Has Duran gone mad? (APS)

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me, or are others getting the sense that many teachers will battle returning to class even if we had every safety measure in place. Feels like it will never be enough.

No. I think if the numbers come down, we put air filters in schools, implement regular testing, and provide n95 masks, teachers will return.

That’s not their official position.

That’s what needs to happen to open schools safely. I wouldn’t push for anyone to be back in schools without all of that.

What if we had the vaccine? I feel like vaccines and masks should suffice for a safe return.

Vaccines for the kids?

Uh no they aren’t approved yet. Vaccines for teachers. Families have choice so they don’t have to send their kids if they don’t want without a vaccine. Teachers don’t have a choice if they need to keep their job so we need the vaccine before requiring to be sent in.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me, or are others getting the sense that many teachers will battle returning to class even if we had every safety measure in place. Feels like it will never be enough.

No. I think if the numbers come down, we put air filters in schools, implement regular testing, and provide n95 masks, teachers will return.

That’s not their official position.

That’s what needs to happen to open schools safely. I wouldn’t push for anyone to be back in schools without all of that.

What if we had the vaccine? I feel like vaccines and masks should suffice for a safe return.

Vaccines for the kids?

Uh no they aren’t approved yet. Vaccines for teachers. Families have choice so they don’t have to send their kids if they don’t want without a vaccine. Teachers don’t have a choice if they need to keep their job so we need the vaccine before requiring to be sent in.

Are you the PP talking about the “safe return”?

Safe for whom?

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me, or are others getting the sense that many teachers will battle returning to class even if we had every safety measure in place. Feels like it will never be enough.

No. I think if the numbers come down, we put air filters in schools, implement regular testing, and provide n95 masks, teachers will return.

That’s not their official position.

That’s what needs to happen to open schools safely. I wouldn’t push for anyone to be back in schools without all of that.

What if we had the vaccine? I feel like vaccines and masks should suffice for a safe return.

Vaccines for the kids?

Uh no they aren’t approved yet. Vaccines for teachers. Families have choice so they don’t have to send their kids if they don’t want without a vaccine. Teachers don’t have a choice if they need to keep their job so we need the vaccine before requiring to be sent in.

Are you the PP talking about the “safe return”?

Safe for whom?

No I’m not. I’m the one who said I would feel better going in with a vaccine and a guarantee all kids who came have to wear masks.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me, or are others getting the sense that many teachers will battle returning to class even if we had every safety measure in place. Feels like it will never be enough.

That’s my sense too. If we don’t get schools reopened this year, I expect teachers will fight for them to remain closed next year too.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me, or are others getting the sense that many teachers will battle returning to class even if we had every safety measure in place. Feels like it will never be enough.

That’s my sense too. If we don’t get schools reopened this year, I expect teachers will fight for them to remain closed next year too.

Why though?? Is it because they are too comfortable WFH? I just can't figure out why so many teachers are making the return extremely difficult.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me, or are others getting the sense that many teachers will battle returning to class even if we had every safety measure in place. Feels like it will never be enough.

When your life is the one at stake then you'll get to decide what is "enough." I don't blame the teachers one bit for advocating for themselves. If they don't advocate for their health and safety then no one else will.

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Look you need to stop looking at a Facebook parent group as if they have any power, they can’t make up any conditions of employment but to answer your question, no I do not trust all my fellow staff to be safe and wear masks faithfully. Plenty of teachers are living life as usual, traveling, lax with masks. They’re the ones least worried about going back but yeah we all have to work with them even when we are really careful.

Correct. I teach with a team of much younger teachers and they are taking risks with travel and going out that make me extremely uncomfortable. I don’t feel lie I can work closely with them with their behavior and doing so puts mr at risk. Not to mention the kids aspect.

I'm a parent and I don't trust the other families. So many are traveling, allowing kids into each others homes to hang out unmasked. These are the ones who will be in school. Assume the careful ones will stay virtual.

+1 Another parent concurring. Some of the behaviors I am seeing with other families makes me very worried about the safety of reopening schools...as in, it won't be safe.

Exact same experience. People who think it's "safe" to open schools under current conditions also lack appropriate judgement in other areas of COVID risk assessment.

x1000 for the three parents. I completely agree with you, and I especially appreciate the last assessment that is bolded.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me, or are others getting the sense that many teachers will battle returning to class even if we had every safety measure in place. Feels like it will never be enough.

When your life is the one at stake then you'll get to decide what is "enough." I don't blame the teachers one bit for advocating for themselves. If they don't advocate for their health and safety then no one else will.

Not true - there are lots of parents and groups advocating for **Schools** to open safely. My concern is that it will never be good enough for many teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me, or are others getting the sense that many teachers will battle returning to class even if we had every safety measure in place. Feels like it will never be enough.

