"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests

[Anonymous]

The reason they are bad is that they were not written by people who understand students.

[Anonymous]

That still doesn't make the Common Core standards a federal effort. They were not a federal effort, and they remain not a federal effort.

Good. The feds can keep counting beans and we'll keep teaching the kids. Oh, and send money for the NCLB tests. Then we'll all be good, okay?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The reason they are bad is that they were not written by people who understand students.

Again, that's an attack on the process, not on the standards. Which standards are bad, and in what way are they bad?

[Anonymous]

When you have people going to their local school boards to complain, which way do you think the local school board will go? Do you think they will side with the feds or with the people who elected them?

Actually, I mean will they side with the state standards that were adopted with a lot of pressure from politicians and big business and support from the feds or with the local citizens?

[Anonymous]

Which standards are bad, and in what way are they bad?

Please document the results of testing and/or piloting of these standards.

[Anonymous]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2013/01/29/a-tough-critique-of-common-core-on-early-childhood-education/

My expertise is in Early Childhood. Here is an article that summarizes the problems. However, many teachers are complaining about upper level standards, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Which standards are bad, and in what way are they bad?

Please document the results of testing and/or piloting of these standards.

No, that's process again. Which standards are bad, and in what way are they bad?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

When you have people going to their local school boards to complain, which way do you think the local school board will go? Do you think they will side with the feds or with the people who elected them?

Actually, I mean will they side with the state standards that were adopted with a lot of pressure from politicians and big business and support from the feds or with the local citizens?

They will side with the local citizens. Is that a good thing? Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't.

http://ncse.com/creationism/legal/intelligent-design-trial-kitzmiller-v-dover

[Anonymous]

Watch this starting at about 19:00. Maybe you will get what the huge underlying problem is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjxBClx01jc

[Anonymous]

They will side with the local citizens. Is that a good thing? Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't.

http://ncse.com/creationism/legal/intelligent-design-trial-kitzmiller-v-dover

And you would punish the many for the errors of a few?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

They will side with the local citizens. Is that a good thing? Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't.

http://ncse.com/creationism/legal/intelligent-design-trial-kitzmiller-v-dover

And you would punish the many for the errors of a few?

I don't understand. Who is punishing whom for what?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Watch this starting at about 19:00. Maybe you will get what the huge underlying problem is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjxBClx01jc

Could you summarize, please?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Which standards are bad, and in what way are they bad?

Please document the results of testing and/or piloting of these standards.

How exactly would you test a standard?

Let's say a state standard is set that, for example, students should be able to multiply 2 digit numbers by the end of 4th grade with accuracy. How can you pilot that standard?

Have two groups -- some that have this as a standard expected of them, and a control group where kids aren't expected to be able multiply 2 digit numbers with accuracy by the end of 4th grade?

At the end of the year, would you test both groups to see which can multiply 2-digit numbers better? How would that be a good test of the standard? Doesn't it stand to reason that instruction would be focused on multiplying 2 digit numbers in the first group, since it was a standard for that group? So really you would be testing not the standard but the curriculum being used.

Explain how you would test a standard, because I really don't get it. I get testing curriculum and teaching methods. But he standard expectation at each grade level is essentially something that people just set. There's no testing possible, and standards haven't ever been 'tested" in this way before.

[Anonymous]

How exactly would you test a standard?

Let's say a state standard is set that, for example, students should be able to multiply 2 digit numbers by the end of 4th grade with accuracy. How can you pilot that standard?

Have two groups -- some that have this as a standard expected of them, and a control group where kids aren't expected to be able multiply 2 digit numbers with accuracy by the end of 4th grade?

At the end of the year, would you test both groups to see which can multiply 2-digit numbers better? How would that be a good test of the standard? Doesn't it stand to reason that instruction would be focused on multiplying 2 digit numbers in the first group, since it was a standard for that group? So really you would be testing not the standard but the curriculum being used.

Explain how you would test a standard, because I really don't get it. I get testing curriculum and teaching methods. But he standard expectation at each grade level is essentially something that people just set. There's no testing possible, and standards haven't ever been 'tested" in this way before.

That's not quite the way it works. So, you don't want a study. You don't think the process is important. What is your rationale for defending these standards?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

That's not quite the way it works. So, you don't want a study. You don't think the process is important. What is your rationale for defending these standards?

So, how does it work? How would you test a standard?

Also, you are responding to multiple posters.