Teachers Resigning Like Crazy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can the teachers use collective bargaining to get disruptive kids out of the classroom???

I wish, but the VEA is big on “social justice” and having social justice as a priority does not bode well for kicking disruptive kids out of the classroom.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can the teachers use collective bargaining to get disruptive kids out of the classroom???

I wish, but the VEA is big on “social justice” and having social justice as a priority does not bode well for kicking disruptive kids out of the classroom.

Maybe they should check out the Jesuits and their ideas about social justice. Their schools are strict and don’t allow for BS behavior without consequences. Schools aren’t doing anyone favors by allowing for ridiculous behaviors. Those kids need limits since many of their parents aren’t giving them. We see a lot of extreme behaviors in my Title 1 school. It almost always comes down to parents having no limits at home.

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Anonymous wrote:From what I've witnessed kids are behaving better this year than at the beginning of the 2021-22 school year, when middle school students and 9th graders seemed particularly feral. It's just going to take some time given the disruption to learning and development. Parents can't expect teachers to be miracle workers nor can teachers expect parents to have fully compensated for the disruption forced upon them by the public schools. What the teachers can and should do is push back against the refusal of school administrators to discipline students or the imposition of oppressive training and ongoing reporting requirements that interferes with their ability to function effectively in a classroom.

Wow. Thank you for this measured response. That all makes complete and utter sense and you show that there is a way through. Thank you. I hope someone in power will listen to you!

It was a load of nonsense. Sorry, parents, it’s 2023 and kids have been in person for a long damn time. Time to retire the tired pandemic excuse. If your kids went feral during DL, that’s on no one but YOU.

As a teacher I just want to repeat something I mentioned in another thread or earlier than this one, can’t remember: the issue with schools right now is not solely attributable to a 6 month break that happened 3 years ago. That doesn’t hold water anymore, not least of which because the issues perseverate down to kids who weren’t IN school when the pandemic happened. K and 1st are a mess too- those kids were not in school or affected by any online learning.

What is happening is we have an entire k-12 generation who has grown up on handheld screens and lack of real life activity and engagement. Their parents (not all, but the parents who have helped create these issues) parented them by shoving a screen in their hands from toddlerhood. Todays seniors were born in 2005. By 2007-2008 when they were 2/3, their parents had a smartphone with apps and videos. They grew up sitting at dinner tables mindlessly staring at YouTube and shoveling food in their face. They got their verbal language from an app or video. Same with motor skills. My students are in 10th grade and all say they don’t even eat as a family - they all grab a plate and go watch a screen somewhere in the house. This is the norm.

So, right in line with this generation being raised this way, schools concurrently realized oh shit, discipline data looks bad . Let’s just stop disciplining these behaviors and then the bad data goes away. A generation of kids have been raised on terrible reading curriculum so they can’t meaningfully read either. They’ve been raised on screens and have no attention span, few true social skills, lack of reading and writing skills, and parents who don’t know what to do now that they’re too old to just shove in the corner with a phone. So what do the kids do? Cope the only way they know how- shove themselves in a corner to numb out on a screen.

I 100% agree with this. I stopped teaching when I had my first kid and went back 5 years later. Technology changed the game for the worse. Parents openly tell me they can’t get their kid off them or just use them when the kid is bored. If I had a choice I would never use them in my Kindergarten class. (Kids get 20 min/day on Lexia or dreambox)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From what I've witnessed kids are behaving better this year than at the beginning of the 2021-22 school year, when middle school students and 9th graders seemed particularly feral. It's just going to take some time given the disruption to learning and development. Parents can't expect teachers to be miracle workers nor can teachers expect parents to have fully compensated for the disruption forced upon them by the public schools. What the teachers can and should do is push back against the refusal of school administrators to discipline students or the imposition of oppressive training and ongoing reporting requirements that interferes with their ability to function effectively in a classroom.

