ECNL moving to school year part 2

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Anonymous wrote:its sad that Mr Usys isnt getting the hint that people don't want him around

I think you got that backwards my friend.

When I’m proven right which I will be just remember this scene from Batman.


"I never said thank you," to which Batman replies from the rooftop edge, "And you'll never have to".

So age guy is Mr USYS

Now we know why he's pushing for 36 month older players to play down.

Playing down is the only way C team players can compete against correct age/grade players.

Word of advice. Instead of trying to cut corners maybe USYS should focus on making clubs and teams better.

it's funny how people were having a conversation without grade and you had to non sequitur in your grade goal. grade never part of nwe sy.

You mean your conversation with yourself?

Sorry grade exists and when its applied to your 36 month older player playing down nonsese people quickly see why it doesnt make sense.

find a post where somebody wants more than 12 month age group other than you. you've failed this challenge over and over. makes u a hypocrite.

Age guy / mr usys has been trying to start a rumor that leagues will start doing GY showcases for almost a year.

High schools allow students to be held back two times. This means 36 month older players (2 years older ie held back twice) in GY.

I'm confused. But aren't you the one pushing for grade alignment?

SY with August birthdays playing on the team thats their grade in school. Which is all 100% allowed under SY League rules. The oldest any player can be is born on 8/1 per year / level. End result is all players on the field are the same grade in school.

GY is any player a certain grade in school can play on the team. This allows 36 month older 2x held back "Sophmores" as an example.

The big difference is SY with Aug birthdays playing on their correct grade in school team is the most fair for the most players and it works well with p2p club processes.

I'm not pushing for anyone 36 months older to play with younger ones. But why are you pushing August kids to play up with grade but not allowing 36 month older kids to play with kids in their grade. Yes I realize there is a difference between 13 and 36 months, but who are you to decide which duration is appropriate vs too long? You are making a huge deal about grade alignment but you are not 100% consistent in age window.

You've been trying to start a GY showcase rumor for over a year. All based on your misinterpretation of US Soccers announcement that SY will allow more players in the same grade to play on the same teams. You are so determined to play 36 month older players against youger players that you concocted nonsense in your head about leagues allowing players to play down. To reinforce the nonsense you made up in your head you fight against Aug birthdays playing on their correct grade in school team. This would allow all players to be the same grade at games. Which is what college coaches want. Which you dont want because it eliminates the need to play 36 month older players down.

Aug birthdays playing on their correct grade in school team avoids 8th grade teams with Freshman that play HS soccer during the season. Which makes things much easier for clubs.

Being corectly aligned by playing on the correct grade in school team makes recruiting much easier for players. Which boosts college commitment numbers for clubs and players.

Some players have crap HS soccer programs and prefer to keep playing with club whenever possible, so they're good on playing with 8th graders, if they can under the rules.

Also, if correct alignment is essential for college recruitment, might as well as go to complete GY to appease all those coaches.

U18/U19 was created so holdbacks could play on their grade in school team Senior year.

Not sure your point since recruiting is largely done at that point.

And there it is. You want to play 36 month older players against younger player so they can get recruited. Nobody is stopping holdbacks from playing on teams with players their age. Totally possible to get recruited

Nope, they'll be unrecruitable! Wrong grade. Now, where have I heard THAT before?

Parents tried to cheat, they got caught and now their holdback kid has to follow the rules.

Nobody cares.

College coaches apparently do. They don't have time to find these players in they aren't in the RIGHT grade. This is why GY is necessary.

They don't.
Will this impact college recruiting?
The new two-year age group structure will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential—not the exact age grouping of their club team.

Psst ... Don't miss the sarcasm.

Sorry, can't miss an opportunity to point out the ridiculousness of Aug haters basis of his misinformation campaign to force many into bad decisions to help his girl.

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Anonymous wrote:its sad that Mr Usys isnt getting the hint that people don't want him around

I think you got that backwards my friend.

When I’m proven right which I will be just remember this scene from Batman.


"I never said thank you," to which Batman replies from the rooftop edge, "And you'll never have to".

So age guy is Mr USYS

Now we know why he's pushing for 36 month older players to play down.

