ECNL moving to school year part 2

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:So just to be 1000% clear before age guy misinterprets what they're saying.

ECNLdude plans to roster Aug birthdays on grade down teams for league them play them grade correct (up) for showcases. This has NOTHING to do with older players playing down at showcases.

While this does address the alignment issue with college coaches. The problem is the player will be used to competing at a lower level. Then suddenly they'll be expected to play up at their correct grade level in front of college scouts. This is not a situation that typically ends well.

This is a hack so clubs will look good in league at Aug birthdays expense. Just play Aug birthdays on their correct grade in school team and you do t have to deal with all the nonsese and workarounds. And Aug birthdays wont get ignored by college coaches because they're playing on a grade down team.

He actually does cover playing grade down at showcases. This occurs the second year after the season when the Aug birthday who played up (on their correct grade level) in showcaees. In the next season they play in the same Showcase level again (down a grade). This lets them be seen 2x at the grade level (Sophmore) that recruiters are most interested in. Its kind of confusing and I agree with you that its much easier for clubs to play Aug birthdays at their correct grade level.

But whats the advantage? You might look better playing against younger players but you're playing on a grade down team and recruiters will ignore you at that point.

Not that Im advocating this but it would make more sense for an Aug birthday to play up on thier correct grade in school team. Then participate in sophmore showcases generating interest from college coaches. Then the next year when their Junior grade in school is playing in Junior level showcases. They play down in a Sophmore level Showcase again blowing everyone up because they're used to playing older and faster players.

Except college coaches said they don't care about your age or age group, so no nobody ignored. The podcast even talked about a great strategy of playing on age for club and grade for showcases. It's to use RAE and not have it work against you.

College coaches only care about grade in school. But they call grade in school graduating year.

Stop saying wrong incorrect things.

No, I got it Right. Can you find any quotes stating college coaches will ignore misaligned kids or did you just make that up?

From Eastside Fc

Will this impact college recruiting?
The new two-year age group structure will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential—not the exact age grouping of their club team.

[Anonymous]

100% correct

This one is for next fall when SY starts.

U18/U19; 8/1/2007 - 7/31/2009 ~ Senior
U17; 8/1/2009 - 7/31/2010 ~ Senior
U16; 8/1/2010 - 7/31/2011 ~ Junior
U15; 8/1/2011 - 7/31/2012 ~ Sophomore
U14; 8/1/2012 - 7/31/2013 ~ Freshman
U13; 8/1/2013 - 7/31/2014 ~ 8th
U12; 8/1/2014 - 7/31/2015 ~ 7th
U11; 8/1/2015 - 7/31/2016 ~ 6th
U10; 8/1/2016 - 7/31/2017~ 5th
U9; 8/1/2017 - 7/31/2018 ~ 4th
U8; 8/1/2018 - 7/31/2019 ~ 3rd
U7; 8/1/2019 - 7/31/2020 ~ 2nd
U6; 8/1/2020 - 7/31/2021 ~ 1st

Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely Freshman or younger

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The smaller version

8/1/2009 - 7/31 = Senior
8/1/2009 - 7/31 = Junior

8/1/2011 - 7/31 = Sophomore
8/1/2012 - 7/31 = Freshman
8/1/2013 - 7/31 = 8th
8/1/2014 - 7/31 = 7th
8/1/2015 - 7/31 = 6th
8/1/2016 - 7/31= 5th
8/1/2017 - 7/31 = 4th
8/1/2018 - 7/31 = 3rd
8/1/2019 - 7/31 = 2nd
8/1/2020 - 7/31 = 1st
8/1/2021 - 7/31 = Kindergarten

More like the wronger version for multiple reasons.

FYI, it's your version.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DD made her u14 ECNL team she is born in July 2013 and now will be one of the youngest on the team. My problem is that she is still a 6th grader and will be a 7th grader in the fall. She will eventually have to play down? Is it at u17/u18??

Let's unravel this one...

11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 7th grade

Your kid was born 7/2013 and will be in 7th grade this fall.

This means you held your kid back or started then a year late which is the same thing as holding them back.

Pretty simple. Your kid needs to play u14 this fall because of your kids 7/2013 birthday.

Wasn't the question.

Was the correct answer. But, ill be more clear since you dont want to look at the matrix.

Your kid will be a grade in school below everyone else on their club team. Until their Senior year when u18/u19 are combined. You did this to them by holding them back.

Your kid will be able to play with players their grade in HS soccer. This is because HS soccer is GY and theres different eligibility rules.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The smaller version

8/1/2009 - 7/31 = Senior
8/1/2009 - 7/31 = Junior

8/1/2011 - 7/31 = Sophomore
8/1/2012 - 7/31 = Freshman
8/1/2013 - 7/31 = 8th
8/1/2014 - 7/31 = 7th
8/1/2015 - 7/31 = 6th
8/1/2016 - 7/31= 5th
8/1/2017 - 7/31 = 4th
8/1/2018 - 7/31 = 3rd
8/1/2019 - 7/31 = 2nd
8/1/2020 - 7/31 = 1st
8/1/2021 - 7/31 = Kindergarten

More like the wronger version for multiple reasons.

