UMC suburban college student lied about background to become prestigious Rhodes Scholar

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This may be more complicated. According to this article, the young woman did grow up with a physician mom, but was removed from her home because of parental abuse in high school because of parental abuse and entered foster care. This is not your typical privileged suburban kid.



https://www.bigtrial.net/2021/12/lawsuit-pillow-talk-conspiracy-between.html








agree
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This may be more complicated. According to this article, the young woman did grow up with a physician mom, but was removed from her home because of parental abuse in high school because of parental abuse and entered foster care. This is not your typical privileged suburban kid.

https://www.bigtrial.net/2021/12/lawsuit-pillow-talk-conspiracy-between.html



agree


You might want to read the thread.

She went into foster care after her 17th birthday, not as a small child. And it was after allegations for which the prosecution was dropped by the prosecutor for lack of evidence. There were also inconsistencies in the story, and the prosecutor backed out after investigating further.

No, she's not your typical kid. She obviously has a lot of problems, but that doesn't justify the lies documented in this thread already. Hopefully the full story will get sorted out if it goes to court. Like a prior PP, I know what U Penn's legal team is like, and they don't go to the mat without having a ton of evidence to back them up. We'll see.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This may be more complicated. According to this article, the young woman did grow up with a physician mom, but was removed from her home because of parental abuse in high school because of parental abuse and entered foster care. This is not your typical privileged suburban kid.

https://www.bigtrial.net/2021/12/lawsuit-pillow-talk-conspiracy-between.html



agree


You might want to read the thread.

She went into foster care after her 17th birthday, not as a small child. And it was after allegations for which the prosecution was dropped by the prosecutor for lack of evidence. There were also inconsistencies in the story, and the prosecutor backed out after investigating further.

No, she's not your typical kid. She obviously has a lot of problems, but that doesn't justify the lies documented in this thread already. Hopefully the full story will get sorted out if it goes to court. Like a prior PP, I know what U Penn's legal team is like, and they don't go to the mat without having a ton of evidence to back them up. We'll see.


You’re leaving out the part where social services reported at the time of her parents divorce that she had been the victim of parental abuse. She was 8 years old at the time.

You’re also leaving out the fact that social services investigated and based on that investigation removed her from her mother’s custody based on that investigation. While the DA may have felt that there was not enough evidence to gain a conviction and therefore elected not to take her to trial, that doesn’t mean that nothing happened. Gaining criminal conviction requires a different standard of proof. The fact is that she was hospitalized for more than 3 weeks after the incident with her mother. The decision of the prosecutor doesn’t change that basic fact.

There is also no denying that she spent half of her high school career living at various homes and without parental supervision. That is not a normal high school career. How many high school kids could achieve top honors after missing almost a month of school to start the year and then bouncing around from one home to another for 2 years and be elected student body President? These are all facts and are not made up or invented.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
There is also no denying that she spent half of her high school career living at various homes and without parental supervision. That is not a normal high school career. How many high school kids could achieve top honors after missing almost a month of school to start the year and then bouncing around from one home to another for 2 years and be elected student body President? These are all facts and are not made up or invented.


None of which, literally none, were willing to have her stay with them for less than a year when she was 17, so she wouldn't have to go into the foster system? Had she burned all those bridges?

Oh, she's doubtlessly very bright. Nobody has said she's stupid. But as we both know, intelligence isn't necessarily aligned with honesty or ability to deal with the world. She has a lot of problems.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
There is also no denying that she spent half of her high school career living at various homes and without parental supervision. That is not a normal high school career. How many high school kids could achieve top honors after missing almost a month of school to start the year and then bouncing around from one home to another for 2 years and be elected student body President? These are all facts and are not made up or invented.


None of which, literally none, were willing to have her stay with them for less than a year when she was 17, so she wouldn't have to go into the foster system? Had she burned all those bridges?

Oh, she's doubtlessly very bright. Nobody has said she's stupid. But as we both know, intelligence isn't necessarily aligned with honesty or ability to deal with the world. She has a lot of problems.


Wow! You don’t even know her and you’re diagnosing her with a lot of problems.

Her professors at Penn, who do know her, vouch fir her character and stand by her.

As for her being bright, that wasn’t the point. She overcame a 3+ week hospitalization and bouncing around among different homes for half of her high school career. It takes something other than intelligence to overcome all of those obstacles. Plenty of equally bright kids would have folded under those conditions.
Anonymous
What diagnoses, exactly?