Playing down is the only way C team players can compete against correct age/grade players.

Word of advice. Instead of trying to cut corners maybe USYS should focus on making clubs and teams better.

it's funny how people were having a conversation without grade and you had to non sequitur in your grade goal. grade never part of nwe sy.

You mean your conversation with yourself?

Sorry grade exists and when its applied to your 36 month older player playing down nonsese people quickly see why it doesnt make sense.

find a post where somebody wants more than 12 month age group other than you. you've failed this challenge over and over. makes u a hypocrite.

Age guy / mr usys has been trying to start a rumor that leagues will start doing GY showcases for almost a year.

High schools allow students to be held back two times. This means 36 month older players (2 years older ie held back twice) in GY.

I'm confused. But aren't you the one pushing for grade alignment?

SY with August birthdays playing on the team thats their grade in school. Which is all 100% allowed under SY League rules. The oldest any player can be is born on 8/1 per year / level. End result is all players on the field are the same grade in school.

GY is any player a certain grade in school can play on the team. This allows 36 month older 2x held back "Sophmores" as an example.

The big difference is SY with Aug birthdays playing on their correct grade in school team is the most fair for the most players and it works well with p2p club processes.

I'm not pushing for anyone 36 months older to play with younger ones. But why are you pushing August kids to play up with grade but not allowing 36 month older kids to play with kids in their grade. Yes I realize there is a difference between 13 and 36 months, but who are you to decide which duration is appropriate vs too long? You are making a huge deal about grade alignment but you are not 100% consistent in age window.

You've been trying to start a GY showcase rumor for over a year. All based on your misinterpretation of US Soccers announcement that SY will allow more players in the same grade to play on the same teams. You are so determined to play 36 month older players against youger players that you concocted nonsense in your head about leagues allowing players to play down. To reinforce the nonsense you made up in your head you fight against Aug birthdays playing on their correct grade in school team. This would allow all players to be the same grade at games. Which is what college coaches want. Which you dont want because it eliminates the need to play 36 month older players down.

Aug birthdays playing on their correct grade in school team avoids 8th grade teams with Freshman that play HS soccer during the season. Which makes things much easier for clubs.

Being corectly aligned by playing on the correct grade in school team makes recruiting much easier for players. Which boosts college commitment numbers for clubs and players.

Some players have crap HS soccer programs and prefer to keep playing with club whenever possible, so they're good on playing with 8th graders, if they can under the rules.

Also, if correct alignment is essential for college recruitment, might as well as go to complete GY to appease all those coaches.

U18/U19 was created so holdbacks could play on their grade in school team Senior year.

Not sure your point since recruiting is largely done at that point.

And there it is. You want to play 36 month older players against younger player so they can get recruited. Nobody is stopping holdbacks from playing on teams with players their age. Totally possible to get recruited

How you accuse this person of being for a 36 month window is insane, "Not sure your point since recruiting is largely done at that point."

Sure I'll explain 36 month older. No problem.

Schools generally allow students to be held back twice. If the school cutoff was Aug 1st the means the oldest were born Aug 1st and youngest in that grade were born on July 31st.

Hold back an Aug 1st birthday twice in school and they are now 36 months older than the youngest possible July 31st birthday in that grade.

Learn math it can help you.

But you claim RaE is a mYth!

I do think its a myth but 3 yeara older than other players is ridiculious

Geez, what happens when they join that college team and have to practice with seniors and grad transfers? It'll be OK, coaches evaluate based on talent/pontential.

Ideally college is free or significantly paid for via a scholorship.

When parents are paying p2p clubs for soccer they dont want older kids playjng down on their kids team.

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Anonymous wrote:its sad that Mr Usys isnt getting the hint that people don't want him around

I think you got that backwards my friend.

When I’m proven right which I will be just remember this scene from Batman.


"I never said thank you," to which Batman replies from the rooftop edge, "And you'll never have to".

So age guy is Mr USYS

Now we know why he's pushing for 36 month older players to play down.

Playing down is the only way C team players can compete against correct age/grade players.

