Over/Under of if the DCPS plan happens as planned

[Anonymous]

The logistics, pushback and non-feasibility of it is going to be insane. There's no way this plan comes to pass as is.

What say you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The logistics, pushback and non-feasibility of it is going to be insane. There's no way this plan comes to pass as is.

What say you?

I think it happens but it doesn’t happen by Nov 9. Maybe after Thanksgiving.

[Anonymous]

I do not actually see any issues with implementing the CARE plan. Logistically it means hiring a few hundred individuals with a high school diploma and 24 hours of college credit that can pass some sort of background check. They do not have to have experience working with children. I cannot imagine it is going to be too hard to staff up CARE programs.

I am not sure if they will hit their goals and get enough teachers to handle the in person learning and they did not leave themselves much wiggle room.

There will be some push back for kids that get new teachers and the change in classrooms, but DCPS is pretty good at ignoring pushback.

If you want distance learning, apart from the juggling of the classes and teachers, nothing is really changing and there is no reason that distance learning really needs to stick with traditional classroom and teacher ideas.

If you want childcare, you might be able to get a spot. That is great for the parents that need it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The logistics, pushback and non-feasibility of it is going to be insane. There's no way this plan comes to pass as is.

What say you?

I think it happens but it doesn’t happen by Nov 9. Maybe after Thanksgiving.

The plan is to phase it in. In person starts Nov 9, then pk-1 CARE starts Nov 16, and finally grades 2-5 the week of Nov 30

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do not actually see any issues with implementing the CARE plan. Logistically it means hiring a few hundred individuals with a high school diploma and 24 hours of college credit that can pass some sort of background check. They do not have to have experience working with children. I cannot imagine it is going to be too hard to staff up CARE programs.

I am not sure if they will hit their goals and get enough teachers to handle the in person learning and they did not leave themselves much wiggle room.

There will be some push back for kids that get new teachers and the change in classrooms, but DCPS is pretty good at ignoring pushback.

If you want distance learning, apart from the juggling of the classes and teachers, nothing is really changing and there is no reason that distance learning really needs to stick with traditional classroom and teacher ideas.

If you want childcare, you might be able to get a spot. That is great for the parents that need it.

I disagree, DCPS struggles in hiring people ALL THE TIME. I assume they will go through an agency in order to get enough bodies this quickly. We have seen the caliber of the security guards and all other for-hire personnel. To me, it seems like a HUGE risk. Besides COVID, this babysitting gig in a huge empty school sounds like complete anarchy. You'll have CARES "teachers' on their phone, high, being completely inattentive. This on top of when they start calling sick or simply not showing up. I'd rather give my child an ipad all day in our couch and call it a day than to send her to that mess.

[Anonymous]

I think the 11 students er grade will happen. Then there will be some cares classrooms in every school but no where near enough for %75 of kids to return.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not actually see any issues with implementing the CARE plan. Logistically it means hiring a few hundred individuals with a high school diploma and 24 hours of college credit that can pass some sort of background check. They do not have to have experience working with children. I cannot imagine it is going to be too hard to staff up CARE programs.

I am not sure if they will hit their goals and get enough teachers to handle the in person learning and they did not leave themselves much wiggle room.

There will be some push back for kids that get new teachers and the change in classrooms, but DCPS is pretty good at ignoring pushback.

If you want distance learning, apart from the juggling of the classes and teachers, nothing is really changing and there is no reason that distance learning really needs to stick with traditional classroom and teacher ideas.

If you want childcare, you might be able to get a spot. That is great for the parents that need it.

I disagree, DCPS struggles in hiring people ALL THE TIME. I assume they will go through an agency in order to get enough bodies this quickly. We have seen the caliber of the security guards and all other for-hire personnel. To me, it seems like a HUGE risk. Besides COVID, this babysitting gig in a huge empty school sounds like complete anarchy. You'll have CARES "teachers' on their phone, high, being completely inattentive. This on top of when they start calling sick or simply not showing up. I'd rather give my child an ipad all day in our couch and call it a day than to send her to that mess.

