LCPS Teacher is not standing up for the pledge

[Anonymous]

LCPS Teacher is not standing up for the pledge, since they turn off the camera doing that time they no longer only the hybrids kids are aware of it and they don't even care.

[Anonymous]

They don’t have to stand, the Supreme Court made that clear decades ago.
Get over it.

[Anonymous]

Apparently OP doesn't care for the Constitution.

[Anonymous]

Students/staff have the OPTION to stand and recite the pledge each day. They are not required to do so. The only requirement is to not be disruptive during that time. Many people don't believe in saying the pledge. I don't recite it as I do not believe we are one nation UNDER GOD. It would be disingenuous for me to stand and recite it. I have two kids - one chooses to recite it and the other chooses not to (she does stand for it, though, but that is her choice).

[Anonymous]

So?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They don’t have to stand, the Supreme Court made that clear decades ago.
Get over it.

+1 This isn't North Korea. Yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So?

That's my reaction, too. No one is required to stand for or recite the pledge of allegiance. Period.

"The case is made difficult not because the principles of its decision are obscure but because the flag involved is our own. Nevertheless, we apply the limitations of the Constitution with no fear that freedom to be intellectually and spiritually diverse or even contrary will disintegrate the social organization. To believe that patriotism will not flourish if patriotic ceremonies are voluntary and spontaneous instead of a compulsory routine is to make an unflattering estimate of the appeal of our institutions to free minds. We can have intellectual individualism and the rich cultural diversities that we owe to exceptional minds only at the price of occasional eccentricity and abnormal attitudes. When they are so harmless to others or to the State as those we deal with here, the price is not too great. But freedom to differ is not limited to things that do not matter much. That would be a mere shadow of freedom. The test of its substance is the right to differ as to things that touch the heart of the existing order. If there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein."

West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette (1943)

[Anonymous]

I wish they'd get rid of it altogether

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wish they'd get rid of it altogether

+1000

[Anonymous]

Maybe they have knee issues?
What's the big deal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They don’t have to stand, the Supreme Court made that clear decades ago.
Get over it.

+1 This isn't North Korea. Yet.

Was just about to post this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They don’t have to stand, the Supreme Court made that clear decades ago.
Get over it.

This.
I’m 42. Growing up, there were 2 children in my elementary classes who did not recite the pledge due to religious reasons. They sat quietly at their desks. This was in rural VA, and no one made a big deal of it. This isn’t something new, OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They don’t have to stand, the Supreme Court made that clear decades ago.
Get over it.

This.
I’m 42. Growing up, there were 2 children in my elementary classes who did not recite the pledge due to religious reasons. They sat quietly at their desks. This was in rural VA, and no one made a big deal of it. This isn’t something new, OP.

I am old school I guess, I remember back in Hamilton Elementary School in the early 90s there was a student that never stood and the 5th grade teacher told him that he has to stand, he doesn't have to recite it, but he needs to stand as of respect, I guess its different now. I grew up that we need to stand and recite the National Anthem and the Pledge even while we are at home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They don’t have to stand, the Supreme Court made that clear decades ago.
Get over it.

This.
I’m 42. Growing up, there were 2 children in my elementary classes who did not recite the pledge due to religious reasons. They sat quietly at their desks. This was in rural VA, and no one made a big deal of it. This isn’t something new, OP.

I am old school I guess, I remember back in Hamilton Elementary School in the early 90s there was a student that never stood and the 5th grade teacher told him that he has to stand, he doesn't have to recite it, but he needs to stand as of respect, I guess its different now. I grew up that we need to stand and recite the National Anthem and the Pledge even while we are at home.

That's totally fine if those are your values for you and your children. But the law says that those values cannot be imposed on the rest of us. Your 5th grade teacher was wrong then, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They don’t have to stand, the Supreme Court made that clear decades ago.
Get over it.

This.
I’m 42. Growing up, there were 2 children in my elementary classes who did not recite the pledge due to religious reasons. They sat quietly at their desks. This was in rural VA, and no one made a big deal of it. This isn’t something new, OP.

I am old school I guess, I remember back in Hamilton Elementary School in the early 90s there was a student that never stood and the 5th grade teacher told him that he has to stand, he doesn't have to recite it, but he needs to stand as of respect, I guess its different now. I grew up that we need to stand and recite the National Anthem and the Pledge even while we are at home.

The teacher was wrong. There's a Supreme Court opinion from 1943 explaining that people cannot be compelled to participate in the pledge. Is that "old school" enough for you?