Connecticut Ave bike lanes are back!

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Anonymous wrote:“Not to mention that bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue would INCREASE the carrying capacity of Connecticut Avenue.“

This is mendacious spin at a truly Trumpy tier.


Single occupancy vehicles are the least efficient method of getting people from one place to another. Mass transit and bikes are many times more efficient. So if planners and engineers redesign roads to priorities mass transit and bikes over cars, then by definition, the carrying capacity will increase.

Denying that is actually Trumpian.


Bicycles are literally single occupancy vehicles


And slow ones at that.


The idea that biking 6-10 miles each way from NOW DC to downtown is a realistic option for many commuters is simply false. Between the need to carry stuff to and from work, the need to be dressed appropriately and clean at the office, the physical abilities required to bike those miles, the lack of flexibility in terms of pre and post work errands, appointments, and pick-ups, and the time commitment involved, biking is not a realistic commuter option for most people. Facts are facts.




Bike commuting has been "a thing" for decades and, oh my, most of the newer buildings have showers and lockers so biking commuters can clean up before work. This has been a norm for years.

And, it doesn't need to be realistic for "most people" but if it realistic and safe FOR ENOUGH PEOPLE, then the overall impact on road space will be positively felt by the people who don't have the option. Motorists should be supporting safe bike infrastructure to make more room for themselves.

You refute yourself in your own post. It’s been a thing for decades. There has been a lot of investment in facilities and infrastructure. Yet hardly anyone does it. One more bike lane isn’t going to get people to commute on their bikes. Sorry.


The bike lanes would not be solely for commuters. It would be for your neighbors who would like to bike from your neighborhood to another for errands and vice verse for people from other neighborhoods to come to yours (and not take up any of your precious parking) - it would also be for tourists to go to the zoo and for kids to go to school.

Hardly anyone commutes by bike. Hardly anyone makes personal trips during the day by any mode of transportation. These are just facts.

Want to make the case for weekend recreation? Sure, that could make sense but then Connecticut Ave would not be the focus. Leafy and shaded Reno with less traffic would be much better and also provide access to Rock Creek Park trails via existing bike lanes on Tilden and Calvert.

You keep repeating the same nonsense, but the facts don’t support anything you say. Furthermore, if you’re the same PP who thinks people can just leave their cars for weeks in Connecticut with no issue, you obviously don’t live in the area either.

Not sure what your deal is but it’s getting 100% boring at this stage.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:“Not to mention that bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue would INCREASE the carrying capacity of Connecticut Avenue.“

This is mendacious spin at a truly Trumpy tier.


Single occupancy vehicles are the least efficient method of getting people from one place to another. Mass transit and bikes are many times more efficient. So if planners and engineers redesign roads to priorities mass transit and bikes over cars, then by definition, the carrying capacity will increase.

Denying that is actually Trumpian.


Bicycles are literally single occupancy vehicles


And slow ones at that.


The idea that biking 6-10 miles each way from NOW DC to downtown is a realistic option for many commuters is simply false. Between the need to carry stuff to and from work, the need to be dressed appropriately and clean at the office, the physical abilities required to bike those miles, the lack of flexibility in terms of pre and post work errands, appointments, and pick-ups, and the time commitment involved, biking is not a realistic commuter option for most people. Facts are facts.




Bike commuting has been "a thing" for decades and, oh my, most of the newer buildings have showers and lockers so biking commuters can clean up before work. This has been a norm for years.

And, it doesn't need to be realistic for "most people" but if it realistic and safe FOR ENOUGH PEOPLE, then the overall impact on road space will be positively felt by the people who don't have the option. Motorists should be supporting safe bike infrastructure to make more room for themselves.

You refute yourself in your own post. It’s been a thing for decades. There has been a lot of investment in facilities and infrastructure. Yet hardly anyone does it. One more bike lane isn’t going to get people to commute on their bikes. Sorry.


Before COVID, there were a lot of people doing it. Work from home kind of changed things a little.

False. “Lots of people” were not commuting by bike pre-COVID.

This is where things get boring. Because I will ask you to provide data and there is a lot of data about this that all says the same thing: very few people commuted by bike at any point ever. But instead of referring to officially sources you’ll talk about an anecdote about the bike parking at your office or provide aggregated bike share usage.