I agree with that. Hopefully they will be attentive enough to stop physical alterations, major disruptions and get the kids out of the building in case of a fire. For those that can keep their kids at home, they probably should, but for those that cannot, even the worst childcare is probably a huge improvement.

[Anonymous]

I agree they will struggle to find competent cares teachers for what they are likely paying. And your child's experience will 100% depend on the quality of the care leader. They may not even have enough cares leaders for one class per grade. BUT there will be 100 students with a live teacher in every school. I hope they do a good job of identifying the neediest. And I hope my child's fabulous teacher isn't one because the only thing worse than a year of DLing is a year of Dling with a poor teacher in a larger classroom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do not actually see any issues with implementing the CARE plan. Logistically it means hiring a few hundred individuals with a high school diploma and 24 hours of college credit that can pass some sort of background check. They do not have to have experience working with children. I cannot imagine it is going to be too hard to staff up CARE programs.

I am not sure if they will hit their goals and get enough teachers to handle the in person learning and they did not leave themselves much wiggle room.

There will be some push back for kids that get new teachers and the change in classrooms, but DCPS is pretty good at ignoring pushback.

If you want distance learning, apart from the juggling of the classes and teachers, nothing is really changing and there is no reason that distance learning really needs to stick with traditional classroom and teacher ideas.

If you want childcare, you might be able to get a spot. That is great for the parents that need it.

I thought they’d use teacher’s aides. Is the plan to really just hire a bunch of random jobseekers?

I have childcare, so I’m only interested in CARES for socialization.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not actually see any issues with implementing the CARE plan. Logistically it means hiring a few hundred individuals with a high school diploma and 24 hours of college credit that can pass some sort of background check. They do not have to have experience working with children. I cannot imagine it is going to be too hard to staff up CARE programs.

I am not sure if they will hit their goals and get enough teachers to handle the in person learning and they did not leave themselves much wiggle room.

There will be some push back for kids that get new teachers and the change in classrooms, but DCPS is pretty good at ignoring pushback.

If you want distance learning, apart from the juggling of the classes and teachers, nothing is really changing and there is no reason that distance learning really needs to stick with traditional classroom and teacher ideas.

If you want childcare, you might be able to get a spot. That is great for the parents that need it.

I thought they’d use teacher’s aides. Is the plan to really just hire a bunch of random jobseekers?

I have childcare, so I’m only interested in CARES for socialization.

This is my assumption as well. Aides and other staff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not actually see any issues with implementing the CARE plan. Logistically it means hiring a few hundred individuals with a high school diploma and 24 hours of college credit that can pass some sort of background check. They do not have to have experience working with children. I cannot imagine it is going to be too hard to staff up CARE programs.

I am not sure if they will hit their goals and get enough teachers to handle the in person learning and they did not leave themselves much wiggle room.

There will be some push back for kids that get new teachers and the change in classrooms, but DCPS is pretty good at ignoring pushback.

If you want distance learning, apart from the juggling of the classes and teachers, nothing is really changing and there is no reason that distance learning really needs to stick with traditional classroom and teacher ideas.

If you want childcare, you might be able to get a spot. That is great for the parents that need it.

I thought they’d use teacher’s aides. Is the plan to really just hire a bunch of random jobseekers?

I have childcare, so I’m only interested in CARES for socialization.

No, they will not use aides. They may use people who applied for an aide position in DCPS but didn't make it...meaning they weren't a great choice.
If they were using aides then there'd be little to worry about. 95% of the aides at my school are excellent, a few are even retired teachers. But whether they'd come in or not...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do not actually see any issues with implementing the CARE plan. Logistically it means hiring a few hundred individuals with a high school diploma and 24 hours of college credit that can pass some sort of background check. They do not have to have experience working with children. I cannot imagine it is going to be too hard to staff up CARE programs.