Wow. Thank you for this measured response. That all makes complete and utter sense and you show that there is a way through. Thank you. I hope someone in power will listen to you!

It was a load of nonsense. Sorry, parents, it’s 2023 and kids have been in person for a long damn time. Time to retire the tired pandemic excuse. If your kids went feral during DL, that’s on no one but YOU.

As a teacher I just want to repeat something I mentioned in another thread or earlier than this one, can’t remember: the issue with schools right now is not solely attributable to a 6 month break that happened 3 years ago. That doesn’t hold water anymore, not least of which because the issues perseverate down to kids who weren’t IN school when the pandemic happened. K and 1st are a mess too- those kids were not in school or affected by any online learning.

What is happening is we have an entire k-12 generation who has grown up on handheld screens and lack of real life activity and engagement. Their parents (not all, but the parents who have helped create these issues) parented them by shoving a screen in their hands from toddlerhood. Todays seniors were born in 2005. By 2007-2008 when they were 2/3, their parents had a smartphone with apps and videos. They grew up sitting at dinner tables mindlessly staring at YouTube and shoveling food in their face. They got their verbal language from an app or video. Same with motor skills. My students are in 10th grade and all say they don’t even eat as a family - they all grab a plate and go watch a screen somewhere in the house. This is the norm.

So, right in line with this generation being raised this way, schools concurrently realized oh shit, discipline data looks bad . Let’s just stop disciplining these behaviors and then the bad data goes away. A generation of kids have been raised on terrible reading curriculum so they can’t meaningfully read either. They’ve been raised on screens and have no attention span, few true social skills, lack of reading and writing skills, and parents who don’t know what to do now that they’re too old to just shove in the corner with a phone. So what do the kids do? Cope the only way they know how- shove themselves in a corner to numb out on a screen.

+1 from a middle school teacher. Remember the thread where parents were talking about texting their kids all school day, like this was normal?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From what I've witnessed kids are behaving better this year than at the beginning of the 2021-22 school year, when middle school students and 9th graders seemed particularly feral. It's just going to take some time given the disruption to learning and development. Parents can't expect teachers to be miracle workers nor can teachers expect parents to have fully compensated for the disruption forced upon them by the public schools. What the teachers can and should do is push back against the refusal of school administrators to discipline students or the imposition of oppressive training and ongoing reporting requirements that interferes with their ability to function effectively in a classroom.

Wow. Thank you for this measured response. That all makes complete and utter sense and you show that there is a way through. Thank you. I hope someone in power will listen to you!

It was a load of nonsense. Sorry, parents, it’s 2023 and kids have been in person for a long damn time. Time to retire the tired pandemic excuse. If your kids went feral during DL, that’s on no one but YOU.

As a teacher I just want to repeat something I mentioned in another thread or earlier than this one, can’t remember: the issue with schools right now is not solely attributable to a 6 month break that happened 3 years ago. That doesn’t hold water anymore, not least of which because the issues perseverate down to kids who weren’t IN school when the pandemic happened. K and 1st are a mess too- those kids were not in school or affected by any online learning.

What is happening is we have an entire k-12 generation who has grown up on handheld screens and lack of real life activity and engagement. Their parents (not all, but the parents who have helped create these issues) parented them by shoving a screen in their hands from toddlerhood. Todays seniors were born in 2005. By 2007-2008 when they were 2/3, their parents had a smartphone with apps and videos. They grew up sitting at dinner tables mindlessly staring at YouTube and shoveling food in their face. They got their verbal language from an app or video. Same with motor skills. My students are in 10th grade and all say they don’t even eat as a family - they all grab a plate and go watch a screen somewhere in the house. This is the norm.

