Options for opposing Connecticut Avenue changes?

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, we all know that the original poster is a liar. Everyone in the neighborhood has know about this for nearly 2 year. If they haven't that means they just moved here last week.

Not true. I've been asking my neighbors, we all lived her for over 20 years. No one knew about it. We used to get newsletters from our ANC rep, but those stopped a while back.

The ANC publicized it, DDOT publicized it, the WPCA, CPCA, CCCA and Forest Hills blog all promoted, it was on twitter,, facebook, the Cleveland Park, and Chevy Chase mail groups, and there was a 100 page thread about it in this forum.

There were over 50 public meetings, all of them announced and publicized.

The ANCs are stacked with young and/or childless renters. They have a radical progressive agenda and don’t listen to their constituents. Last month 60% of ANC 3F constituents said they opposed a marijuana dispensary in Van Ness, yet the commissioners dismissed the survey and spent 20 minutes brainstorming on how they could still support a hopelessly flawed and dangerous proposal. It was shocking to watch.

The ANCs are voted in by the people who live in the districts. If you don’t like they way they vote then vote them out. There is an election in two months.

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These lanes all sound great on paper. But here’s the thing, in order for them to not be a total nightmare it will require the city to provide traffic enforcement all day, every weekday to prevent trucks and cars from double parking? Does anyone think that will actually happen? Of course not. If you go out to CT Ave right NOW you will find at least five delivery trucks, postal trucks, contractors and rude people with their blinking lights on. Has DDOT committed resources to mitigate this?

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Anonymous wrote:So the city's policy is to build as much housing as possible, to accommodate more people, but reduce the capacity of roads to handle their cars?

Can we do the opposite?

Make people's lives better by making it easier to get around, and discourage more people from moving here?

You should visit Houston sometime. Massive roads down there. Lots of low density housing. You should love it.

you know dc is one of the most densely populated cities in the western hemisphere, right?

The point was that the poster seems to want DC to be a very different city. The city they seem to want is probably best represented by Houston, which builds massive freeways just for the hell of it. I moved to DC because I like density and I like being able to get around without driving everywhere. Other people like that about DC too.

"the city they seem to want."

sweetie, i'm the pp and ive been in dc longer than you've been alive. I know you just moved here from shitty town, indiana and you have all the answers and know all about life in the big city, but maybe you should keep quiet and let the adults talk.

The "adults" are the ones who brought us the car-dependent auto-centric neighborhoods. It has proven to be a disaster in terms of land use, ecology and environmental sustainability, much less transportation policy. As such, you might want to sit this one out and let the rest of us implement something that works for the broader society and not the single family homeowners who take up more space with their inefecient use of land and public space with their inefficient auto-centric built environment.

NP. Except the adults in the room who own single family homes in the District make more money, pay more in taxes and essentially keep this city going. You realize that without ys your city goes to sh*t, right?

How utterly pathetic can you get? Just because you own a SFH doesn't make you any better - or give your voice any more importance - than those who don't. Those drunk homeless people you complain about have the same vote you do. You are not better than them or anyone else. I'm embarrassed to share a city with you. It's folk that you that give us - Ward 3 homeowners - a bad name.

Actually i was a NP and never mentioned homeless but hey, newsflash, homeless people don’t vote.

Says who? Says you? They are entitled to vote. They are entitled to participate in ANC meetings. They are entitled to an opinion. And, in not laboring under the ridiculous assumption that owning a home gives them some priveleged position in society, are doing a hell of a lot better than you are.

Actually i don’t feel more important or privileged at all and despite your idiotic conclusions have tremendous empathy for those with less. I was pointing out 2 obvious ( or rather what should be obvious points) 1- if you drive out high earning tax paying residents DC goes to sh*t like it was in the 80’s and 90’s and (2) homeless people without an ID or proof of residence are not “entitled” to vote nor is it my experience that they attend ANC meetings. Grow up and work on your critical reasoning skills.

Nice backpedaling, clown. Claiming that your voice is more important because you own your home is a sad, sad move. And thinking that a majority of your fellow home owners agree with your positions is foolish. I'd love to be at the meeting where you stand up, voice your opinion and then claim that it carries extra weight because you, uh, own your home. Please give us a heads up so we can be there to witness.

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Anonymous wrote:So the city's policy is to build as much housing as possible, to accommodate more people, but reduce the capacity of roads to handle their cars?

