingly driven by conservatives.

That is just a dealbreaker for me. I don't trust her at all to stand up to the crazies at the state level or to make good decisions for kids and teachers. Because she did not do it then.

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Anonymous wrote:Yup and Miranda's group, APE, stood out glaringly from all the other Arlington groups when they did not oppose the state ban on masking, which was overwhelmingly driven by conservatives.

That is just a dealbreaker for me. I don't trust her at all to stand up to the crazies at the state level or to make good decisions for kids and teachers. Because she did not do it then.

Remind me which horrible things have happened since we stopped wearing masks? Oh, it was totally fine? You just wanted them to virtue signal along with the rest of Arlington?

This is how Democrats keep shooting themselves in the foot.

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Anonymous wrote:In case anyone is wondering how APS teachers feel about a specific group of parents, here is an APS teacher (now former) who put her name on it --


At first, when schools moved to online instruction in the spring of 2020 and parents saw firsthand the hardships teachers were enduring, plaudits poured in for the educators showing remarkable commitment to their profession in a difficult situation they had never trained for. Virtual teaching took much more time to prepare, execute and evaluate. And because students were often not required to turn on their cameras, it was a lot like teaching into a void. But as time crawled on and schools remained closed to in-person instruction, parents became critical, even angry. The hostility parents leveled against teachers was astonishing. In September 2021 alone, 30,000 public school teachers nationwide gave notice. Between August 2020 and August 2021, Florida’s teacher vacancies surged 67 percent, according to a count by the Florida Education Association. In 2021, California’s largest district, Los Angeles Unified, had five times the number of vacancies as in previous years, according to Shannon Haber, a spokeswoman for the district. The number of retirements skyrocketed, and I joined the exodus. I was within a couple of years of my target retirement date, but I left earlier than planned because of the mounting stress around the pandemic and an ever-increasing workload.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/books/2023/03/08/teachers-woes-vulnerable-profession-robbins/?fbclid=IwAR2UZodgy4iGVxCs8_X8Jp-yrhrMPKsHd6lhvFl5CAJ6rpmbqn9jA0FgT1o

The raw, misdirected hostility towards teachers was so crazy. I’m still shocked by what some parents did.

My kid was on teams **in class** when a parent interrupted and started screaming and cursing at the teacher. In front of all of the kids!!! The teacher handled it well, but WTAF?!

Yup. And then a lot of parents who were angry about schools closing took their kids out of APS and left for private schools, including one of our school bd candidates, so this is a problem they created for others to deal with.

I don't know how we repair the damage they did.

Certainly not by choosing a SB member who thought their actions were acceptable enough to partner with them.

Sorry but this entire thread reads as sock puppeting.
I don’t plan to vote, but I’m not sure how you can say someone who 1) doesn’t have children, 2) has never been inside an aps building, and 3) has lived in Arlington for less than a month is more qualified than anyone. Miranda is way more qualified, and if the Arl dems want to stay relevant and continue the endorsement process, Miranda should be the clear favorite.

There are multiple people posting.

He is absolutely less qualified. He also didn’t lead a group that has done so much damage to our community.

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I don't like either of then. But I may take newbie youngster over someone who has really damaged our school system. At least Angelo is probably harmless and it can't hurt to have a fresh perspective from a young person.

Whoops. This was where I wanted to post the above comment. I'm voting for the kid at this moment unless he really offs up. Miranda and her supporters do not represent me at all. She would probably ignore anyone who wasn't APE if she is elected.

Miranda has been involved in some capacity or another well before APE. See Drew and Green Valley. She's done more in APS than at least 2 current board members did before they were elected and her oldest kid isn't even in MS yet. She's talking to ASPHA and others. APS has some real challenges. Write someone if you want, but don't throw a vote at this unserious kid.

Did those two SB members lead a group that had such a negative impact on our community?

I’ll take a kid over someone who thinks so lowly of our teachers that she stood by while members in her group trashed teachers, SB members, administrators, and other parents.

One group alone is not responsible for all the negative impact that has happened.

They are responsible for their own actions which absolutely negatively impacted our community.

Lots of crappy things happened during the pandemic. Parents bullying teachers and others wasn’t one that I expected. Instead of supporting and pulling our community together they spread rage and divisiveness.

