Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

[Anonymous]

Sean Baker, who won Best Director this year, simulated sex with his wife to give Mikey Madison an idea of how he wanted scenes to look like in "Anora."

Film is a visual medium that can require some unusual behind the scenes methods to achieve the intended result, and Heath showing Blake one-second of that video is just so minor.

I know the pro-Lively people will say, "Well, the difference is that Mikey consented." But even the mere suggestion of certain things or the mere asking of questions was enough for Blake to include these instances in her complaint.

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Anonymous wrote:Reddit also shows the Jamie Heath birth video that Blake claimed was pornography. I won’t post it here but wow. A family cuddling their newborn, with the birthing mom (Heath’s wife) being covered by a blanket throughout most of video. Music of Maxwell (I think) playing in the background, somewhat spiritual, a song about a woman’s worth.

And this was claimed by Blake as being pornographic—Justin and Jamie attempting to show her porn?

Wow. More receipts by Baldoni. Another fabrication by Blake.

I’m not sure what was on the screen when it was shown to Lively, but a screen grab that was posted a month ago seemed to show a mostly naked (?) Jamie Heath in a tub laying behind his also mostly naked wife, with the baby on top in a towel. What I mostly noticed from this was two mostly naked people in a tub, which I also wouldn’t want to watch tbh and which I might also confuse with a different kind of video. I am totally on Lively’s side here.

Contortions. You are always going to be on Lively’s side. If a millisecond of a frame showed a bare chest, you are going to claim “pornography.” It’s such an exaggerated posture, always looking to find or make any instance negative to feed your narrative. It’s sad that you are this type of person. Let me be clear:you are a jump to conclusions person just to prove a narrative that you know might be false. But you jump to conclusions to exacerbate a situation that you know may be false, but do it to have an excuse for your actions. Pathetic— and if Jeff wants to close the thread, let him.

[Anonymous]

And no. I’ve been graceful to a point with your comments. This type of gaslighting is why some of us come hard on you. Anything to twist an occurrence into a pro-Blake point.

How much does everyone think this person is being paid to support Blake?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Adding that smart lawyers always get an agreement to protect the work product privilege. It doesn’t have to be a joint defense agreement, can also be called a common interest agreement. In any case, it is clear that Blake’s lawyers did not do that here or it would have been argued in both motions.

It can also just be an agreement to maintain confidentiality, which could even take the form of a standard disclaimer at the bottom of an email that states the communication is confidential, which most lawyers use when communicating about clients for this explicit reason. I feel confident any written communications between Gottlieb and Venable about this case would contain such disclaimers.

Also, what Lively has filed is just a motion to intervene, and she is claiming A-C privilege as the premise. She has not filed a motion to quash because she is not a party to the subpoena -- she needs permission from the court to weigh in on the subpoena at all. If the judge grants the motion to intervene, I expect we will see a more substantive motion to quash based on A-C privilege which will outline this more fully.

My firm would punish an associate who sent out attorney work product without a written agreement to protect it. That doesn’t exist here or it would have been mentioned. A blanket confidentiality statement wouldn’t cut it, firms put that on all outgoing emails which would include adverse parties.

[Anonymous]

Furthermore, I don’t see how you can be a lawyer and make determining statements based on biased facts. That’s not how we were trained in law school. And no way does that serve as sound consultancy in advising a client. You are not a lawyer. You are a paid influencer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Reddit also shows the Jamie Heath birth video that Blake claimed was pornography. I won’t post it here but wow. A family cuddling their newborn, with the birthing mom (Heath’s wife) being covered by a blanket throughout most of video. Music of Maxwell (I think) playing in the background, somewhat spiritual, a song about a woman’s worth.

And this was claimed by Blake as being pornographic—Justin and Jamie attempting to show her porn?

Wow. More receipts by Baldoni. Another fabrication by Blake.

I’m not sure what was on the screen when it was shown to Lively, but a screen grab that was posted a month ago seemed to show a mostly naked (?) Jamie Heath in a tub laying behind his also mostly naked wife, with the baby on top in a towel. What I mostly noticed from this was two mostly naked people in a tub, which I also wouldn’t want to watch tbh and which I might also confuse with a different kind of video. I am totally on Lively’s side here.

Contortions. You are always going to be on Lively’s side. If a millisecond of a frame showed a bare chest, you are going to claim “pornography.” It’s such an exaggerated posture, always looking to find or make any instance negative to feed your narrative. It’s sad that you are this type of person. Let me be clear:you are a jump to conclusions person just to prove a narrative that you know might be false. But you jump to conclusions to exacerbate a situation that you know may be false, but do it to have an excuse for your actions. Pathetic— and if Jeff wants to close the thread, let him.

