Options for opposing Connecticut Avenue changes?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So the city's policy is to build as much housing as possible, to accommodate more people, but reduce the capacity of roads to handle their cars?

Can we do the opposite?

Make people's lives better by making it easier to get around, and discourage more people from moving here?

You should visit Houston sometime. Massive roads down there. Lots of low density housing. You should love it.

you know dc is one of the most densely populated cities in the western hemisphere, right?

The point was that the poster seems to want DC to be a very different city. The city they seem to want is probably best represented by Houston, which builds massive freeways just for the hell of it. I moved to DC because I like density and I like being able to get around without driving everywhere. Other people like that about DC too.

"the city they seem to want."

sweetie, i'm the pp and ive been in dc longer than you've been alive. I know you just moved here from shitty town, indiana and you have all the answers and know all about life in the big city, but maybe you should keep quiet and let the adults talk.

The "adults" are the ones who brought us the car-dependent auto-centric neighborhoods. It has proven to be a disaster in terms of land use, ecology and environmental sustainability, much less transportation policy. As such, you might want to sit this one out and let the rest of us implement something that works for the broader society and not the single family homeowners who take up more space with their inefecient use of land and public space with their inefficient auto-centric built environment.

Horse and buggies for all. It's more enviromentally friendly and efficient than bikes. It is even made of entirely renewable resources!

I'll take some of that compost!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Come on, we all know that the original poster is a liar. Everyone in the neighborhood has know about this for nearly 2 year. If they haven't that means they just moved here last week.

Not true. I've been asking my neighbors, we all lived her for over 20 years. No one knew about it. We used to get newsletters from our ANC rep, but those stopped a while back.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So the city's policy is to build as much housing as possible, to accommodate more people, but reduce the capacity of roads to handle their cars?

Can we do the opposite?

Make people's lives better by making it easier to get around, and discourage more people from moving here?

You should visit Houston sometime. Massive roads down there. Lots of low density housing. You should love it.

you know dc is one of the most densely populated cities in the western hemisphere, right?

The point was that the poster seems to want DC to be a very different city. The city they seem to want is probably best represented by Houston, which builds massive freeways just for the hell of it. I moved to DC because I like density and I like being able to get around without driving everywhere. Other people like that about DC too.

"the city they seem to want."

sweetie, i'm the pp and ive been in dc longer than you've been alive. I know you just moved here from shitty town, indiana and you have all the answers and know all about life in the big city, but maybe you should keep quiet and let the adults talk.

The "adults" are the ones who brought us the car-dependent auto-centric neighborhoods. It has proven to be a disaster in terms of land use, ecology and environmental sustainability, much less transportation policy. As such, you might want to sit this one out and let the rest of us implement something that works for the broader society and not the single family homeowners who take up more space with their inefecient use of land and public space with their inefficient auto-centric built environment.

NP. Except the adults in the room who own single family homes in the District make more money, pay more in taxes and essentially keep this city going. You realize that without ys your city goes to sh*t, right?

How utterly pathetic can you get? Just because you own a SFH doesn't make you any better - or give your voice any more importance - than those who don't. Those drunk homeless people you complain about have the same vote you do. You are not better than them or anyone else. I'm embarrassed to share a city with you. It's folk that you that give us - Ward 3 homeowners - a bad name.

Actually i was a NP and never mentioned homeless but hey, newsflash, homeless people don’t vote.

Says who? Says you? They are entitled to vote. They are entitled to participate in ANC meetings. They are entitled to an opinion. And, in not laboring under the ridiculous assumption that owning a home gives them some priveleged position in society, are doing a hell of a lot better than you are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the city's policy is to build as much housing as possible, to accommodate more people, but reduce the capacity of roads to handle their cars?

Can we do the opposite?

Make people's lives better by making it easier to get around, and discourage more people from moving here?

You should visit Houston sometime. Massive roads down there. Lots of low density housing. You should love it.

you know dc is one of the most densely populated cities in the western hemisphere, right?

The point was that the poster seems to want DC to be a very different city. The city they seem to want is probably best represented by Houston, which builds massive freeways just for the hell of it. I moved to DC because I like density and I like being able to get around without driving everywhere. Other people like that about DC too.