Many in the AEM crowd do the same. There are obnoxious parents outside of APE, too.

AEM is just a facebook group. Stop equating with with APE.

APE is an organized lobbying group with a specific membership. APE incorporated, APE has leaders, APE fundraises, APE has a board, APE has a newsletter, APE puts out press releases, takes positions.

so yes it's more than fair to draw conclusions based on one's choice to be part of APE.

That's true. Some people choose to actually DO something (APE) than to just sit at their keyboards griping and judging others (AEM).

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Anonymous wrote:In case anyone is wondering how APS teachers feel about a specific group of parents, here is an APS teacher (now former) who put her name on it --


At first, when schools moved to online instruction in the spring of 2020 and parents saw firsthand the hardships teachers were enduring, plaudits poured in for the educators showing remarkable commitment to their profession in a difficult situation they had never trained for. Virtual teaching took much more time to prepare, execute and evaluate. And because students were often not required to turn on their cameras, it was a lot like teaching into a void. But as time crawled on and schools remained closed to in-person instruction, parents became critical, even angry. The hostility parents leveled against teachers was astonishing. In September 2021 alone, 30,000 public school teachers nationwide gave notice. Between August 2020 and August 2021, Florida’s teacher vacancies surged 67 percent, according to a count by the Florida Education Association. In 2021, California’s largest district, Los Angeles Unified, had five times the number of vacancies as in previous years, according to Shannon Haber, a spokeswoman for the district. The number of retirements skyrocketed, and I joined the exodus. I was within a couple of years of my target retirement date, but I left earlier than planned because of the mounting stress around the pandemic and an ever-increasing workload.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/books/2023/03/08/teachers-woes-vulnerable-profession-robbins/?fbclid=IwAR2UZodgy4iGVxCs8_X8Jp-yrhrMPKsHd6lhvFl5CAJ6rpmbqn9jA0FgT1o

The raw, misdirected hostility towards teachers was so crazy. I’m still shocked by what some parents did.

My kid was on teams **in class** when a parent interrupted and started screaming and cursing at the teacher. In front of all of the kids!!! The teacher handled it well, but WTAF?!

Yup. And then a lot of parents who were angry about schools closing took their kids out of APS and left for private schools, including one of our school bd candidates, so this is a problem they created for others to deal with.

I don't know how we repair the damage they did.

Certainly not by choosing a SB member who thought their actions were acceptable enough to partner with them.

What a slap in the face that would be to our teachers.

*OR* maybe our teachers would be thrilled to have a SB member lobbying for higher pay and smaller class sizes?

Everyone wants these things. But OK, I'll bite. Just how does she plan to pay for that?

How does ANYone plan to pay for them?

Well since you said this is Miranda's platform, does she have an actual plan to pay for them or are they just empty words?

I didn't say that. Different people commenting. Question stands. How does anyone plan to pay for these things? AEM people constantly griping about teacher salaries and calling for raises to compensate for inflation AND step increases. How do they propose paying for them????

the AEM commenters are not running for the school board. Miranda is. Someone said she's advocating for these things and said that in a good way, like we should vote for her for that reason. So then people asked how she plans to pay for it. and then.... crickets.

That is evidence that it isn't a simple problem to solve. If nobody else in this collective of highly educated, all-knowing Arlington community can come up with a solution or even suggestions, it's unrealistic to expect a local SB candidate would fare much better. Throw out some ideas to her and see what she thinks of them.

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Anonymous wrote:In case anyone is wondering how APS teachers feel about a specific group of parents, here is an APS teacher (now former) who put her name on it --