I really don’t understand this comment since from my perspective you are doing all the things you say above but in favor of Baldoni, whose narrative about the SH you know might be false, since his own PR team believed he is a creep and that Lively believed she was SH’d. Different perspectives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Furthermore, I don’t see how you can be a lawyer and make determining statements based on biased facts. That’s not how we were trained in law school. And no way does that serve as sound consultancy in advising a client. You are not a lawyer. You are a paid influencer.

Lol if I'm a "paid influencer" where is my $$$$???

I think you're mad about the comments about Baldoni's lawyer on the prior page that are not flattering.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Furthermore, I don’t see how you can be a lawyer and make determining statements based on biased facts. That’s not how we were trained in law school. And no way does that serve as sound consultancy in advising a client. You are not a lawyer. You are a paid influencer.

Lol if I'm a "paid influencer" where is my $$$$???

I think you're mad about the comments about Baldoni's lawyer on the prior page that are not flattering.

No one cares about your weird conspiracy theories.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sean Baker, who won Best Director this year, simulated sex with his wife to give Mikey Madison an idea of how he wanted scenes to look like in "Anora."

Film is a visual medium that can require some unusual behind the scenes methods to achieve the intended result, and Heath showing Blake one-second of that video is just so minor.

I know the pro-Lively people will say, "Well, the difference is that Mikey consented." But even the mere suggestion of certain things or the mere asking of questions was enough for Blake to include these instances in her complaint.

That's revolting, sorry.

But yeah, consent is relevant. Also relevant is the fact that Heath showed Lively the video AFTER they had already shot the birth scene. It was not shown to her as an instruction for how they wanted the scene to look. If that's what they wanted to do, they could have suggested it and made sure she was cool with it (just as I sure hope Sean Baker presumably did with Madison) before the scene was shot.

Also, I just want to add that it's insane to me that they wanted to use Heath's wife's birth experience and video as a model for how the birth scene looked. To be clear, this was a movie about a woman who has a kid with a guy who is physically and emotionally abusing her, and it is the birth of her daughter that makes her realize she cannot stay with him and needs to leave (the phrase "it ends with us" refers to the character's pledge to her baby). It's just really weird that they felt that was appropriate inspiration for the movie.

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Anonymous wrote:Reddit also shows the Jamie Heath birth video that Blake claimed was pornography. I won’t post it here but wow. A family cuddling their newborn, with the birthing mom (Heath’s wife) being covered by a blanket throughout most of video. Music of Maxwell (I think) playing in the background, somewhat spiritual, a song about a woman’s worth.

And this was claimed by Blake as being pornographic—Justin and Jamie attempting to show her porn?

Wow. More receipts by Baldoni. Another fabrication by Blake.

I’m not sure what was on the screen when it was shown to Lively, but a screen grab that was posted a month ago seemed to show a mostly naked (?) Jamie Heath in a tub laying behind his also mostly naked wife, with the baby on top in a towel. What I mostly noticed from this was two mostly naked people in a tub, which I also wouldn’t want to watch tbh and which I might also confuse with a different kind of video. I am totally on Lively’s side here.

This. Also I don't think Lively ever claimed the video was pornography. She alleged that Heath tried to show it to her with no warning or explanation, and, seeing what appeared to be nudity and an awkward position, briefly thought it was porn. Once she knew it was a birth video, she didn't allege it was pornographic.

However, the video on reddit strikes me as extremely intimate and inappropriate to share with a coworker without asking first if they want to see it. I also think showing it to Lively the day after filming the birth scene where Baldoni and Heath pressured Lively to do simulate full nudity in the scene and Baldoni made belittling comments to Lively about how it is "not normal" for a woman to wear a hospital gown during birth are what push this into harassment. They should not have pressured her to do nudity that wasn't specified in the script, should not have made those comments while pressuring her, and should definitely not have shown her the birth video the next day to, I don't know, prove their point on how women should be nude during birth? I truly cannot think of a good reason to show Lively the birth video at all, but especially not with explicitly telling her first "this is my wife's birth video, it's pretty intimate, would you like to see it." Just because Heath and his wife are happy to share these videos with whomever and post them on social media does not mean that everyone wants to see them or feels the same way.