"the city they seem to want."

sweetie, i'm the pp and ive been in dc longer than you've been alive. I know you just moved here from shitty town, indiana and you have all the answers and know all about life in the big city, but maybe you should keep quiet and let the adults talk.

The "adults" are the ones who brought us the car-dependent auto-centric neighborhoods. It has proven to be a disaster in terms of land use, ecology and environmental sustainability, much less transportation policy. As such, you might want to sit this one out and let the rest of us implement something that works for the broader society and not the single family homeowners who take up more space with their inefecient use of land and public space with their inefficient auto-centric built environment.

Horse and buggies for all. It's more enviromentally friendly and efficient than bikes. It is even made of entirely renewable resources!

I'll take some of that compost!

Plenty of it has shown up on this thread in opposition to the proposed bike lanes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:all this for the city's least popular method of transportation. it would be great if the city focused less on bikes and more on ways of getting around that significant numbers of people actually use.

If less people drove cars, more able-bodied people would be alive today, climate variability would be less, the projected annual temperature increase would be less, our governments would have more money to give back to the population in tax cuts or to spend on productive social programs, and more people would have more time to spend on productive endeavors rather than being stuck in traffic. But yet we should be encouraging people to drive more, right?

But I like my car, and plan to continue using it in DC.

That's nice. And when your grandchildren ask you why all the glaciers disappeared and what you did to help make the world they inherit a slightly more livable place, you can tell them that you drove all around a city that is perfectly navigable by transit, bike, and/or foot and strenuously advocated against transportation solutions designed to reduce climate emissions and make the city's streets safer for everyone.

I will tell them I stood up to liars, bullies and narcissists who had convinced themselves that they were trying to help but in the end onlyade things worse.

How cute. The anti-vaxxers, the climate deniers, the adherents to the Big Lie all tell themselves that too. And they share with you a common tendency to eschew facts, logic, and science in favor of total horseshit.

[Anonymous]

Here's the thing - you can't have it all. You have to choose between copious street parking, lax enforcement of parking and traffic regulations, unrestricted opportunities to turn left at every intersection (or even outside of intersections for carwashes and gas stations), neighborhood streets protected from commuters who are funneled onto major arteries, dedicated lanes for buses and/or bikes, and lots of commuter traffic and related patronage of local businesses.

You can't have all these things. Pick the bike lanes if you want, but understand the tradeoffs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So the city's policy is to build as much housing as possible, to accommodate more people, but reduce the capacity of roads to handle their cars?

Can we do the opposite?

Make people's lives better by making it easier to get around, and discourage more people from moving here?

Oh, you're in the wrong place. Try Martha's Vineyard? Or somewhere so exclusive we've never heard of it before. Maybe a Trump property? You'll never find what you're looking for here.

[Anonymous]

Will there be bike racks installed on every block? Genuinely curious where all of the bikes are going to be parked and how they will be secured. I've had my bike stolen in the past and I've watched several videos of bike thieves taking a bike downtown in 10 seconds flat in the middle of the day on a crowded sidewalk. I never make any stops when out on my bike now because I am not comfortable leaving it. Is there something in the plan that provides safe, secure storage?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, we all know that the original poster is a liar. Everyone in the neighborhood has know about this for nearly 2 year. If they haven't that means they just moved here last week.

Not true. I've been asking my neighbors, we all lived her for over 20 years. No one knew about it. We used to get newsletters from our ANC rep, but those stopped a while back.

The ANC publicized it, DDOT publicized it, the WPCA, CPCA, CCCA and Forest Hills blog all promoted, it was on twitter,, facebook, the Cleveland Park, and Chevy Chase mail groups, and there was a 100 page thread about it in this forum.

There were over 50 public meetings, all of them announced and publicized.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing - you can't have it all. You have to choose between copious street parking, lax enforcement of parking and traffic regulations, unrestricted opportunities to turn left at every intersection (or even outside of intersections for carwashes and gas stations), neighborhood streets protected from commuters who are funneled onto major arteries, dedicated lanes for buses and/or bikes, and lots of commuter traffic and related patronage of local businesses.

You can't have all these things. Pick the bike lanes if you want, but understand the tradeoffs.

Most of us are good with the tradeoffs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, we all know that the original poster is a liar. Everyone in the neighborhood has know about this for nearly 2 year. If they haven't that means they just moved here last week.