At first, when schools moved to online instruction in the spring of 2020 and parents saw firsthand the hardships teachers were enduring, plaudits poured in for the educators showing remarkable commitment to their profession in a difficult situation they had never trained for. Virtual teaching took much more time to prepare, execute and evaluate. And because students were often not required to turn on their cameras, it was a lot like teaching into a void. But as time crawled on and schools remained closed to in-person instruction, parents became critical, even angry. The hostility parents leveled against teachers was astonishing. In September 2021 alone, 30,000 public school teachers nationwide gave notice. Between August 2020 and August 2021, Florida’s teacher vacancies surged 67 percent, according to a count by the Florida Education Association. In 2021, California’s largest district, Los Angeles Unified, had five times the number of vacancies as in previous years, according to Shannon Haber, a spokeswoman for the district. The number of retirements skyrocketed, and I joined the exodus. I was within a couple of years of my target retirement date, but I left earlier than planned because of the mounting stress around the pandemic and an ever-increasing workload.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/books/2023/03/08/teachers-woes-vulnerable-profession-robbins/?fbclid=IwAR2UZodgy4iGVxCs8_X8Jp-yrhrMPKsHd6lhvFl5CAJ6rpmbqn9jA0FgT1o

The raw, misdirected hostility towards teachers was so crazy. I’m still shocked by what some parents did.

My kid was on teams **in class** when a parent interrupted and started screaming and cursing at the teacher. In front of all of the kids!!! The teacher handled it well, but WTAF?!

Yup. And then a lot of parents who were angry about schools closing took their kids out of APS and left for private schools, including one of our school bd candidates, so this is a problem they created for others to deal with.

I don't know how we repair the damage they did.

Certainly not by choosing a SB member who thought their actions were acceptable enough to partner with them.

Sorry but this entire thread reads as sock puppeting.
I don’t plan to vote, but I’m not sure how you can say someone who 1) doesn’t have children, 2) has never been inside an aps building, and 3) has lived in Arlington for less than a month is more qualified than anyone. Miranda is way more qualified, and if the Arl dems want to stay relevant and continue the endorsement process, Miranda should be the clear favorite.

There are multiple people posting.

He is absolutely less qualified. He also didn’t lead a group that has done so much damage to our community.

+1

I don't like either of then. But I may take newbie youngster over someone who has really damaged our school system. At least Angelo is probably harmless and it can't hurt to have a fresh perspective from a young person.

Whoops. This was where I wanted to post the above comment. I'm voting for the kid at this moment unless he really offs up. Miranda and her supporters do not represent me at all. She would probably ignore anyone who wasn't APE if she is elected.

Miranda has been involved in some capacity or another well before APE. See Drew and Green Valley. She's done more in APS than at least 2 current board members did before they were elected and her oldest kid isn't even in MS yet. She's talking to ASPHA and others. APS has some real challenges. Write someone if you want, but don't throw a vote at this unserious kid.

Did those two SB members lead a group that had such a negative impact on our community?

I’ll take a kid over someone who thinks so lowly of our teachers that she stood by while members in her group trashed teachers, SB members, administrators, and other parents.

One group alone is not responsible for all the negative impact that has happened.

They are responsible for their own actions which absolutely negatively impacted our community.

Lots of crappy things happened during the pandemic. Parents bullying teachers and others wasn’t one that I expected. Instead of supporting and pulling our community together they spread rage and divisiveness.

Many in the AEM crowd do the same. There are obnoxious parents outside of APE, too.

They were not bullying teachers or screaming over people at SB meetings.

No, but their comments to dissenting opinions on an online forum are often not any better. It may not be in person, but the rhetoric can be just as poor.

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Anonymous wrote:Where do they stand on boundary changes and dealing with facilities? Now that we’re not in a pandemic and the issue is not whether to have in-person instruction, these are the issues that tend to ignite passions.

I would like to know this too. The APE group that Miranda led was consistently against air quality and health upgrades to facilities so I would not expect much from Miranda on this.

I don't believe APE was against any of those things. It is highly unrealistic to think APS would be able to implement all the "upgrades" SOME people/person were insisting must happen fully before any student ever be let back into a building even to pick up something they may have left in their locker before shutdown. APE (rightly) understood that schools needed to open. That doesn't mean they were anti-health upgrades. Those AEM people insisting schools shouldn't reopen until everything in the facilities was perfect.....were they out in the streets saying the same about stores and gyms bars and restaurants and churches? Are they accusing everyone who supported reopening those things of being "anti health upgrades" or teacher haters?

APE kept saying we don't need this or we don't need that, just open now without any of those things. Kept insisting they were not needed, downplayed Covid by saying kids don't spread it, or it doesn't hurt kids, or long covid isn't a thing. All the lies.