Just stop already and spare us all. It’s a tired charade. Seriously.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“Not to mention that bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue would INCREASE the carrying capacity of Connecticut Avenue.“

This is mendacious spin at a truly Trumpy tier.


Single occupancy vehicles are the least efficient method of getting people from one place to another. Mass transit and bikes are many times more efficient. So if planners and engineers redesign roads to priorities mass transit and bikes over cars, then by definition, the carrying capacity will increase.

Denying that is actually Trumpian.


Bicycles are literally single occupancy vehicles


And slow ones at that.


The idea that biking 6-10 miles each way from NOW DC to downtown is a realistic option for many commuters is simply false. Between the need to carry stuff to and from work, the need to be dressed appropriately and clean at the office, the physical abilities required to bike those miles, the lack of flexibility in terms of pre and post work errands, appointments, and pick-ups, and the time commitment involved, biking is not a realistic commuter option for most people. Facts are facts.




Bike commuting has been "a thing" for decades and, oh my, most of the newer buildings have showers and lockers so biking commuters can clean up before work. This has been a norm for years.

And, it doesn't need to be realistic for "most people" but if it realistic and safe FOR ENOUGH PEOPLE, then the overall impact on road space will be positively felt by the people who don't have the option. Motorists should be supporting safe bike infrastructure to make more room for themselves.

You refute yourself in your own post. It’s been a thing for decades. There has been a lot of investment in facilities and infrastructure. Yet hardly anyone does it. One more bike lane isn’t going to get people to commute on their bikes. Sorry.


Lots of people can't/don't drive ---> Nonetheless, we should continue to prioritize cars!

Lots of people can't/don't bike ---> NO BIKE LANES, BIKES ARE THE WORST, EVERYONE HATES THEM, CARS 4 EVAH.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“Not to mention that bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue would INCREASE the carrying capacity of Connecticut Avenue.“

This is mendacious spin at a truly Trumpy tier.


Single occupancy vehicles are the least efficient method of getting people from one place to another. Mass transit and bikes are many times more efficient. So if planners and engineers redesign roads to priorities mass transit and bikes over cars, then by definition, the carrying capacity will increase.

Denying that is actually Trumpian.


Bicycles are literally single occupancy vehicles


And slow ones at that.


The idea that biking 6-10 miles each way from NOW DC to downtown is a realistic option for many commuters is simply false. Between the need to carry stuff to and from work, the need to be dressed appropriately and clean at the office, the physical abilities required to bike those miles, the lack of flexibility in terms of pre and post work errands, appointments, and pick-ups, and the time commitment involved, biking is not a realistic commuter option for most people. Facts are facts.




Bike commuting has been "a thing" for decades and, oh my, most of the newer buildings have showers and lockers so biking commuters can clean up before work. This has been a norm for years.

And, it doesn't need to be realistic for "most people" but if it realistic and safe FOR ENOUGH PEOPLE, then the overall impact on road space will be positively felt by the people who don't have the option. Motorists should be supporting safe bike infrastructure to make more room for themselves.

You refute yourself in your own post. It’s been a thing for decades. There has been a lot of investment in facilities and infrastructure. Yet hardly anyone does it. One more bike lane isn’t going to get people to commute on their bikes. Sorry.


Lots of people can't/don't drive ---> Nonetheless, we should continue to prioritize cars!

Lots of people can't/don't bike ---> NO BIKE LANES, BIKES ARE THE WORST, EVERYONE HATES THEM, CARS 4 EVAH.


Those two numbers are not even in the same galaxy.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“Not to mention that bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue would INCREASE the carrying capacity of Connecticut Avenue.“

This is mendacious spin at a truly Trumpy tier.


Single occupancy vehicles are the least efficient method of getting people from one place to another. Mass transit and bikes are many times more efficient. So if planners and engineers redesign roads to priorities mass transit and bikes over cars, then by definition, the carrying capacity will increase.

Denying that is actually Trumpian.


Bicycles are literally single occupancy vehicles


And slow ones at that.


The idea that biking 6-10 miles each way from NOW DC to downtown is a realistic option for many commuters is simply false. Between the need to carry stuff to and from work, the need to be dressed appropriately and clean at the office, the physical abilities required to bike those miles, the lack of flexibility in terms of pre and post work errands, appointments, and pick-ups, and the time commitment involved, biking is not a realistic commuter option for most people. Facts are facts.