Can we do the opposite?

Make people's lives better by making it easier to get around, and discourage more people from moving here?

You should visit Houston sometime. Massive roads down there. Lots of low density housing. You should love it.

you know dc is one of the most densely populated cities in the western hemisphere, right?

The point was that the poster seems to want DC to be a very different city. The city they seem to want is probably best represented by Houston, which builds massive freeways just for the hell of it. I moved to DC because I like density and I like being able to get around without driving everywhere. Other people like that about DC too.

"the city they seem to want."

sweetie, i'm the pp and ive been in dc longer than you've been alive. I know you just moved here from shitty town, indiana and you have all the answers and know all about life in the big city, but maybe you should keep quiet and let the adults talk.

The "adults" are the ones who brought us the car-dependent auto-centric neighborhoods. It has proven to be a disaster in terms of land use, ecology and environmental sustainability, much less transportation policy. As such, you might want to sit this one out and let the rest of us implement something that works for the broader society and not the single family homeowners who take up more space with their inefecient use of land and public space with their inefficient auto-centric built environment.

NP. Except the adults in the room who own single family homes in the District make more money, pay more in taxes and essentially keep this city going. You realize that without ys your city goes to sh*t, right?

How utterly pathetic can you get? Just because you own a SFH doesn't make you any better - or give your voice any more importance - than those who don't. Those drunk homeless people you complain about have the same vote you do. You are not better than them or anyone else. I'm embarrassed to share a city with you. It's folk that you that give us - Ward 3 homeowners - a bad name.

Actually i was a NP and never mentioned homeless but hey, newsflash, homeless people don’t vote.

Says who? Says you? They are entitled to vote. They are entitled to participate in ANC meetings. They are entitled to an opinion. And, in not laboring under the ridiculous assumption that owning a home gives them some priveleged position in society, are doing a hell of a lot better than you are.

Actually i don’t feel more important or privileged at all and despite your idiotic conclusions have tremendous empathy for those with less. I was pointing out 2 obvious ( or rather what should be obvious points) 1- if you drive out high earning tax paying residents DC goes to sh*t like it was in the 80’s and 90’s and (2) homeless people without an ID or proof of residence are not “entitled” to vote nor is it my experience that they attend ANC meetings. Grow up and work on your critical reasoning skills.

Nice backpedaling, clown. Claiming that your voice is more important because you own your home is a sad, sad move. And thinking that a majority of your fellow home owners agree with your positions is foolish. I'd love to be at the meeting where you stand up, voice your opinion and then claim that it carries extra weight because you, uh, own your home. Please give us a heads up so we can be there to witness.

No one of course has more than a single vote, whether they own a home or a car or neither. But being a homeowner myself, I am opposed to these changes. Traffic in fact has NOT gotten worse over the last multiple decades, and I have been driving CT Avenue since the 1980s. Of course, there will be an occasional accident but no evidence exists that a rampant problem exists. Moreover, as a PP mentioned, driving high income taxpayers out of DC will hurt. DC has done well financially over the last few decades primarily due to the high income taxpayers. At the Federal level, the top 1% pays roughly 40% of all income taxes, and the top 50% pay over 95% of all income taxes. Simply stated, DC's social programs depend on the high income taxpayers remaining in DC. No money, no social programs.

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Anonymous wrote:So the city's policy is to build as much housing as possible, to accommodate more people, but reduce the capacity of roads to handle their cars?

Can we do the opposite?

Make people's lives better by making it easier to get around, and discourage more people from moving here?

You should visit Houston sometime. Massive roads down there. Lots of low density housing. You should love it.

you know dc is one of the most densely populated cities in the western hemisphere, right?

The point was that the poster seems to want DC to be a very different city. The city they seem to want is probably best represented by Houston, which builds massive freeways just for the hell of it. I moved to DC because I like density and I like being able to get around without driving everywhere. Other people like that about DC too.

"the city they seem to want."

sweetie, i'm the pp and ive been in dc longer than you've been alive. I know you just moved here from shitty town, indiana and you have all the answers and know all about life in the big city, but maybe you should keep quiet and let the adults talk.

The "adults" are the ones who brought us the car-dependent auto-centric neighborhoods. It has proven to be a disaster in terms of land use, ecology and environmental sustainability, much less transportation policy. As such, you might want to sit this one out and let the rest of us implement something that works for the broader society and not the single family homeowners who take up more space with their inefecient use of land and public space with their inefficient auto-centric built environment.