Word of advice. Instead of trying to cut corners maybe USYS should focus on making clubs and teams better.

it's funny how people were having a conversation without grade and you had to non sequitur in your grade goal. grade never part of nwe sy.

You mean your conversation with yourself?

Sorry grade exists and when its applied to your 36 month older player playing down nonsese people quickly see why it doesnt make sense.

find a post where somebody wants more than 12 month age group other than you. you've failed this challenge over and over. makes u a hypocrite.

Age guy / mr usys has been trying to start a rumor that leagues will start doing GY showcases for almost a year.

High schools allow students to be held back two times. This means 36 month older players (2 years older ie held back twice) in GY.

I'm confused. But aren't you the one pushing for grade alignment?

SY with August birthdays playing on the team thats their grade in school. Which is all 100% allowed under SY League rules. The oldest any player can be is born on 8/1 per year / level. End result is all players on the field are the same grade in school.

GY is any player a certain grade in school can play on the team. This allows 36 month older 2x held back "Sophmores" as an example.

The big difference is SY with Aug birthdays playing on their correct grade in school team is the most fair for the most players and it works well with p2p club processes.

I'm not pushing for anyone 36 months older to play with younger ones. But why are you pushing August kids to play up with grade but not allowing 36 month older kids to play with kids in their grade. Yes I realize there is a difference between 13 and 36 months, but who are you to decide which duration is appropriate vs too long? You are making a huge deal about grade alignment but you are not 100% consistent in age window.

You've been trying to start a GY showcase rumor for over a year. All based on your misinterpretation of US Soccers announcement that SY will allow more players in the same grade to play on the same teams. You are so determined to play 36 month older players against youger players that you concocted nonsense in your head about leagues allowing players to play down. To reinforce the nonsense you made up in your head you fight against Aug birthdays playing on their correct grade in school team. This would allow all players to be the same grade at games. Which is what college coaches want. Which you dont want because it eliminates the need to play 36 month older players down.

Aug birthdays playing on their correct grade in school team avoids 8th grade teams with Freshman that play HS soccer during the season. Which makes things much easier for clubs.

Being corectly aligned by playing on the correct grade in school team makes recruiting much easier for players. Which boosts college commitment numbers for clubs and players.

Some players have crap HS soccer programs and prefer to keep playing with club whenever possible, so they're good on playing with 8th graders, if they can under the rules.

Also, if correct alignment is essential for college recruitment, might as well as go to complete GY to appease all those coaches.

U18/U19 was created so holdbacks could play on their grade in school team Senior year.

Not sure your point since recruiting is largely done at that point.

And there it is. You want to play 36 month older players against younger player so they can get recruited. Nobody is stopping holdbacks from playing on teams with players their age. Totally possible to get recruited

How you accuse this person of being for a 36 month window is insane, "Not sure your point since recruiting is largely done at that point."

Sure I'll explain 36 month older. No problem.

Schools generally allow students to be held back twice. If the school cutoff was Aug 1st the means the oldest were born Aug 1st and youngest in that grade were born on July 31st.

Hold back an Aug 1st birthday twice in school and they are now 36 months older than the youngest possible July 31st birthday in that grade.

Learn math it can help you.

But you claim RaE is a mYth!

I do think its a myth but 3 yeara older than other players is ridiculious

Geez, what happens when they join that college team and have to practice with seniors and grad transfers? It'll be OK, coaches evaluate based on talent/pontential.

Ideally college is free or significantly paid for via a scholorship.

When parents are paying p2p clubs for soccer they dont want older kids playjng down on their kids team.

When they join that college team and have to practice with seniors and grad transfers, it will be tough cookies. It'll be OK because coaches evaluate based on talent/potential.

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I know of players -- top in their state, in everything -- went to a Big Ten school and sat their entire college careers. Got to practice, sub a little, degrees, tho.

I know another kid -- had college talent -- but wasn't good enough for their school of choice. Went to their school of choice and tried playing for the university club team.

Every kid has their own journey and it doesn't always end like parents think/want.

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Anonymous wrote:its sad that Mr Usys isnt getting the hint that people don't want him around

I think you got that backwards my friend.

When I’m proven right which I will be just remember this scene from Batman.