Bike commuting has been "a thing" for decades and, oh my, most of the newer buildings have showers and lockers so biking commuters can clean up before work. This has been a norm for years.

And, it doesn't need to be realistic for "most people" but if it realistic and safe FOR ENOUGH PEOPLE, then the overall impact on road space will be positively felt by the people who don't have the option. Motorists should be supporting safe bike infrastructure to make more room for themselves.

You refute yourself in your own post. It’s been a thing for decades. There has been a lot of investment in facilities and infrastructure. Yet hardly anyone does it. One more bike lane isn’t going to get people to commute on their bikes. Sorry.


Lots of people can't/don't drive ---> Nonetheless, we should continue to prioritize cars!

Lots of people can't/don't bike ---> NO BIKE LANES, BIKES ARE THE WORST, EVERYONE HATES THEM, CARS 4 EVAH.


Those two numbers are not even in the same galaxy.


You're right, they're not. One third of people in the US don't have a driver's license. I don't have a good source of data on this, but I seriously doubt that one third of people in the US can't ride a bike and/or can't afford a bike.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“Not to mention that bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue would INCREASE the carrying capacity of Connecticut Avenue.“

This is mendacious spin at a truly Trumpy tier.


Single occupancy vehicles are the least efficient method of getting people from one place to another. Mass transit and bikes are many times more efficient. So if planners and engineers redesign roads to priorities mass transit and bikes over cars, then by definition, the carrying capacity will increase.

Denying that is actually Trumpian.


Bicycles are literally single occupancy vehicles


And slow ones at that.


The idea that biking 6-10 miles each way from NOW DC to downtown is a realistic option for many commuters is simply false. Between the need to carry stuff to and from work, the need to be dressed appropriately and clean at the office, the physical abilities required to bike those miles, the lack of flexibility in terms of pre and post work errands, appointments, and pick-ups, and the time commitment involved, biking is not a realistic commuter option for most people. Facts are facts.




Bike commuting has been "a thing" for decades and, oh my, most of the newer buildings have showers and lockers so biking commuters can clean up before work. This has been a norm for years.

And, it doesn't need to be realistic for "most people" but if it realistic and safe FOR ENOUGH PEOPLE, then the overall impact on road space will be positively felt by the people who don't have the option. Motorists should be supporting safe bike infrastructure to make more room for themselves.

You refute yourself in your own post. It’s been a thing for decades. There has been a lot of investment in facilities and infrastructure. Yet hardly anyone does it. One more bike lane isn’t going to get people to commute on their bikes. Sorry.


Lots of people can't/don't drive ---> Nonetheless, we should continue to prioritize cars!

Lots of people can't/don't bike ---> NO BIKE LANES, BIKES ARE THE WORST, EVERYONE HATES THEM, CARS 4 EVAH.


Those two numbers are not even in the same galaxy.


You're right, they're not. One third of people in the US don't have a driver's license. I don't have a good source of data on this, but I seriously doubt that one third of people in the US can't ride a bike and/or can't afford a bike.


^^^In addition, bicycling helps ensure that you will be able to continue to bicycle (and generally be more mobile) as you get older.

Bicycling over a Lifetime Is Associated with Less Symptomatic Knee Osteoarthritis
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38600648/
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“Not to mention that bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue would INCREASE the carrying capacity of Connecticut Avenue.“

This is mendacious spin at a truly Trumpy tier.


Single occupancy vehicles are the least efficient method of getting people from one place to another. Mass transit and bikes are many times more efficient. So if planners and engineers redesign roads to priorities mass transit and bikes over cars, then by definition, the carrying capacity will increase.

Denying that is actually Trumpian.


Bicycles are literally single occupancy vehicles


And slow ones at that.


The idea that biking 6-10 miles each way from NOW DC to downtown is a realistic option for many commuters is simply false. Between the need to carry stuff to and from work, the need to be dressed appropriately and clean at the office, the physical abilities required to bike those miles, the lack of flexibility in terms of pre and post work errands, appointments, and pick-ups, and the time commitment involved, biking is not a realistic commuter option for most people. Facts are facts.