So, right in line with this generation being raised this way, schools concurrently realized oh shit, discipline data looks bad . Let’s just stop disciplining these behaviors and then the bad data goes away. A generation of kids have been raised on terrible reading curriculum so they can’t meaningfully read either. They’ve been raised on screens and have no attention span, few true social skills, lack of reading and writing skills, and parents who don’t know what to do now that they’re too old to just shove in the corner with a phone. So what do the kids do? Cope the only way they know how- shove themselves in a corner to numb out on a screen.

I 100% agree with this. I stopped teaching when I had my first kid and went back 5 years later. Technology changed the game for the worse. Parents openly tell me they can’t get their kid off them or just use them when the kid is bored. If I had a choice I would never use them in my Kindergarten class. (Kids get 20 min/day on Lexia or dreambox)

Wow. We got our first iPad when our first was two years old, and I always thought my kids (now 10 and 13) had too much screen time. But I was very conscientious about not using screens to avoid dealing with meltdowns/tantrums/boredom, we never allowed screens at dinner, we made sure they spent time outside before screens, etc. Is this why teachers say my kids are one of the few well-behaved ones in class? I really thought I was doing the bare minimum with screen time. This is sad for the both kids like mine who want to learn but can’t because other kids won’t behave and for those kids who aren’t behaving because they don’t know how to self-regulate without an electronic device.

I do think that since millennial parents were the first generation to deal with managing their children’s screen time, other generations can see the impacts of our mistakes and make Better choices. I have seen many gen Z kids basically blame their parents for lots of their problems (especially body image) because their parents let them have a lot of screen time, and they’re saying they don’t plan on doing the same. Or they are going to opt out of kids altogether. So maybe things will be better in 20 years.

[Anonymous]

I recently saw a shopping cart cover with a pouch for the parents phone!! A baby not even 1 watching while shopping.

[Anonymous]

I have a senior born in 2005. I didn’t get a smartphone myself until 2013 or so. My son got one when he started 8th grade in 2018. Not everyone bought this technology when their kids were in preschool. That’s on you as a parent.

I’m a teacher and the students at my Title One school almost all have phones by 4th/5th grade. Almost all of my kindergarteners have tablets/phones. Many of them take them to their rooms and report felling asleep with them. This is a parenting issue, nothing more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a senior born in 2005. I didn’t get a smartphone myself until 2013 or so. My son got one when he started 8th grade in 2018. Not everyone bought this technology when their kids were in preschool. That’s on you as a parent.

I’m a teacher and the students at my Title One school almost all have phones by 4th/5th grade. Almost all of my kindergarteners have tablets/phones. Many of them take them to their rooms and report felling asleep with them. This is a parenting issue, nothing more.

Who is this statement directed to?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a senior born in 2005. I didn’t get a smartphone myself until 2013 or so. My son got one when he started 8th grade in 2018. Not everyone bought this technology when their kids were in preschool. That’s on you as a parent.

I’m a teacher and the students at my Title One school almost all have phones by 4th/5th grade. Almost all of my kindergarteners have tablets/phones. Many of them take them to their rooms and report felling asleep with them. This is a parenting issue, nothing more.

Who is this statement directed to?

Parents who allowed their preschoolers access to phones/tablets. No wonder they are addicted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a senior born in 2005. I didn’t get a smartphone myself until 2013 or so. My son got one when he started 8th grade in 2018. Not everyone bought this technology when their kids were in preschool. That’s on you as a parent.

I’m a teacher and the students at my Title One school almost all have phones by 4th/5th grade. Almost all of my kindergarteners have tablets/phones. Many of them take them to their rooms and report felling asleep with them. This is a parenting issue, nothing more.

Yeah like I said, it’s a matter of parenting and it isn’t every single parent. But the ones who relied on screens to raise their kids, distract the kids so they never had to engage or teach them anything, yes. You can tell. Their kids are like blobs. They don’t think about things. They have no curiosity or innate interests. They lack all problem solving skills. Like, will sit an entire class and do nothing and when you ask why they say “I didn’t have a pencil” because the solution of just asking for one never crossed their mind. These kids make up a solid 50%+ of any given grade level at this point. The ones who aren’t like this, their education still suffers because these are their peers.