"I never said thank you," to which Batman replies from the rooftop edge, "And you'll never have to".

So age guy is Mr USYS

Now we know why he's pushing for 36 month older players to play down.

Playing down is the only way C team players can compete against correct age/grade players.

Word of advice. Instead of trying to cut corners maybe USYS should focus on making clubs and teams better.

it's funny how people were having a conversation without grade and you had to non sequitur in your grade goal. grade never part of nwe sy.

You mean your conversation with yourself?

Sorry grade exists and when its applied to your 36 month older player playing down nonsese people quickly see why it doesnt make sense.

find a post where somebody wants more than 12 month age group other than you. you've failed this challenge over and over. makes u a hypocrite.

Age guy / mr usys has been trying to start a rumor that leagues will start doing GY showcases for almost a year.

High schools allow students to be held back two times. This means 36 month older players (2 years older ie held back twice) in GY.

I'm confused. But aren't you the one pushing for grade alignment?

SY with August birthdays playing on the team thats their grade in school. Which is all 100% allowed under SY League rules. The oldest any player can be is born on 8/1 per year / level. End result is all players on the field are the same grade in school.

GY is any player a certain grade in school can play on the team. This allows 36 month older 2x held back "Sophmores" as an example.

The big difference is SY with Aug birthdays playing on their correct grade in school team is the most fair for the most players and it works well with p2p club processes.

I'm not pushing for anyone 36 months older to play with younger ones. But why are you pushing August kids to play up with grade but not allowing 36 month older kids to play with kids in their grade. Yes I realize there is a difference between 13 and 36 months, but who are you to decide which duration is appropriate vs too long? You are making a huge deal about grade alignment but you are not 100% consistent in age window.

You've been trying to start a GY showcase rumor for over a year. All based on your misinterpretation of US Soccers announcement that SY will allow more players in the same grade to play on the same teams. You are so determined to play 36 month older players against youger players that you concocted nonsense in your head about leagues allowing players to play down. To reinforce the nonsense you made up in your head you fight against Aug birthdays playing on their correct grade in school team. This would allow all players to be the same grade at games. Which is what college coaches want. Which you dont want because it eliminates the need to play 36 month older players down.

Aug birthdays playing on their correct grade in school team avoids 8th grade teams with Freshman that play HS soccer during the season. Which makes things much easier for clubs.

Being corectly aligned by playing on the correct grade in school team makes recruiting much easier for players. Which boosts college commitment numbers for clubs and players.

Some players have crap HS soccer programs and prefer to keep playing with club whenever possible, so they're good on playing with 8th graders, if they can under the rules.

Also, if correct alignment is essential for college recruitment, might as well as go to complete GY to appease all those coaches.

U18/U19 was created so holdbacks could play on their grade in school team Senior year.

Not sure your point since recruiting is largely done at that point.

And there it is. You want to play 36 month older players against younger player so they can get recruited. Nobody is stopping holdbacks from playing on teams with players their age. Totally possible to get recruited

How you accuse this person of being for a 36 month window is insane, "Not sure your point since recruiting is largely done at that point."

Sure I'll explain 36 month older. No problem.

Schools generally allow students to be held back twice. If the school cutoff was Aug 1st the means the oldest were born Aug 1st and youngest in that grade were born on July 31st.

Hold back an Aug 1st birthday twice in school and they are now 36 months older than the youngest possible July 31st birthday in that grade.

Learn math it can help you.

But you claim RaE is a mYth!

I do think its a myth but 3 yeara older than other players is ridiculious

Geez, what happens when they join that college team and have to practice with seniors and grad transfers? It'll be OK, coaches evaluate based on talent/pontential.

Ideally college is free or significantly paid for via a scholorship.

When parents are paying p2p clubs for soccer they dont want older kids playjng down on their kids team.

Those parents are living a myth if they think free college/scholarships are plentiful. If they are worried about a kid the basically same age playing on their team, they have even more work cut out for them.

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Anonymous wrote:its sad that Mr Usys isnt getting the hint that people don't want him around

I think you got that backwards my friend.

When I’m proven right which I will be just remember this scene from Batman.