Bike commuting has been "a thing" for decades and, oh my, most of the newer buildings have showers and lockers so biking commuters can clean up before work. This has been a norm for years.

And, it doesn't need to be realistic for "most people" but if it realistic and safe FOR ENOUGH PEOPLE, then the overall impact on road space will be positively felt by the people who don't have the option. Motorists should be supporting safe bike infrastructure to make more room for themselves.

You refute yourself in your own post. It’s been a thing for decades. There has been a lot of investment in facilities and infrastructure. Yet hardly anyone does it. One more bike lane isn’t going to get people to commute on their bikes. Sorry.


Lots of people can't/don't drive ---> Nonetheless, we should continue to prioritize cars!

Lots of people can't/don't bike ---> NO BIKE LANES, BIKES ARE THE WORST, EVERYONE HATES THEM, CARS 4 EVAH.


Those two numbers are not even in the same galaxy.


You're right, they're not. One third of people in the US don't have a driver's license. I don't have a good source of data on this, but I seriously doubt that one third of people in the US can't ride a bike and/or can't afford a bike.


Did you miss the word "don't"?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“Not to mention that bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue would INCREASE the carrying capacity of Connecticut Avenue.“

This is mendacious spin at a truly Trumpy tier.


Single occupancy vehicles are the least efficient method of getting people from one place to another. Mass transit and bikes are many times more efficient. So if planners and engineers redesign roads to priorities mass transit and bikes over cars, then by definition, the carrying capacity will increase.

Denying that is actually Trumpian.


Bicycles are literally single occupancy vehicles


And slow ones at that.


The idea that biking 6-10 miles each way from NOW DC to downtown is a realistic option for many commuters is simply false. Between the need to carry stuff to and from work, the need to be dressed appropriately and clean at the office, the physical abilities required to bike those miles, the lack of flexibility in terms of pre and post work errands, appointments, and pick-ups, and the time commitment involved, biking is not a realistic commuter option for most people. Facts are facts.




Bike commuting has been "a thing" for decades and, oh my, most of the newer buildings have showers and lockers so biking commuters can clean up before work. This has been a norm for years.

And, it doesn't need to be realistic for "most people" but if it realistic and safe FOR ENOUGH PEOPLE, then the overall impact on road space will be positively felt by the people who don't have the option. Motorists should be supporting safe bike infrastructure to make more room for themselves.

You refute yourself in your own post. It’s been a thing for decades. There has been a lot of investment in facilities and infrastructure. Yet hardly anyone does it. One more bike lane isn’t going to get people to commute on their bikes. Sorry.


Lots of people can't/don't drive ---> Nonetheless, we should continue to prioritize cars!

Lots of people can't/don't bike ---> NO BIKE LANES, BIKES ARE THE WORST, EVERYONE HATES THEM, CARS 4 EVAH.


Those two numbers are not even in the same galaxy.


You're right, they're not. One third of people in the US don't have a driver's license. I don't have a good source of data on this, but I seriously doubt that one third of people in the US can't ride a bike and/or can't afford a bike.


Did you miss the word "don't"?


One third of people in the US don't have a driver's license = One third of people in the US can't legally drive.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“Not to mention that bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue would INCREASE the carrying capacity of Connecticut Avenue.“

This is mendacious spin at a truly Trumpy tier.


Single occupancy vehicles are the least efficient method of getting people from one place to another. Mass transit and bikes are many times more efficient. So if planners and engineers redesign roads to priorities mass transit and bikes over cars, then by definition, the carrying capacity will increase.

Denying that is actually Trumpian.


Bicycles are literally single occupancy vehicles


And slow ones at that.


The idea that biking 6-10 miles each way from NOW DC to downtown is a realistic option for many commuters is simply false. Between the need to carry stuff to and from work, the need to be dressed appropriately and clean at the office, the physical abilities required to bike those miles, the lack of flexibility in terms of pre and post work errands, appointments, and pick-ups, and the time commitment involved, biking is not a realistic commuter option for most people. Facts are facts.




Bike commuting has been "a thing" for decades and, oh my, most of the newer buildings have showers and lockers so biking commuters can clean up before work. This has been a norm for years.