I am not sure if they will hit their goals and get enough teachers to handle the in person learning and they did not leave themselves much wiggle room.

There will be some push back for kids that get new teachers and the change in classrooms, but DCPS is pretty good at ignoring pushback.

If you want distance learning, apart from the juggling of the classes and teachers, nothing is really changing and there is no reason that distance learning really needs to stick with traditional classroom and teacher ideas.

If you want childcare, you might be able to get a spot. That is great for the parents that need it.

Sure, hiring a couple hundred minimally qualified people to oversee ECE and elementary school children for full days is going to go GREAT

Listen, if we were talking about middle school or high schoolers, maybe the CARES classrooms would work. Assuming you don't have any behavioral issues (which is a massive assumption), then maybe having them in classrooms with substitute teachers all day would be okay. They would get to see their friends, and they have enough experience with school that taking instructions from someone with no experience working with kids their age might not be too bad.

But do you think someone that minimally qualified is going to be able to manage a classroom of 2nd graders all day? Not only that, but also enforce social distancing and mask requirements? No. The CARES classrooms are going to be a disaster, particularly because they will be filled with some of the kids most in need of real school right now -- kids whose parents are working full time but cannot afford childcare. Parents with other options will take them, because why would you entrust your child to a person that unqualified if you had any other choice? So they could sit in a room staring at a screen in between whatever chaos ensues with this unqualified childcare provider.

It's a big nope.

The actual in-person instruction might go okay. But it's so few kids.

Parents are on their own this year. Good luck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not actually see any issues with implementing the CARE plan. Logistically it means hiring a few hundred individuals with a high school diploma and 24 hours of college credit that can pass some sort of background check. They do not have to have experience working with children. I cannot imagine it is going to be too hard to staff up CARE programs.

I am not sure if they will hit their goals and get enough teachers to handle the in person learning and they did not leave themselves much wiggle room.

There will be some push back for kids that get new teachers and the change in classrooms, but DCPS is pretty good at ignoring pushback.

If you want distance learning, apart from the juggling of the classes and teachers, nothing is really changing and there is no reason that distance learning really needs to stick with traditional classroom and teacher ideas.

If you want childcare, you might be able to get a spot. That is great for the parents that need it.

I thought they’d use teacher’s aides. Is the plan to really just hire a bunch of random jobseekers?

I have childcare, so I’m only interested in CARES for socialization.

This is my assumption as well. Aides and other staff.

The requirements are what I wrote above: high school diploma and 24 hours of college credit that can pass some sort of background check. They do not have to have experience working with children. If aides and other staff apply, they would hopefully get the job. The problem is that if they need the numbers, then meth heads that can pass a background check will get a position also.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not actually see any issues with implementing the CARE plan. Logistically it means hiring a few hundred individuals with a high school diploma and 24 hours of college credit that can pass some sort of background check. They do not have to have experience working with children. I cannot imagine it is going to be too hard to staff up CARE programs.

I am not sure if they will hit their goals and get enough teachers to handle the in person learning and they did not leave themselves much wiggle room.

There will be some push back for kids that get new teachers and the change in classrooms, but DCPS is pretty good at ignoring pushback.

If you want distance learning, apart from the juggling of the classes and teachers, nothing is really changing and there is no reason that distance learning really needs to stick with traditional classroom and teacher ideas.

If you want childcare, you might be able to get a spot. That is great for the parents that need it.

I thought they’d use teacher’s aides. Is the plan to really just hire a bunch of random jobseekers?

I have childcare, so I’m only interested in CARES for socialization.

Bingo!

No, they will not use aides. They may use people who applied for an aide position in DCPS but didn't make it...meaning they weren't a great choice.
If they were using aides then there'd be little to worry about. 95% of the aides at my school are excellent, a few are even retired teachers. But whether they'd come in or not...

[Anonymous]

Well most schools won't have enough aides, especially if you are at a title 1 where the PTO can't help pay for a few more.

my school has...10 available aides, don't know how many have leave or existing conditions.