"I never said thank you," to which Batman replies from the rooftop edge, "And you'll never have to".

So age guy is Mr USYS

Now we know why he's pushing for 36 month older players to play down.

Playing down is the only way C team players can compete against correct age/grade players.

Word of advice. Instead of trying to cut corners maybe USYS should focus on making clubs and teams better.

it's funny how people were having a conversation without grade and you had to non sequitur in your grade goal. grade never part of nwe sy.

You mean your conversation with yourself?

Sorry grade exists and when its applied to your 36 month older player playing down nonsese people quickly see why it doesnt make sense.

find a post where somebody wants more than 12 month age group other than you. you've failed this challenge over and over. makes u a hypocrite.

Age guy / mr usys has been trying to start a rumor that leagues will start doing GY showcases for almost a year.

High schools allow students to be held back two times. This means 36 month older players (2 years older ie held back twice) in GY.

I'm confused. But aren't you the one pushing for grade alignment?

SY with August birthdays playing on the team thats their grade in school. Which is all 100% allowed under SY League rules. The oldest any player can be is born on 8/1 per year / level. End result is all players on the field are the same grade in school.

GY is any player a certain grade in school can play on the team. This allows 36 month older 2x held back "Sophmores" as an example.

The big difference is SY with Aug birthdays playing on their correct grade in school team is the most fair for the most players and it works well with p2p club processes.

I'm not pushing for anyone 36 months older to play with younger ones. But why are you pushing August kids to play up with grade but not allowing 36 month older kids to play with kids in their grade. Yes I realize there is a difference between 13 and 36 months, but who are you to decide which duration is appropriate vs too long? You are making a huge deal about grade alignment but you are not 100% consistent in age window.

You've been trying to start a GY showcase rumor for over a year. All based on your misinterpretation of US Soccers announcement that SY will allow more players in the same grade to play on the same teams. You are so determined to play 36 month older players against youger players that you concocted nonsense in your head about leagues allowing players to play down. To reinforce the nonsense you made up in your head you fight against Aug birthdays playing on their correct grade in school team. This would allow all players to be the same grade at games. Which is what college coaches want. Which you dont want because it eliminates the need to play 36 month older players down.

Aug birthdays playing on their correct grade in school team avoids 8th grade teams with Freshman that play HS soccer during the season. Which makes things much easier for clubs.

Being corectly aligned by playing on the correct grade in school team makes recruiting much easier for players. Which boosts college commitment numbers for clubs and players.

Some players have crap HS soccer programs and prefer to keep playing with club whenever possible, so they're good on playing with 8th graders, if they can under the rules.

Also, if correct alignment is essential for college recruitment, might as well as go to complete GY to appease all those coaches.

U18/U19 was created so holdbacks could play on their grade in school team Senior year.

Not sure your point since recruiting is largely done at that point.

And there it is. You want to play 36 month older players against younger player so they can get recruited. Nobody is stopping holdbacks from playing on teams with players their age. Totally possible to get recruited

How you accuse this person of being for a 36 month window is insane, "Not sure your point since recruiting is largely done at that point."

Sure I'll explain 36 month older. No problem.

Schools generally allow students to be held back twice. If the school cutoff was Aug 1st the means the oldest were born Aug 1st and youngest in that grade were born on July 31st.

Hold back an Aug 1st birthday twice in school and they are now 36 months older than the youngest possible July 31st birthday in that grade.

Learn math it can help you.

But you claim RaE is a mYth!

I do think its a myth but 3 yeara older than other players is ridiculious

No, I've seen an amazing chart shared several times on this board. iT definitely proves that our much-touted P2P syatem has made solved for RAE. No reason to worry! THat poster made me see the light.

I dont think anyone can "make you see the light".

You arent very smart, you are incredibly stubborn, and you're arrogant. On top of all that you have an agenda to play older players against younger ones. Which you try to hide but people see through you almost immediately.

Even when you know that you're wrong you'll argue just to argue.

Nobody is actually saying they want biobanding, playing down. It's your trying to force younger to play with older kids that just didn't happen because clubs don't follow the grades of their players and you are lashing out at everyone.