NP. Except the adults in the room who own single family homes in the District make more money, pay more in taxes and essentially keep this city going. You realize that without ys your city goes to sh*t, right?

How utterly pathetic can you get? Just because you own a SFH doesn't make you any better - or give your voice any more importance - than those who don't. Those drunk homeless people you complain about have the same vote you do. You are not better than them or anyone else. I'm embarrassed to share a city with you. It's folk that you that give us - Ward 3 homeowners - a bad name.

Actually i was a NP and never mentioned homeless but hey, newsflash, homeless people don’t vote.

Says who? Says you? They are entitled to vote. They are entitled to participate in ANC meetings. They are entitled to an opinion. And, in not laboring under the ridiculous assumption that owning a home gives them some priveleged position in society, are doing a hell of a lot better than you are.

Actually i don’t feel more important or privileged at all and despite your idiotic conclusions have tremendous empathy for those with less. I was pointing out 2 obvious ( or rather what should be obvious points) 1- if you drive out high earning tax paying residents DC goes to sh*t like it was in the 80’s and 90’s and (2) homeless people without an ID or proof of residence are not “entitled” to vote nor is it my experience that they attend ANC meetings. Grow up and work on your critical reasoning skills.

Nice backpedaling, clown. Claiming that your voice is more important because you own your home is a sad, sad move. And thinking that a majority of your fellow home owners agree with your positions is foolish. I'd love to be at the meeting where you stand up, voice your opinion and then claim that it carries extra weight because you, uh, own your home. Please give us a heads up so we can be there to witness.

No one of course has more than a single vote, whether they own a home or a car or neither. But being a homeowner myself, I am opposed to these changes. Traffic in fact has NOT gotten worse over the last multiple decades, and I have been driving CT Avenue since the 1980s. Of course, there will be an occasional accident but no evidence exists that a rampant problem exists. Moreover, as a PP mentioned, driving high income taxpayers out of DC will hurt. DC has done well financially over the last few decades primarily due to the high income taxpayers. At the Federal level, the top 1% pays roughly 40% of all income taxes, and the top 50% pay over 95% of all income taxes. Simply stated, DC's social programs depend on the high income taxpayers remaining in DC. No money, no social programs.

Ok, so as one person opposed to these changes you can vote for an ANC and council person aligned with your views.

I also am a high-earning DC resident (and homeowner, which I think makes no difference but you seem to) and I am in favor of these changes. DC making it easier for people to get around without cars is very appealing to me and makes me more likely to stay in DC. If you are driven out of DC by pedestrians and biker friendly policies I am sure someone will but your house for a nice chunk of change

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Anonymous wrote:So the city's policy is to build as much housing as possible, to accommodate more people, but reduce the capacity of roads to handle their cars?

Can we do the opposite?

Make people's lives better by making it easier to get around, and discourage more people from moving here?

You should visit Houston sometime. Massive roads down there. Lots of low density housing. You should love it.

you know dc is one of the most densely populated cities in the western hemisphere, right?

The point was that the poster seems to want DC to be a very different city. The city they seem to want is probably best represented by Houston, which builds massive freeways just for the hell of it. I moved to DC because I like density and I like being able to get around without driving everywhere. Other people like that about DC too.

"the city they seem to want."

sweetie, i'm the pp and ive been in dc longer than you've been alive. I know you just moved here from shitty town, indiana and you have all the answers and know all about life in the big city, but maybe you should keep quiet and let the adults talk.

The "adults" are the ones who brought us the car-dependent auto-centric neighborhoods. It has proven to be a disaster in terms of land use, ecology and environmental sustainability, much less transportation policy. As such, you might want to sit this one out and let the rest of us implement something that works for the broader society and not the single family homeowners who take up more space with their inefecient use of land and public space with their inefficient auto-centric built environment.

NP. Except the adults in the room who own single family homes in the District make more money, pay more in taxes and essentially keep this city going. You realize that without ys your city goes to sh*t, right?

How utterly pathetic can you get? Just because you own a SFH doesn't make you any better - or give your voice any more importance - than those who don't. Those drunk homeless people you complain about have the same vote you do. You are not better than them or anyone else. I'm embarrassed to share a city with you. It's folk that you that give us - Ward 3 homeowners - a bad name.

Actually i was a NP and never mentioned homeless but hey, newsflash, homeless people don’t vote.