And, it doesn't need to be realistic for "most people" but if it realistic and safe FOR ENOUGH PEOPLE, then the overall impact on road space will be positively felt by the people who don't have the option. Motorists should be supporting safe bike infrastructure to make more room for themselves.

You refute yourself in your own post. It’s been a thing for decades. There has been a lot of investment in facilities and infrastructure. Yet hardly anyone does it. One more bike lane isn’t going to get people to commute on their bikes. Sorry.


Lots of people can't/don't drive ---> Nonetheless, we should continue to prioritize cars!

Lots of people can't/don't bike ---> NO BIKE LANES, BIKES ARE THE WORST, EVERYONE HATES THEM, CARS 4 EVAH.


Those two numbers are not even in the same galaxy.


You're right, they're not. One third of people in the US don't have a driver's license. I don't have a good source of data on this, but I seriously doubt that one third of people in the US can't ride a bike and/or can't afford a bike.


Did you miss the word "don't"?


One third of people in the US don't have a driver's license = One third of people in the US can't legally drive.


And please don't assert that disabled people who can't drive also can't ride a bike, because that's not true. Some can't. Some can.

About 30 percent of U.S. residents don’t have a driver’s license — and countless more have given up their keys, even if they still have that all-important card in their wallet. So why do so many people assume that there are no “non-drivers” in America, and what will it take to prioritize their needs in our transportation decisions?

In her essential new book, “When Driving Is Not an Option: Steering Away From Car Dependency,” disability rights advocate Anna Zivarts unpacks the large and diverse community of people who never get behind the wheel, whether because of their age, their disabilities, their immigration status, their criminal history, or because they simply can’t afford it. And then, she outlines a roadmap for building a world where those who can’t depend on cars can still get where they’re going safely, easily, and independently — and why everyone would benefit from that fundamental shift.


https://usa.streetsblog.org/2024/05/09/the-30-of-non-driving-americans-should-form-a-movement-a-conversation-with-anna-zivarts
Anonymous
I see the people that don’t live in the area are trying to change the subject from the fact that they are obsessively posting about a hyper local bike lane issue. Nutters.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“Not to mention that bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue would INCREASE the carrying capacity of Connecticut Avenue.“

This is mendacious spin at a truly Trumpy tier.


Single occupancy vehicles are the least efficient method of getting people from one place to another. Mass transit and bikes are many times more efficient. So if planners and engineers redesign roads to priorities mass transit and bikes over cars, then by definition, the carrying capacity will increase.

Denying that is actually Trumpian.


Bicycles are literally single occupancy vehicles


And slow ones at that.


The idea that biking 6-10 miles each way from NOW DC to downtown is a realistic option for many commuters is simply false. Between the need to carry stuff to and from work, the need to be dressed appropriately and clean at the office, the physical abilities required to bike those miles, the lack of flexibility in terms of pre and post work errands, appointments, and pick-ups, and the time commitment involved, biking is not a realistic commuter option for most people. Facts are facts.




Bike commuting has been "a thing" for decades and, oh my, most of the newer buildings have showers and lockers so biking commuters can clean up before work. This has been a norm for years.

And, it doesn't need to be realistic for "most people" but if it realistic and safe FOR ENOUGH PEOPLE, then the overall impact on road space will be positively felt by the people who don't have the option. Motorists should be supporting safe bike infrastructure to make more room for themselves.

You refute yourself in your own post. It’s been a thing for decades. There has been a lot of investment in facilities and infrastructure. Yet hardly anyone does it. One more bike lane isn’t going to get people to commute on their bikes. Sorry.


Lots of people can't/don't drive ---> Nonetheless, we should continue to prioritize cars!

Lots of people can't/don't bike ---> NO BIKE LANES, BIKES ARE THE WORST, EVERYONE HATES THEM, CARS 4 EVAH.


Those two numbers are not even in the same galaxy.


You're right, they're not. One third of people in the US don't have a driver's license. I don't have a good source of data on this, but I seriously doubt that one third of people in the US can't ride a bike and/or can't afford a bike.


Did you miss the word "don't"?


One third of people in the US don't have a driver's license = One third of people in the US can't legally drive.


Did you miss the word don't?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“Not to mention that bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue would INCREASE the carrying capacity of Connecticut Avenue.“

This is mendacious spin at a truly Trumpy tier.