And then they noticeably would not even support masks during the mask wars of Jan 2021.

so yes we know how they feel about health measures.

Yes, the mask thing was very telling.

I don't trust Miranda to make policy for my kids' health after that.

You won't need to. She would be one board member and one board member does not make policy.

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Anonymous wrote:In case anyone is wondering how APS teachers feel about a specific group of parents, here is an APS teacher (now former) who put her name on it --


At first, when schools moved to online instruction in the spring of 2020 and parents saw firsthand the hardships teachers were enduring, plaudits poured in for the educators showing remarkable commitment to their profession in a difficult situation they had never trained for. Virtual teaching took much more time to prepare, execute and evaluate. And because students were often not required to turn on their cameras, it was a lot like teaching into a void. But as time crawled on and schools remained closed to in-person instruction, parents became critical, even angry. The hostility parents leveled against teachers was astonishing. In September 2021 alone, 30,000 public school teachers nationwide gave notice. Between August 2020 and August 2021, Florida’s teacher vacancies surged 67 percent, according to a count by the Florida Education Association. In 2021, California’s largest district, Los Angeles Unified, had five times the number of vacancies as in previous years, according to Shannon Haber, a spokeswoman for the district. The number of retirements skyrocketed, and I joined the exodus. I was within a couple of years of my target retirement date, but I left earlier than planned because of the mounting stress around the pandemic and an ever-increasing workload.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/books/2023/03/08/teachers-woes-vulnerable-profession-robbins/?fbclid=IwAR2UZodgy4iGVxCs8_X8Jp-yrhrMPKsHd6lhvFl5CAJ6rpmbqn9jA0FgT1o

The raw, misdirected hostility towards teachers was so crazy. I’m still shocked by what some parents did.

My kid was on teams **in class** when a parent interrupted and started screaming and cursing at the teacher. In front of all of the kids!!! The teacher handled it well, but WTAF?!

Yup. And then a lot of parents who were angry about schools closing took their kids out of APS and left for private schools, including one of our school bd candidates, so this is a problem they created for others to deal with.

I don't know how we repair the damage they did.

Certainly not by choosing a SB member who thought their actions were acceptable enough to partner with them.

Sorry but this entire thread reads as sock puppeting.
I don’t plan to vote, but I’m not sure how you can say someone who 1) doesn’t have children, 2) has never been inside an aps building, and 3) has lived in Arlington for less than a month is more qualified than anyone. Miranda is way more qualified, and if the Arl dems want to stay relevant and continue the endorsement process, Miranda should be the clear favorite.

There are multiple people posting.

He is absolutely less qualified. He also didn’t lead a group that has done so much damage to our community.

+1

I don't like either of then. But I may take newbie youngster over someone who has really damaged our school system. At least Angelo is probably harmless and it can't hurt to have a fresh perspective from a young person.

Whoops. This was where I wanted to post the above comment. I'm voting for the kid at this moment unless he really offs up. Miranda and her supporters do not represent me at all. She would probably ignore anyone who wasn't APE if she is elected.

Miranda has been involved in some capacity or another well before APE. See Drew and Green Valley. She's done more in APS than at least 2 current board members did before they were elected and her oldest kid isn't even in MS yet. She's talking to ASPHA and others. APS has some real challenges. Write someone if you want, but don't throw a vote at this unserious kid.

Did those two SB members lead a group that had such a negative impact on our community?

I’ll take a kid over someone who thinks so lowly of our teachers that she stood by while members in her group trashed teachers, SB members, administrators, and other parents.

One group alone is not responsible for all the negative impact that has happened.

They are responsible for their own actions which absolutely negatively impacted our community.

Lots of crappy things happened during the pandemic. Parents bullying teachers and others wasn’t one that I expected. Instead of supporting and pulling our community together they spread rage and divisiveness.

Many in the AEM crowd do the same. There are obnoxious parents outside of APE, too.

They were not bullying teachers or screaming over people at SB meetings.

No, but their comments to dissenting opinions on an online forum are often not any better. It may not be in person, but the rhetoric can be just as poor.

+1 just because they were scared to go in public doesn’t mean they didn’t spew tons of vitriol