Says who? Says you? They are entitled to vote. They are entitled to participate in ANC meetings. They are entitled to an opinion. And, in not laboring under the ridiculous assumption that owning a home gives them some priveleged position in society, are doing a hell of a lot better than you are.

Actually i don’t feel more important or privileged at all and despite your idiotic conclusions have tremendous empathy for those with less. I was pointing out 2 obvious ( or rather what should be obvious points) 1- if you drive out high earning tax paying residents DC goes to sh*t like it was in the 80’s and 90’s and (2) homeless people without an ID or proof of residence are not “entitled” to vote nor is it my experience that they attend ANC meetings. Grow up and work on your critical reasoning skills.

Nice backpedaling, clown. Claiming that your voice is more important because you own your home is a sad, sad move. And thinking that a majority of your fellow home owners agree with your positions is foolish. I'd love to be at the meeting where you stand up, voice your opinion and then claim that it carries extra weight because you, uh, own your home. Please give us a heads up so we can be there to witness.

No one of course has more than a single vote, whether they own a home or a car or neither. But being a homeowner myself, I am opposed to these changes. Traffic in fact has NOT gotten worse over the last multiple decades, and I have been driving CT Avenue since the 1980s. Of course, there will be an occasional accident but no evidence exists that a rampant problem exists. Moreover, as a PP mentioned, driving high income taxpayers out of DC will hurt. DC has done well financially over the last few decades primarily due to the high income taxpayers. At the Federal level, the top 1% pays roughly 40% of all income taxes, and the top 50% pay over 95% of all income taxes. Simply stated, DC's social programs depend on the high income taxpayers remaining in DC. No money, no social programs.

When you sink your life savings into a house, and you attend the local church, and you send your kids to the local public schools then yeah, the ANCs should listen a little more to you over a 20 something renter who will probably move to Cleveland or Richmond in a year or two.

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Anonymous wrote:So the city's policy is to build as much housing as possible, to accommodate more people, but reduce the capacity of roads to handle their cars?

Can we do the opposite?

Make people's lives better by making it easier to get around, and discourage more people from moving here?

You should visit Houston sometime. Massive roads down there. Lots of low density housing. You should love it.

you know dc is one of the most densely populated cities in the western hemisphere, right?

The point was that the poster seems to want DC to be a very different city. The city they seem to want is probably best represented by Houston, which builds massive freeways just for the hell of it. I moved to DC because I like density and I like being able to get around without driving everywhere. Other people like that about DC too.

"the city they seem to want."

sweetie, i'm the pp and ive been in dc longer than you've been alive. I know you just moved here from shitty town, indiana and you have all the answers and know all about life in the big city, but maybe you should keep quiet and let the adults talk.

The "adults" are the ones who brought us the car-dependent auto-centric neighborhoods. It has proven to be a disaster in terms of land use, ecology and environmental sustainability, much less transportation policy. As such, you might want to sit this one out and let the rest of us implement something that works for the broader society and not the single family homeowners who take up more space with their inefecient use of land and public space with their inefficient auto-centric built environment.

NP. Except the adults in the room who own single family homes in the District make more money, pay more in taxes and essentially keep this city going. You realize that without ys your city goes to sh*t, right?

How utterly pathetic can you get? Just because you own a SFH doesn't make you any better - or give your voice any more importance - than those who don't. Those drunk homeless people you complain about have the same vote you do. You are not better than them or anyone else. I'm embarrassed to share a city with you. It's folk that you that give us - Ward 3 homeowners - a bad name.

Actually i was a NP and never mentioned homeless but hey, newsflash, homeless people don’t vote.

Says who? Says you? They are entitled to vote. They are entitled to participate in ANC meetings. They are entitled to an opinion. And, in not laboring under the ridiculous assumption that owning a home gives them some priveleged position in society, are doing a hell of a lot better than you are.

Actually i don’t feel more important or privileged at all and despite your idiotic conclusions have tremendous empathy for those with less. I was pointing out 2 obvious ( or rather what should be obvious points) 1- if you drive out high earning tax paying residents DC goes to sh*t like it was in the 80’s and 90’s and (2) homeless people without an ID or proof of residence are not “entitled” to vote nor is it my experience that they attend ANC meetings. Grow up and work on your critical reasoning skills.