Single occupancy vehicles are the least efficient method of getting people from one place to another. Mass transit and bikes are many times more efficient. So if planners and engineers redesign roads to priorities mass transit and bikes over cars, then by definition, the carrying capacity will increase.

Denying that is actually Trumpian.


Bicycles are literally single occupancy vehicles


And slow ones at that.


The idea that biking 6-10 miles each way from NOW DC to downtown is a realistic option for many commuters is simply false. Between the need to carry stuff to and from work, the need to be dressed appropriately and clean at the office, the physical abilities required to bike those miles, the lack of flexibility in terms of pre and post work errands, appointments, and pick-ups, and the time commitment involved, biking is not a realistic commuter option for most people. Facts are facts.




Bike commuting has been "a thing" for decades and, oh my, most of the newer buildings have showers and lockers so biking commuters can clean up before work. This has been a norm for years.

And, it doesn't need to be realistic for "most people" but if it realistic and safe FOR ENOUGH PEOPLE, then the overall impact on road space will be positively felt by the people who don't have the option. Motorists should be supporting safe bike infrastructure to make more room for themselves.

You refute yourself in your own post. It’s been a thing for decades. There has been a lot of investment in facilities and infrastructure. Yet hardly anyone does it. One more bike lane isn’t going to get people to commute on their bikes. Sorry.


Lots of people can't/don't drive ---> Nonetheless, we should continue to prioritize cars!

Lots of people can't/don't bike ---> NO BIKE LANES, BIKES ARE THE WORST, EVERYONE HATES THEM, CARS 4 EVAH.


Those two numbers are not even in the same galaxy.


You're right, they're not. One third of people in the US don't have a driver's license. I don't have a good source of data on this, but I seriously doubt that one third of people in the US can't ride a bike and/or can't afford a bike.


If that’s your understanding of the difference in the numbers between people who don’t drive and people who don’t bike in this area, you don’t belong anywhere near this conversation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“Not to mention that bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue would INCREASE the carrying capacity of Connecticut Avenue.“

This is mendacious spin at a truly Trumpy tier.


Single occupancy vehicles are the least efficient method of getting people from one place to another. Mass transit and bikes are many times more efficient. So if planners and engineers redesign roads to priorities mass transit and bikes over cars, then by definition, the carrying capacity will increase.

Denying that is actually Trumpian.


Bicycles are literally single occupancy vehicles


And slow ones at that.


The idea that biking 6-10 miles each way from NOW DC to downtown is a realistic option for many commuters is simply false. Between the need to carry stuff to and from work, the need to be dressed appropriately and clean at the office, the physical abilities required to bike those miles, the lack of flexibility in terms of pre and post work errands, appointments, and pick-ups, and the time commitment involved, biking is not a realistic commuter option for most people. Facts are facts.




Bike commuting has been "a thing" for decades and, oh my, most of the newer buildings have showers and lockers so biking commuters can clean up before work. This has been a norm for years.

And, it doesn't need to be realistic for "most people" but if it realistic and safe FOR ENOUGH PEOPLE, then the overall impact on road space will be positively felt by the people who don't have the option. Motorists should be supporting safe bike infrastructure to make more room for themselves.

You refute yourself in your own post. It’s been a thing for decades. There has been a lot of investment in facilities and infrastructure. Yet hardly anyone does it. One more bike lane isn’t going to get people to commute on their bikes. Sorry.


The bike lanes would not be solely for commuters. It would be for your neighbors who would like to bike from your neighborhood to another for errands and vice verse for people from other neighborhoods to come to yours (and not take up any of your precious parking) - it would also be for tourists to go to the zoo and for kids to go to school.


This is funny because I actually went to the zoo today (by car), and there was not a bike in sight. One couple on an e-scooter though. Down with bike lanes. Long live scooter lanes.
Anonymous
I have a feeling that 30% number above is inclusive of people under the age of 16, since other sources put the number of people over 16 with a license at 90+%.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have a feeling that 30% number above is inclusive of people under the age of 16, since other sources put the number of people over 16 with a license at 90+%.


Yes, it does include people under the age of 16. People under the age of 16 are people. People under the age of 16 are people who go places, even!
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