Canniness, resilience, and intelligence =/= Rhodes scholarship. There are thousands of kids who have been through worse and don't expect an RS. They aren't liars on a large scale, either.
Anonymous
17 years old is not a child, it's a grown ass woman. Something is terrifyingly sketchy with her or she was playing a deliberate angle (scam) with the foster stuff at 17 (for elite college admissions and scholarships). A 17 year old rich kid is more than old enough to simply move out of your mom's mansion and in with a rich friend's family. She had literally zero good friends at a private high school she was president of the class at? I went to a private day school for all 4 years, in addition to friends' families who would take me in without question, even teachers and the headmaster who would have taken me in had I asked. It makes zero sense and calls into question all of her claims.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
There is also no denying that she spent half of her high school career living at various homes and without parental supervision. That is not a normal high school career. How many high school kids could achieve top honors after missing almost a month of school to start the year and then bouncing around from one home to another for 2 years and be elected student body President? These are all facts and are not made up or invented.


None of which, literally none, were willing to have her stay with them for less than a year when she was 17, so she wouldn't have to go into the foster system? Had she burned all those bridges?

Oh, she's doubtlessly very bright. Nobody has said she's stupid. But as we both know, intelligence isn't necessarily aligned with honesty or ability to deal with the world. She has a lot of problems.


Wow! You don’t even know her and you’re diagnosing her with a lot of problems.

Her professors at Penn, who do know her, vouch fir her character and stand by her.

As for her being bright, that wasn’t the point. She overcame a 3+ week hospitalization and bouncing around among different homes for half of her high school career. It takes something other than intelligence to overcome all of those obstacles. Plenty of equally bright kids would have folded under those conditions.


She has two professors who vouch for her, one of which she lived with, as I understand.

Living with a student doesn’t show good judgment IMO. I’m surprised it is even allowed.
Anonymous
It's just another piece of sketchy on this charcuterie board of sketchy, PP.
Anonymous
So she sweet talked a professor into letting her live with her but couldn't get any of the hundreds of families in her rich kid private school to let her live with them her senior year of high school? Super strange.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So she sweet talked a professor into letting her live with her but couldn't get any of the hundreds of families in her rich kid private school to let her live with them her senior year of high school? Super strange.


Don't forget she was unable to stay with any of her friends after "bouncing around among different homes for half of her high school career," as PP attests. So something happened that made her persona non grata to them, after she was welcome through a lot of the upheavals.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:17 years old is not a child, it's a grown ass woman. Something is terrifyingly sketchy with her or she was playing a deliberate angle (scam) with the foster stuff at 17 (for elite college admissions and scholarships). A 17 year old rich kid is more than old enough to simply move out of your mom's mansion and in with a rich friend's family. She had literally zero good friends at a private high school she was president of the class at? I went to a private day school for all 4 years, in addition to friends' families who would take me in without question, even teachers and the headmaster who would have taken me in had I asked. It makes zero sense and calls into question all of her claims.


You don’t have to lie to make your point.

1) 17 is not a grown woman.
2) Her mother did not and does not live in a mansion.

You can question any claims you want, but until you have answers your questioning doesn’t mean anything. In the end a court will decide the legitimacy of her claims.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So she sweet talked a professor into letting her live with her but couldn't get any of the hundreds of families in her rich kid private school to let her live with them her senior year of high school? Super strange.


Don't forget she was unable to stay with any of her friends after "bouncing around among different homes for half of her high school career," as PP attests. So something happened that made her persona non grata to them, after she was welcome through a lot of the upheavals.


This is so typical of this board. There is no evidence that she was persona non grata as you claim, yet you make that claim anyway. No one is responsible for taking in someone else’s kid and there are a lot of reasons why people might not want to do that - both legal and otherwise.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So she sweet talked a professor into letting her live with her but couldn't get any of the hundreds of families in her rich kid private school to let her live with them her senior year of high school? Super strange.


Don't forget she was unable to stay with any of her friends after "bouncing around among different homes for half of her high school career," as PP attests. So something happened that made her persona non grata to them, after she was welcome through a lot of the upheavals.


This is so typical of this board. There is no evidence that she was persona non grata as you claim, yet you make that claim anyway. No one is responsible for taking in someone else’s kid and there are a lot of reasons why people might not want to do that - both legal and otherwise.


Okay. So let's be clear that she attended an expensive private school and "bounc[ed] around among different homes for half of her high school career," then at last entered the foster care system with less than a year left before she turned eighteen. And that was for reasons none of us have utterly any clue as to how it happened, a total mystery.

Does that work for you?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So she sweet talked a professor into letting her live with her but couldn't get any of the hundreds of families in her rich kid private school to let her live with them her senior year of high school? Super strange.


Don't forget she was unable to stay with any of her friends after "bouncing around among different homes for half of her high school career," as PP attests. So something happened that made her persona non grata to them, after she was welcome through a lot of the upheavals.


This is so typical of this board. There is no evidence that she was persona non grata as you claim, yet you make that claim anyway. No one is responsible for taking in someone else’s kid and there are a lot of reasons why people might not want to do that - both legal and otherwise.


Persona non grata just means someone who is not welcome. Are you saying she was welcome at least one of the homes she stayed in before, but she declined the offer in order to enter the foster system instead? I didn't think you would admit that.
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