No we didn't. But more of us keep finding out and are shocked by how stupid an idea it is.

+10,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Will there be bike racks installed on every block? Genuinely curious where all of the bikes are going to be parked and how they will be secured. I've had my bike stolen in the past and I've watched several videos of bike thieves taking a bike downtown in 10 seconds flat in the middle of the day on a crowded sidewalk. I never make any stops when out on my bike now because I am not comfortable leaving it. Is there something in the plan that provides safe, secure storage?

Yes, but let your voice be heard that this is a priority.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the city's policy is to build as much housing as possible, to accommodate more people, but reduce the capacity of roads to handle their cars?

Can we do the opposite?

Make people's lives better by making it easier to get around, and discourage more people from moving here?

You should visit Houston sometime. Massive roads down there. Lots of low density housing. You should love it.

you know dc is one of the most densely populated cities in the western hemisphere, right?

The point was that the poster seems to want DC to be a very different city. The city they seem to want is probably best represented by Houston, which builds massive freeways just for the hell of it. I moved to DC because I like density and I like being able to get around without driving everywhere. Other people like that about DC too.

"the city they seem to want."

sweetie, i'm the pp and ive been in dc longer than you've been alive. I know you just moved here from shitty town, indiana and you have all the answers and know all about life in the big city, but maybe you should keep quiet and let the adults talk.

The "adults" are the ones who brought us the car-dependent auto-centric neighborhoods. It has proven to be a disaster in terms of land use, ecology and environmental sustainability, much less transportation policy. As such, you might want to sit this one out and let the rest of us implement something that works for the broader society and not the single family homeowners who take up more space with their inefecient use of land and public space with their inefficient auto-centric built environment.

NP. Except the adults in the room who own single family homes in the District make more money, pay more in taxes and essentially keep this city going. You realize that without ys your city goes to sh*t, right?

How utterly pathetic can you get? Just because you own a SFH doesn't make you any better - or give your voice any more importance - than those who don't. Those drunk homeless people you complain about have the same vote you do. You are not better than them or anyone else. I'm embarrassed to share a city with you. It's folk that you that give us - Ward 3 homeowners - a bad name.

Actually i was a NP and never mentioned homeless but hey, newsflash, homeless people don’t vote.

Says who? Says you? They are entitled to vote. They are entitled to participate in ANC meetings. They are entitled to an opinion. And, in not laboring under the ridiculous assumption that owning a home gives them some priveleged position in society, are doing a hell of a lot better than you are.

Actually i don’t feel more important or privileged at all and despite your idiotic conclusions have tremendous empathy for those with less. I was pointing out 2 obvious ( or rather what should be obvious points) 1- if you drive out high earning tax paying residents DC goes to sh*t like it was in the 80’s and 90’s and (2) homeless people without an ID or proof of residence are not “entitled” to vote nor is it my experience that they attend ANC meetings. Grow up and work on your critical reasoning skills.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, we all know that the original poster is a liar. Everyone in the neighborhood has know about this for nearly 2 year. If they haven't that means they just moved here last week.

Not true. I've been asking my neighbors, we all lived her for over 20 years. No one knew about it. We used to get newsletters from our ANC rep, but those stopped a while back.

+1 We live on the corridor and just learned of it last week. My neighbors on either side had not heard of it either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on, we all know that the original poster is a liar. Everyone in the neighborhood has know about this for nearly 2 year. If they haven't that means they just moved here last week.

Not true. I've been asking my neighbors, we all lived her for over 20 years. No one knew about it. We used to get newsletters from our ANC rep, but those stopped a while back.

The ANC publicized it, DDOT publicized it, the WPCA, CPCA, CCCA and Forest Hills blog all promoted, it was on twitter,, facebook, the Cleveland Park, and Chevy Chase mail groups, and there was a 100 page thread about it in this forum.

There were over 50 public meetings, all of them announced and publicized.

The ANCs are stacked with young and/or childless renters. They have a radical progressive agenda and don’t listen to their constituents. Last month 60% of ANC 3F constituents said they opposed a marijuana dispensary in Van Ness, yet the commissioners dismissed the survey and spent 20 minutes brainstorming on how they could still support a hopelessly flawed and dangerous proposal. It was shocking to watch.