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Anonymous wrote:From what I've witnessed kids are behaving better this year than at the beginning of the 2021-22 school year, when middle school students and 9th graders seemed particularly feral. It's just going to take some time given the disruption to learning and development. Parents can't expect teachers to be miracle workers nor can teachers expect parents to have fully compensated for the disruption forced upon them by the public schools. What the teachers can and should do is push back against the refusal of school administrators to discipline students or the imposition of oppressive training and ongoing reporting requirements that interferes with their ability to function effectively in a classroom.

Wow. Thank you for this measured response. That all makes complete and utter sense and you show that there is a way through. Thank you. I hope someone in power will listen to you!

It was a load of nonsense. Sorry, parents, it’s 2023 and kids have been in person for a long damn time. Time to retire the tired pandemic excuse. If your kids went feral during DL, that’s on no one but YOU.

As a teacher I just want to repeat something I mentioned in another thread or earlier than this one, can’t remember: the issue with schools right now is not solely attributable to a 6 month break that happened 3 years ago. That doesn’t hold water anymore, not least of which because the issues perseverate down to kids who weren’t IN school when the pandemic happened. K and 1st are a mess too- those kids were not in school or affected by any online learning.

What is happening is we have an entire k-12 generation who has grown up on handheld screens and lack of real life activity and engagement. Their parents (not all, but the parents who have helped create these issues) parented them by shoving a screen in their hands from toddlerhood. Todays seniors were born in 2005. By 2007-2008 when they were 2/3, their parents had a smartphone with apps and videos. They grew up sitting at dinner tables mindlessly staring at YouTube and shoveling food in their face. They got their verbal language from an app or video. Same with motor skills. My students are in 10th grade and all say they don’t even eat as a family - they all grab a plate and go watch a screen somewhere in the house. This is the norm.

So, right in line with this generation being raised this way, schools concurrently realized oh shit, discipline data looks bad . Let’s just stop disciplining these behaviors and then the bad data goes away. A generation of kids have been raised on terrible reading curriculum so they can’t meaningfully read either. They’ve been raised on screens and have no attention span, few true social skills, lack of reading and writing skills, and parents who don’t know what to do now that they’re too old to just shove in the corner with a phone. So what do the kids do? Cope the only way they know how- shove themselves in a corner to numb out on a screen.

I 100% agree with this. I stopped teaching when I had my first kid and went back 5 years later. Technology changed the game for the worse. Parents openly tell me they can’t get their kid off them or just use them when the kid is bored. If I had a choice I would never use them in my Kindergarten class. (Kids get 20 min/day on Lexia or dreambox)

I’m about DONE with iPads in my kinder class. They are always an issue and it takes so long for some kids to get logged on and I don’t even care anymore that we aren’t meeting Lexia minutes. I am done with iPads

[Anonymous]

The county messed up with this 1:1 technology, giving every child a laptop. Kids are now addicted to screens and must use screens at school and for homework. They are now intertwined with school which is the real issue. Schools should collect the laptops and go back to traditional paper and pencil, and regular textbooks. Old school learning. I 100% blames the county.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From what I've witnessed kids are behaving better this year than at the beginning of the 2021-22 school year, when middle school students and 9th graders seemed particularly feral. It's just going to take some time given the disruption to learning and development. Parents can't expect teachers to be miracle workers nor can teachers expect parents to have fully compensated for the disruption forced upon them by the public schools. What the teachers can and should do is push back against the refusal of school administrators to discipline students or the imposition of oppressive training and ongoing reporting requirements that interferes with their ability to function effectively in a classroom.

Wow. Thank you for this measured response. That all makes complete and utter sense and you show that there is a way through. Thank you. I hope someone in power will listen to you!