Nice backpedaling, clown. Claiming that your voice is more important because you own your home is a sad, sad move. And thinking that a majority of your fellow home owners agree with your positions is foolish. I'd love to be at the meeting where you stand up, voice your opinion and then claim that it carries extra weight because you, uh, own your home. Please give us a heads up so we can be there to witness.

No one of course has more than a single vote, whether they own a home or a car or neither. But being a homeowner myself, I am opposed to these changes. Traffic in fact has NOT gotten worse over the last multiple decades, and I have been driving CT Avenue since the 1980s. Of course, there will be an occasional accident but no evidence exists that a rampant problem exists. Moreover, as a PP mentioned, driving high income taxpayers out of DC will hurt. DC has done well financially over the last few decades primarily due to the high income taxpayers. At the Federal level, the top 1% pays roughly 40% of all income taxes, and the top 50% pay over 95% of all income taxes. Simply stated, DC's social programs depend on the high income taxpayers remaining in DC. No money, no social programs.

I own an SFH and the point you are making is silly. Renters pay all taxes that homeowners pay bar property taxes (which are thankfully low in DC). Non-resident homeowners pay property taxes with the rent paid by renters. Competition among renters drives up rents, which drives up property prices and tax revenue. Arguing that homeowners have some special role in keeping the city afloat is not on great foundations.

DC revitalized itself by attracting people to move here in the 00s and 10s. Many of those were attracted by urbanist infra like bike lanes - in the early 10s, 88% of new DC residents didn't own a vehicle according to the census bureau. Had these people not moved to DC, the city would be what inner Baltimore or Philly are today and you long-term residents wouldn't be too happy, assuming that is the blight hadn't driven you out. You're welcome.

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Anonymous wrote:So the city's policy is to build as much housing as possible, to accommodate more people, but reduce the capacity of roads to handle their cars?

Can we do the opposite?

Make people's lives better by making it easier to get around, and discourage more people from moving here?

You should visit Houston sometime. Massive roads down there. Lots of low density housing. You should love it.

you know dc is one of the most densely populated cities in the western hemisphere, right?

The point was that the poster seems to want DC to be a very different city. The city they seem to want is probably best represented by Houston, which builds massive freeways just for the hell of it. I moved to DC because I like density and I like being able to get around without driving everywhere. Other people like that about DC too.

"the city they seem to want."

sweetie, i'm the pp and ive been in dc longer than you've been alive. I know you just moved here from shitty town, indiana and you have all the answers and know all about life in the big city, but maybe you should keep quiet and let the adults talk.

The "adults" are the ones who brought us the car-dependent auto-centric neighborhoods. It has proven to be a disaster in terms of land use, ecology and environmental sustainability, much less transportation policy. As such, you might want to sit this one out and let the rest of us implement something that works for the broader society and not the single family homeowners who take up more space with their inefecient use of land and public space with their inefficient auto-centric built environment.

NP. Except the adults in the room who own single family homes in the District make more money, pay more in taxes and essentially keep this city going. You realize that without ys your city goes to sh*t, right?

How utterly pathetic can you get? Just because you own a SFH doesn't make you any better - or give your voice any more importance - than those who don't. Those drunk homeless people you complain about have the same vote you do. You are not better than them or anyone else. I'm embarrassed to share a city with you. It's folk that you that give us - Ward 3 homeowners - a bad name.

Actually i was a NP and never mentioned homeless but hey, newsflash, homeless people don’t vote.

Says who? Says you? They are entitled to vote. They are entitled to participate in ANC meetings. They are entitled to an opinion. And, in not laboring under the ridiculous assumption that owning a home gives them some priveleged position in society, are doing a hell of a lot better than you are.

Actually i don’t feel more important or privileged at all and despite your idiotic conclusions have tremendous empathy for those with less. I was pointing out 2 obvious ( or rather what should be obvious points) 1- if you drive out high earning tax paying residents DC goes to sh*t like it was in the 80’s and 90’s and (2) homeless people without an ID or proof of residence are not “entitled” to vote nor is it my experience that they attend ANC meetings. Grow up and work on your critical reasoning skills.

Nice backpedaling, clown. Claiming that your voice is more important because you own your home is a sad, sad move. And thinking that a majority of your fellow home owners agree with your positions is foolish. I'd love to be at the meeting where you stand up, voice your opinion and then claim that it carries extra weight because you, uh, own your home. Please give us a heads up so we can be there to witness.