FYI, it's your version.

FYI its wrong. Why you post things like that nobody knows.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:100% correct

This one is for next fall when SY starts.

U18/U19; 8/1/2007 - 7/31/2009 ~ Senior
U17; 8/1/2009 - 7/31/2010 ~ Senior
U16; 8/1/2010 - 7/31/2011 ~ Junior
U15; 8/1/2011 - 7/31/2012 ~ Sophomore
U14; 8/1/2012 - 7/31/2013 ~ Freshman
U13; 8/1/2013 - 7/31/2014 ~ 8th
U12; 8/1/2014 - 7/31/2015 ~ 7th
U11; 8/1/2015 - 7/31/2016 ~ 6th
U10; 8/1/2016 - 7/31/2017~ 5th
U9; 8/1/2017 - 7/31/2018 ~ 4th
U8; 8/1/2018 - 7/31/2019 ~ 3rd
U7; 8/1/2019 - 7/31/2020 ~ 2nd
U6; 8/1/2020 - 7/31/2021 ~ 1st

Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely Freshman or younger

So ridiculously wrong its pathetic

[Anonymous]

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 7th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten

Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade

[Anonymous]

Its amazing how many hacked upband wrong matrixes age guy has posted.

All I. an attempt to confuse parents and abvocate playing down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Its amazing how many hacked upband wrong matrixes age guy has posted.

All I. an attempt to confuse parents and abvocate playing down.

I see it as well. If I can see it, I assume others do to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DD made her u14 ECNL team she is born in July 2013 and now will be one of the youngest on the team. My problem is that she is still a 6th grader and will be a 7th grader in the fall. She will eventually have to play down? Is it at u17/u18??

Good news. If you followed what someone wrote a few days ago, it sounds like showcases will go graduation year for the top few age groups by the time you child is older. Best of luck!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its amazing how many hacked upband wrong matrixes age guy has posted.

All I. an attempt to confuse parents and abvocate playing down.

I see it as well. If I can see it, I assume others do to.

Thank you

Knowledge is power. Clubs want parents to be sheep that they control and tell what to do. Its ironic because you're the paying customer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 7th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten

Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade

Simple, accurate, no fake stuff, no spin

Fall 2026 - Spring 2027

U9 Aug 1, 2017 – July 31, 2018
U10 Aug 1, 2016 – July 31, 2017
U11 Aug 1, 2015 – July 31, 2016
U12 Aug 1, 2014 – July 31, 2015
U13 Aug 1, 2013 – July 31, 2014
U14 Aug 1, 2012 – July 31, 2013
U15 Aug 1, 2011 – July 31, 2012
U16 Aug 1, 2010 – July 31, 2011
U17 Aug 1, 2009 – July 31, 2010
U18 Aug 1, 2008 – July 31, 2009
U19 Aug 1, 2007 - July 31, 2008

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DD made her u14 ECNL team she is born in July 2013 and now will be one of the youngest on the team. My problem is that she is still a 6th grader and will be a 7th grader in the fall. She will eventually have to play down? Is it at u17/u18??

Good news. If you followed what someone wrote a few days ago, it sounds like showcases will go graduation year for the top few age groups by the time you child is older. Best of luck!

Hahahaha yea, heres an unsubstantiated rumor run with basis on fact. It should turn out great.

The life of a holdback parent always trying to pretend to be a younger grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 7th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten

Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade

Simple, accurate, no fake stuff, no spin

Fall 2026 - Spring 2027

U9 Aug 1, 2017 – July 31, 2018
U10 Aug 1, 2016 – July 31, 2017
U11 Aug 1, 2015 – July 31, 2016
U12 Aug 1, 2014 – July 31, 2015
U13 Aug 1, 2013 – July 31, 2014
U14 Aug 1, 2012 – July 31, 2013
U15 Aug 1, 2011 – July 31, 2012
U16 Aug 1, 2010 – July 31, 2011
U17 Aug 1, 2009 – July 31, 2010
U18 Aug 1, 2008 – July 31, 2009
U19 Aug 1, 2007 - July 31, 2008

Correct. its also the same thing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DD made her u14 ECNL team she is born in July 2013 and now will be one of the youngest on the team. My problem is that she is still a 6th grader and will be a 7th grader in the fall. She will eventually have to play down? Is it at u17/u18??

Good news. If you followed what someone wrote a few days ago, it sounds like showcases will go graduation year for the top few age groups by the time you child is older. Best of luck!

Oh so the fact that she had a late start at school and now is playing a graduation year up will eventually be to her advantage meaning when time comes to perform at showcases she will have to play down. Ecnl allows that? Of course I'm assuming she will stay at that level. Is the same at GA?