It was a load of nonsense. Sorry, parents, it’s 2023 and kids have been in person for a long damn time. Time to retire the tired pandemic excuse. If your kids went feral during DL, that’s on no one but YOU.

As a teacher I just want to repeat something I mentioned in another thread or earlier than this one, can’t remember: the issue with schools right now is not solely attributable to a 6 month break that happened 3 years ago. That doesn’t hold water anymore, not least of which because the issues perseverate down to kids who weren’t IN school when the pandemic happened. K and 1st are a mess too- those kids were not in school or affected by any online learning.

What is happening is we have an entire k-12 generation who has grown up on handheld screens and lack of real life activity and engagement. Their parents (not all, but the parents who have helped create these issues) parented them by shoving a screen in their hands from toddlerhood. Todays seniors were born in 2005. By 2007-2008 when they were 2/3, their parents had a smartphone with apps and videos. They grew up sitting at dinner tables mindlessly staring at YouTube and shoveling food in their face. They got their verbal language from an app or video. Same with motor skills. My students are in 10th grade and all say they don’t even eat as a family - they all grab a plate and go watch a screen somewhere in the house. This is the norm.

So, right in line with this generation being raised this way, schools concurrently realized oh shit, discipline data looks bad . Let’s just stop disciplining these behaviors and then the bad data goes away. A generation of kids have been raised on terrible reading curriculum so they can’t meaningfully read either. They’ve been raised on screens and have no attention span, few true social skills, lack of reading and writing skills, and parents who don’t know what to do now that they’re too old to just shove in the corner with a phone. So what do the kids do? Cope the only way they know how- shove themselves in a corner to numb out on a screen.

I 100% agree with this. I stopped teaching when I had my first kid and went back 5 years later. Technology changed the game for the worse. Parents openly tell me they can’t get their kid off them or just use them when the kid is bored. If I had a choice I would never use them in my Kindergarten class. (Kids get 20 min/day on Lexia or dreambox)

I’m about DONE with iPads in my kinder class. They are always an issue and it takes so long for some kids to get logged on and I don’t even care anymore that we aren’t meeting Lexia minutes. I am done with iPads

I'm about DONE with behaviors . Behaviors all day every day. Teachers in my building are exhausted with the apathy and disrespect from students and parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The county messed up with this 1:1 technology, giving every child a laptop. Kids are now addicted to screens and must use screens at school and for homework. They are now intertwined with school which is the real issue. Schools should collect the laptops and go back to traditional paper and pencil, and regular textbooks. Old school learning. I 100% blames the county.

HS teacher. Completely agree. Even 4-5 years ago when we just had class sets of laptops you could check out for in class essay writing it was better. The devices are a sanctioned distraction. They’re playing games and watching soccer on them. I do not use them in my class. Even for diligent kids, online assignments lack an immediacy and end up being forgotten or done late because when it’s always there, it’s … always there. Lulls the kids into not completing it because the second they close that device the assignment no longer exists. We do all paper and printed texts - the only assignment I do on their devices are their final written summatives so they have word processing tools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The county messed up with this 1:1 technology, giving every child a laptop. Kids are now addicted to screens and must use screens at school and for homework. They are now intertwined with school which is the real issue. Schools should collect the laptops and go back to traditional paper and pencil, and regular textbooks. Old school learning. I 100% blames the county.

HS teacher. Completely agree. Even 4-5 years ago when we just had class sets of laptops you could check out for in class essay writing it was better. The devices are a sanctioned distraction. They’re playing games and watching soccer on them. I do not use them in my class. Even for diligent kids, online assignments lack an immediacy and end up being forgotten or done late because when it’s always there, it’s … always there. Lulls the kids into not completing it because the second they close that device the assignment no longer exists. We do all paper and printed texts - the only assignment I do on their devices are their final written summatives so they have word processing tools.

This is amazing! How often do teachers have discretion to not use them? It seems like elementary teachers don't have that discretion but do all middle and high school teachers?