No one of course has more than a single vote, whether they own a home or a car or neither. But being a homeowner myself, I am opposed to these changes. Traffic in fact has NOT gotten worse over the last multiple decades, and I have been driving CT Avenue since the 1980s. Of course, there will be an occasional accident but no evidence exists that a rampant problem exists. Moreover, as a PP mentioned, driving high income taxpayers out of DC will hurt. DC has done well financially over the last few decades primarily due to the high income taxpayers. At the Federal level, the top 1% pays roughly 40% of all income taxes, and the top 50% pay over 95% of all income taxes. Simply stated, DC's social programs depend on the high income taxpayers remaining in DC. No money, no social programs.

When you sink your life savings into a house, and you attend the local church, and you send your kids to the local public schools then yeah, the ANCs should listen a little more to you over a 20 something renter who will probably move to Cleveland or Richmond in a year or two.

There was a time when only property holders could vote. A lot of other interesting laws were on the books then as well. Maybe you'd prefer if we brought them all back?

I tick all your boxes bar going to church ("no, ma'am, you can't speak for you are a filthy heathen!") and what you are saying is asinine, chauvinist, obnoxious and embarrassing to your fellow long-term residents.

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Anonymous wrote:all this for the city's least popular method of transportation. it would be great if the city focused less on bikes and more on ways of getting around that significant numbers of people actually use.

If less people drove cars, more able-bodied people would be alive today, climate variability would be less, the projected annual temperature increase would be less, our governments would have more money to give back to the population in tax cuts or to spend on productive social programs, and more people would have more time to spend on productive endeavors rather than being stuck in traffic. But yet we should be encouraging people to drive more, right?

But I like my car, and plan to continue using it in DC.

No one is telling you you can't. We just want the same thing for bikes - a place to ride that is safe and easily accessible to the shops and stores we want to support.

What are the licensing, helmeting and speed limit rules going to be?

You don't need a license to ride a bike because bikes are significantly less dangerous to other people than cars are. D.C. has no helmet law, so that's the rule for that. And the speed limits for bikes on the road are the same as they are for cars. I suspect bikes will have an easier time adhering to them.

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Anonymous wrote:Will there be bike racks installed on every block? Genuinely curious where all of the bikes are going to be parked and how they will be secured. I've had my bike stolen in the past and I've watched several videos of bike thieves taking a bike downtown in 10 seconds flat in the middle of the day on a crowded sidewalk. I never make any stops when out on my bike now because I am not comfortable leaving it. Is there something in the plan that provides safe, secure storage?

I don't think this is a good reason to oppose bike lanes or, really, even something that the D.C. bike lane plan ought to address. The city has provided insufficient bike racks, yes, but a lot of businesses also have bike parking in their garages.

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When did it become the general consensus around here that the ANCs primarily represent the voices of transient young renters? That has not been my experience in observing ANCs over more than 20 years living in D.C. (and more than 15 years owning property here).

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, we all know that the original poster is a liar. Everyone in the neighborhood has know about this for nearly 2 year. If they haven't that means they just moved here last week.

Not true. I've been asking my neighbors, we all lived her for over 20 years. No one knew about it. We used to get newsletters from our ANC rep, but those stopped a while back.

+1 We live on the corridor and just learned of it last week. My neighbors on either side had not heard of it either.

On my block, we knew. You are not paying attention and that is on you. If you want a voice, you need to tune in to your community.

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Anonymous wrote:So the city's policy is to build as much housing as possible, to accommodate more people, but reduce the capacity of roads to handle their cars?

Can we do the opposite?

Make people's lives better by making it easier to get around, and discourage more people from moving here?

You should visit Houston sometime. Massive roads down there. Lots of low density housing. You should love it.

you know dc is one of the most densely populated cities in the western hemisphere, right?

The point was that the poster seems to want DC to be a very different city. The city they seem to want is probably best represented by Houston, which builds massive freeways just for the hell of it. I moved to DC because I like density and I like being able to get around without driving everywhere. Other people like that about DC too.

"the city they seem to want."

sweetie, i'm the pp and ive been in dc longer than you've been alive. I know you just moved here from shitty town, indiana and you have all the answers and know all about life in the big city, but maybe you should keep quiet and let the adults talk.

The "adults" are the ones who brought us the car-dependent auto-centric neighborhoods. It has proven to be a disaster in terms of land use, ecology and environmental sustainability, much less transportation policy. As such, you might want to sit this one out and let the rest of us implement something that works for the broader society and not the single family homeowners who take up more space with their inefecient use of land and public space with their inefficient auto-centric built environment.