Heath also allegedly said, when Lively asked him if he had his wife's permission to show the video, that his wife "isn't weird about" childbirth, as though being more modest about it is "weird."

If those conversations happened to me in my workplace, I would 100% view it as inappropriate and potentially harassing (depending on what else was happening in the same workplace).

So no, I don't think putting that video on instagram represents "receipts."

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Idk. When I read the NYT piece it seemed the implication was that they tried to force her to view porn. .. there’s been a lot of backtracking from the implications of that article which made Baldoni sound like a monster.

Did it say that or did your brain jump there.

I think a lot of people may have let their minds go to the most sensational image in their head of the original allegations. Who knows, maybe the way the NYT article was framed contributed to that, I don't know.

But if you actually read the original complaint, that's what it says -- Lively and her assistant both originally thought Heath was trying to show them porn because he showed them a bit of the video before saying what it was. At no point has Lively alleged that Heath showed her pornography, or called the birth video porn.

Libel by implication is a thing you know. And clearly that’s the assumption people would make without more context. That some creepy guy was being creepy and making her uncomfortable.

A guy WAS being creepy and it DID make her uncomfortable.

I would be very uncomfortable if a coworker with no warning started showing me their wife's birth video, without even telling me what it was first. I would also be confused and worried I was seeing something inappropriate and would stop him. If he said "it's my wife's birth video, I thought you'd want to see it" I would, like Lively, as if his wife knew he was showing it to people. If he responded yes because "she isn't weird about this stuff," I would take that as a passive aggressive comment that I was weird for not wanting to watch a total strangers birth video at work.

IMO, the forgoing paragraph absolutely describes a guy being creepy and making a coworker uncomfortable. I don't understand how you could see it otherwise.

Well, it’s her allegation that she had no warning. I would guess that’s another ‘mis-remembering’ on her part. And the fact is she was acting out a birth scene and being paid well to do it. Again, this wasn’t an accounting firm. Context matters as does whether her feelings of discomfort were reasonable. The same woman who sends flirty texts about ‘using her teeth’ and being ‘spicy’ is offended by some creative direction on a scene she’s in? Sorry, a jury is just not going to buy it. She needs to settle.

Nope, Baldoni and Heath corroborate her account. From their Exhibit A timeline:

During lunch, as part of a continued creative discussion that Baldoni and Lively were having about the hospital birthing scene, Baldoni asked Heath to show Lively his wife’s post-home-birth video, stating to Heath that Lively had not seen one and was presumably interested in watching. Baldoni himself had seen the video prior and felt it was demonstrative of the spirit of his vision for the birthing scene. Heath agreed to share this deeply personal video and approached Lively with the video in hand. He proceeded to show her one second of it before Lively asked if Heath had permission to share the video, to which Heath confirmed that he did. Lively stated she would like to see the video but asked to watch it after finishing her lunch. Heath did not press the matter and moved on. (NOTE: Lively never did see the video beyond the one-second clip shown to her).

Heath even acknowledges the video was "deeply personal" and adds the detail that Baldoni told him to show it to Lively because she was "presumably interested" -- indicating they assumed she'd want to see it (because they are creepy) but did not ask her if she wanted to see it.

These guys are weird, sorry. This is their own description of what happened and all I see are red flags.

Because you choose to see red flags. Who is paying you? There has not been one reasonable contort by you or the other Lively defender that’s based in any sphere of reasonableness. You gaslight intentionally. You are no practicing lawyer. Your reputation would be shredded by now if you said these thoughts to anyone outside of this thread, and you both know it.

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Anonymous wrote:Furthermore, I don’t see how you can be a lawyer and make determining statements based on biased facts. That’s not how we were trained in law school. And no way does that serve as sound consultancy in advising a client. You are not a lawyer. You are a paid influencer.

Lol if I'm a "paid influencer" where is my $$$$???

I think you're mad about the comments about Baldoni's lawyer on the prior page that are not flattering.

No one cares about your weird conspiracy theories.

It's not a conspiracy theory. Baldoni's lawyers are incompetent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sean Baker, who won Best Director this year, simulated sex with his wife to give Mikey Madison an idea of how he wanted scenes to look like in "Anora."

Film is a visual medium that can require some unusual behind the scenes methods to achieve the intended result, and Heath showing Blake one-second of that video is just so minor.

I know the pro-Lively people will say, "Well, the difference is that Mikey consented." But even the mere suggestion of certain things or the mere asking of questions was enough for Blake to include these instances in her complaint.

That's revolting, sorry.