No. I think if the numbers come down, we put air filters in schools, implement regular testing, and provide n95 masks, teachers will return.

That’s not their official position.

That’s what needs to happen to open schools safely. I wouldn’t push for anyone to be back in schools without all of that.

What if we had the vaccine? I feel like vaccines and masks should suffice for a safe return.

I don't. Nothing has been proven that we can't transfer the germs from our hair/clothing/person to other people. I don't think any of us, kids or their teachers, should be exposed to people who might contaminate us and then we bring the virus home to our families.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me, or are others getting the sense that many teachers will battle returning to class even if we had every safety measure in place. Feels like it will never be enough.

When your life is the one at stake then you'll get to decide what is "enough." I don't blame the teachers one bit for advocating for themselves. If they don't advocate for their health and safety then no one else will.

Not true - there are lots of parents and groups advocating for **Schools** to open safely. My concern is that it will never be good enough for many teachers.

Buuuuuuut, **Schools** are open. They're just not open in a way you like; DL is **School.**

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. 19 cases in a preschool. That IS significant. How can that be if they are staying 6 feet and wearing masks?

THEY ARENT, welcome to what teachers have been saying for months. Mitigation does not work once you have too many kids to meaningfully monitor it constantly.

pretty sure our elementary teachers aren't changing diapers and putting our kids down for naps, etc...

Nope, we will be in close proximity to help with a math problem, help with the proper way to hold a pencil or scissors, or view an unknown word from a book, just to name a few.

DP. But you’ve already told us you won’t be, that hybrid will be a terrible environment specifically because you won’t be allowed to do those things. Which is it?

Different teacher. I’m not elementary but I can say 100-% I’m not going to a kids desk and they’re not coming to mine in school. I’m not breaking that 6 feet because if I do and later get CoVID, they’ll claim I couldn’t have gotten it at school since the 6 foot protocol exists.

+1 As a parent I applaud that. I don't think you should go within 6' of any student and I think that every student should have a mask on 100% of the time. I cannot believe teachers will be asked/voluntold to return to school when it is still so unsafe.

How do you know it’s unsafe?

??? Because I read the numbers posted every day on WaPo's website about how many people are infected in our area and how many have died. I don't make a wish and think it is true like you seem to do.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. 19 cases in a preschool. That IS significant. How can that be if they are staying 6 feet and wearing masks?

Sigh. Because "six feet and masks" HELPS, but is far from 100%. They are not a magic wand.

Prolonged indoor gatherings are unsafe, period.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me, or are others getting the sense that many teachers will battle returning to class even if we had every safety measure in place. Feels like it will never be enough.

No. I think if the numbers come down, we put air filters in schools, implement regular testing, and provide n95 masks, teachers will return.

That’s not their official position.

That’s what needs to happen to open schools safely. I wouldn’t push for anyone to be back in schools without all of that.

What if we had the vaccine? I feel like vaccines and masks should suffice for a safe return.

I don't. Nothing has been proven that we can't transfer the germs from our hair/clothing/person to other people. I don't think any of us, kids or their teachers, should be exposed to people who might contaminate us and then we bring the virus home to our families.

Sounds like you should live in a bubble forever..

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me, or are others getting the sense that many teachers will battle returning to class even if we had every safety measure in place. Feels like it will never be enough.

No. I think if the numbers come down, we put air filters in schools, implement regular testing, and provide n95 masks, teachers will return.

That’s not their official position.

That’s what needs to happen to open schools safely. I wouldn’t push for anyone to be back in schools without all of that.

What if we had the vaccine? I feel like vaccines and masks should suffice for a safe return.

I don't. Nothing has been proven that we can't transfer the germs from our hair/clothing/person to other people. I don't think any of us, kids or their teachers, should be exposed to people who might contaminate us and then we bring the virus home to our families.

If you are a teacher, please quit. Students don’t need paranoid teachers like you. If you are this paranoid about something that has never been deemed a risk, what other paranoias do you have? There is no way in every day life someone with your level of paranoia and anxiety is able to mask it. Feel free to consular a medical doctor for more information and treatment.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me, or are others getting the sense that many teachers will battle returning to class even if we had every safety measure in place. Feels like it will never be enough.

No. I think if the numbers come down, we put air filters in schools, implement regular testing, and provide n95 masks, teachers will return.

That’s not their official position.

That’s what needs to happen to open schools safely. I wouldn’t push for anyone to be back in schools without all of that.

What if we had the vaccine? I feel like vaccines and masks should suffice for a safe return.

I don't. Nothing has been proven that we can't transfer the germs from our hair/clothing/person to other people. I don't think any of us, kids or their teachers, should be exposed to people who might contaminate us and then we bring the virus home to our families.

Good thing you’re not making decisions. Your post is bathsh#t insane. Nobody is waiting for your scenario.