NP. Except the adults in the room who own single family homes in the District make more money, pay more in taxes and essentially keep this city going. You realize that without ys your city goes to sh*t, right?

How utterly pathetic can you get? Just because you own a SFH doesn't make you any better - or give your voice any more importance - than those who don't. Those drunk homeless people you complain about have the same vote you do. You are not better than them or anyone else. I'm embarrassed to share a city with you. It's folk that you that give us - Ward 3 homeowners - a bad name.

Actually i was a NP and never mentioned homeless but hey, newsflash, homeless people don’t vote.

Says who? Says you? They are entitled to vote. They are entitled to participate in ANC meetings. They are entitled to an opinion. And, in not laboring under the ridiculous assumption that owning a home gives them some priveleged position in society, are doing a hell of a lot better than you are.

Actually i don’t feel more important or privileged at all and despite your idiotic conclusions have tremendous empathy for those with less. I was pointing out 2 obvious ( or rather what should be obvious points) 1- if you drive out high earning tax paying residents DC goes to sh*t like it was in the 80’s and 90’s and (2) homeless people without an ID or proof of residence are not “entitled” to vote nor is it my experience that they attend ANC meetings. Grow up and work on your critical reasoning skills.

Nice backpedaling, clown. Claiming that your voice is more important because you own your home is a sad, sad move. And thinking that a majority of your fellow home owners agree with your positions is foolish. I'd love to be at the meeting where you stand up, voice your opinion and then claim that it carries extra weight because you, uh, own your home. Please give us a heads up so we can be there to witness.

No one of course has more than a single vote, whether they own a home or a car or neither. But being a homeowner myself, I am opposed to these changes. Traffic in fact has NOT gotten worse over the last multiple decades, and I have been driving CT Avenue since the 1980s. Of course, there will be an occasional accident but no evidence exists that a rampant problem exists. Moreover, as a PP mentioned, driving high income taxpayers out of DC will hurt. DC has done well financially over the last few decades primarily due to the high income taxpayers. At the Federal level, the top 1% pays roughly 40% of all income taxes, and the top 50% pay over 95% of all income taxes. Simply stated, DC's social programs depend on the high income taxpayers remaining in DC. No money, no social programs.

I own an SFH and the point you are making is silly. Renters pay all taxes that homeowners pay bar property taxes (which are thankfully low in DC). Non-resident homeowners pay property taxes with the rent paid by renters. Competition among renters drives up rents, which drives up property prices and tax revenue. Arguing that homeowners have some special role in keeping the city afloat is not on great foundations.

DC revitalized itself by attracting people to move here in the 00s and 10s. Many of those were attracted by urbanist infra like bike lanes - in the early 10s, 88% of new DC residents didn't own a vehicle according to the census bureau. Had these people not moved to DC, the city would be what inner Baltimore or Philly are today and you long-term residents wouldn't be too happy, assuming that is the blight hadn't driven you out. You're welcome.

Also, renters pay property taxes in the sense that landlords need to be able to cover their costs in order to rent out their units. Obviously demand has a factor in rent prices but certainly landlords try to cover their costs out so any increase in property taxes will lead to an increase in rent.

I own a rental unit in DC and think my tenants are just as entitled to have their voices heard as I am.

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Anonymous wrote:When did it become the general consensus around here that the ANCs primarily represent the voices of transient young renters? That has not been my experience in observing ANCs over more than 20 years living in D.C. (and more than 15 years owning property here).

Th3 general consensus is that ANCs represent nobody but themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, we all know that the original poster is a liar. Everyone in the neighborhood has know about this for nearly 2 year. If they haven't that means they just moved here last week.

Not true. I've been asking my neighbors, we all lived her for over 20 years. No one knew about it. We used to get newsletters from our ANC rep, but those stopped a while back.

+1 We live on the corridor and just learned of it last week. My neighbors on either side had not heard of it either.

On my block, we knew. You are not paying attention and that is on you. If you want a voice, you need to tune in to your community.

Bullshit. I talk to my neighbors regularly. The discussion was primarily based on adding housing. Nobody knew that there was this cockamamie plan to eliminate two lanes of Commecticut and intentionally cause a clusterf@ck because it makes no sense and does not logically correlate with increasing housing density on the corridor.