But yeah, consent is relevant. Also relevant is the fact that Heath showed Lively the video AFTER they had already shot the birth scene. It was not shown to her as an instruction for how they wanted the scene to look. If that's what they wanted to do, they could have suggested it and made sure she was cool with it (just as I sure hope Sean Baker presumably did with Madison) before the scene was shot.

Also, I just want to add that it's insane to me that they wanted to use Heath's wife's birth experience and video as a model for how the birth scene looked. To be clear, this was a movie about a woman who has a kid with a guy who is physically and emotionally abusing her, and it is the birth of her daughter that makes her realize she cannot stay with him and needs to leave (the phrase "it ends with us" refers to the character's pledge to her baby). It's just really weird that they felt that was appropriate inspiration for the movie.

Also determined that you and the other Lively posters are childless and probably unmarried. Your lack of context shows. I’m guessing that one of you is late twenties, early thirties and the other main one, I’d say 50s or older. Im sure that I’m in the ballpark with all comments.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reddit also shows the Jamie Heath birth video that Blake claimed was pornography. I won’t post it here but wow. A family cuddling their newborn, with the birthing mom (Heath’s wife) being covered by a blanket throughout most of video. Music of Maxwell (I think) playing in the background, somewhat spiritual, a song about a woman’s worth.

And this was claimed by Blake as being pornographic—Justin and Jamie attempting to show her porn?

Wow. More receipts by Baldoni. Another fabrication by Blake.

I’m not sure what was on the screen when it was shown to Lively, but a screen grab that was posted a month ago seemed to show a mostly naked (?) Jamie Heath in a tub laying behind his also mostly naked wife, with the baby on top in a towel. What I mostly noticed from this was two mostly naked people in a tub, which I also wouldn’t want to watch tbh and which I might also confuse with a different kind of video. I am totally on Lively’s side here.

Contortions. You are always going to be on Lively’s side. If a millisecond of a frame showed a bare chest, you are going to claim “pornography.” It’s such an exaggerated posture, always looking to find or make any instance negative to feed your narrative. It’s sad that you are this type of person. Let me be clear:you are a jump to conclusions person just to prove a narrative that you know might be false. But you jump to conclusions to exacerbate a situation that you know may be false, but do it to have an excuse for your actions. Pathetic— and if Jeff wants to close the thread, let him.

I really don’t understand this comment since from my perspective you are doing all the things you say above but in favor of Baldoni, whose narrative about the SH you know might be false, since his own PR team believed he is a creep and that Lively believed she was SH’d. Different perspectives.

Where did you get that they think he's a creep? The texts where they say, "the whispering, the sexual connotations, oh gosh there is just so much"? The texts where, afterwards, they clarify that these were the rumors that Blake's team was fueling, and that they're worried about they would become public even if they're not true?

[Anonymous]

And who uses the word “creepy?” That’s such an unsophisticated and young persons term. Again, you are young and don’t work for any big law firm. Maybe a small solo practice or social work. Not a big law ounce in your bones or words.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sean Baker, who won Best Director this year, simulated sex with his wife to give Mikey Madison an idea of how he wanted scenes to look like in "Anora."

Film is a visual medium that can require some unusual behind the scenes methods to achieve the intended result, and Heath showing Blake one-second of that video is just so minor.

I know the pro-Lively people will say, "Well, the difference is that Mikey consented." But even the mere suggestion of certain things or the mere asking of questions was enough for Blake to include these instances in her complaint.

That's revolting, sorry.

But yeah, consent is relevant. Also relevant is the fact that Heath showed Lively the video AFTER they had already shot the birth scene. It was not shown to her as an instruction for how they wanted the scene to look. If that's what they wanted to do, they could have suggested it and made sure she was cool with it (just as I sure hope Sean Baker presumably did with Madison) before the scene was shot.

Also, I just want to add that it's insane to me that they wanted to use Heath's wife's birth experience and video as a model for how the birth scene looked. To be clear, this was a movie about a woman who has a kid with a guy who is physically and emotionally abusing her, and it is the birth of her daughter that makes her realize she cannot stay with him and needs to leave (the phrase "it ends with us" refers to the character's pledge to her baby). It's just really weird that they felt that was appropriate inspiration for the movie.

Also determined that you and the other Lively posters are childless and probably unmarried. Your lack of context shows. I’m guessing that one of you is late twenties, early thirties and the other main one, I’d say 50s or older. Im sure that I’m in the ballpark with all comments.

Lol are you JD Vance?