Over/Under of if the DCPS plan happens as planned

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the logistics of the in person classroom are going to be hard. Where does the teacher for that class come from? If a school has 3 K classrooms w/ 20 kids in each and, let's say for the sake of argument, that 2 kids from each classroom are randomly pulled into K learning (was it 6 for K?)... That leaves 3 classes of 18 students. If one of those teachers becomes the in person teacher, what happens to their extra 18 students? Do they make both of the other classrooms 27 kids? That could maybe work, but what about at a school where classes already have 27 kids?

What about a school w/ only one classroom per grade (Ross) or any grade w/ only one class (Brent, Maury, SWS)? Who teaches the half of the class who doesn't get to go to school? And is it really going to be that 11 kids out of 25 Brent 5th graders get randomly selected for real school (where maybe 2-3 of them are prioritized and the other 8-9 are literally just UMC lottery winners) w/ their real teacher and the other 14 get left behind and have no teacher? It all just sounds insane.

All of these things. Exactly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do not actually see any issues with implementing the CARE plan. Logistically it means hiring a few hundred individuals with a high school diploma and 24 hours of college credit that can pass some sort of background check. They do not have to have experience working with children. I cannot imagine it is going to be too hard to staff up CARE programs.

I am not sure if they will hit their goals and get enough teachers to handle the in person learning and they did not leave themselves much wiggle room.

There will be some push back for kids that get new teachers and the change in classrooms, but DCPS is pretty good at ignoring pushback.

If you want distance learning, apart from the juggling of the classes and teachers, nothing is really changing and there is no reason that distance learning really needs to stick with traditional classroom and teacher ideas.

If you want childcare, you might be able to get a spot. That is great for the parents that need it.

DCPS is actually experiencing staffing shortages as we speak for Related Service Providers, Paraprofessionals and sunshine due to Covid

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I do not actually see any issues with implementing the CARE plan. Logistically it means hiring a few hundred individuals with a high school diploma and 24 hours of college credit that can pass some sort of background check. They do not have to have experience working with children. I cannot imagine it is going to be too hard to staff up CARE programs.

I am not sure if they will hit their goals and get enough teachers to handle the in person learning and they did not leave themselves much wiggle room.

There will be some push back for kids that get new teachers and the change in classrooms, but DCPS is pretty good at ignoring pushback.

If you want distance learning, apart from the juggling of the classes and teachers, nothing is really changing and there is no reason that distance learning really needs to stick with traditional classroom and teacher ideas.

If you want childcare, you might be able to get a spot. That is great for the parents that need it.

I thought they’d use teacher’s aides. Is the plan to really just hire a bunch of random jobseekers?

I have childcare, so I’m only interested in CARES for socialization.

This is my assumption as well. Aides and other staff.

The requirements are what I wrote above: high school diploma and 24 hours of college credit that can pass some sort of background check. They do not have to have experience working with children. If aides and other staff apply, they would hopefully get the job. The problem is that if they need the numbers, then meth heads that can pass a background check will get a position also.

Where are you seeing this job posting? I did not hear anything about anyone hiring anyone.

There is definitely NOT a job posting they mentioned today pulling employees from other DC govt agencies and outside community based partnerships

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the logistics of the in person classroom are going to be hard. Where does the teacher for that class come from? If a school has 3 K classrooms w/ 20 kids in each and, let's say for the sake of argument, that 2 kids from each classroom are randomly pulled into K learning (was it 6 for K?)... That leaves 3 classes of 18 students. If one of those teachers becomes the in person teacher, what happens to their extra 18 students? Do they make both of the other classrooms 27 kids? That could maybe work, but what about at a school where classes already have 27 kids?

What about a school w/ only one classroom per grade (Ross) or any grade w/ only one class (Brent, Maury, SWS)? Who teaches the half of the class who doesn't get to go to school? And is it really going to be that 11 kids out of 25 Brent 5th graders get randomly selected for real school (where maybe 2-3 of them are prioritized and the other 8-9 are literally just UMC lottery winners) w/ their real teacher and the other 14 get left behind and have no teacher? It all just sounds insane.

All of these things. Exactly.

There is not a single grade at Maury with only one class. Kinder & 1st have 4 rooms each. 3 2nd grades, and 2 4th & 2 5th.
So zero Maury out for your hysteria example

[Anonymous]

This is going to get a lot of pushback. The huge ward 3 schools are screwed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is going to get a lot of pushback. The huge ward 3 schools are screwed.

Dcps has never cared about ward 3 schools. That’s why they are overcrowded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I think the logistics of the in person classroom are going to be hard. Where does the teacher for that class come from? If a school has 3 K classrooms w/ 20 kids in each and, let's say for the sake of argument, that 2 kids from each classroom are randomly pulled into K learning (was it 6 for K?)... That leaves 3 classes of 18 students. If one of those teachers becomes the in person teacher, what happens to their extra 18 students? Do they make both of the other classrooms 27 kids? That could maybe work, but what about at a school where classes already have 27 kids?

What about a school w/ only one classroom per grade (Ross) or any grade w/ only one class (Brent, Maury, SWS)? Who teaches the half of the class who doesn't get to go to school? And is it really going to be that 11 kids out of 25 Brent 5th graders get randomly selected for real school (where maybe 2-3 of them are prioritized and the other 8-9 are literally just UMC lottery winners) w/ their real teacher and the other 14 get left behind and have no teacher? It all just sounds insane.

All of these things. Exactly.

There is not a single grade at Maury with only one class. Kinder & 1st have 4 rooms each. 3 2nd grades, and 2 4th & 2 5th.
So zero Maury out for your hysteria example

I genuinely thought there was only 1 Maury 5th grade class. Didn’t there used to be? Nevertheless, it was just an example. There are clearly schools with one class in all or some grades. That’s all I meant.

[Anonymous]

Gamed it out for our Title I School. More at-risk kids than in-person slots. So, 11 at-risk kids per grade will get in person (no guarantee it’ll be those who need it most) maybe their teacher, maybe not, and the remaining at risk kids will be left with all the other kids in classes that will suddenly spike in size (45 person first grade, for example) and may have to adjust to a new teacher. Great thinking, DCPS.

[Anonymous]

I don't understand. If you can hire an adult to be in a room full of children doing schoolwork (i.e., CARES), why not just send the kids back to school? If CARES is safe, why wouldn't school be safe?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is going to get a lot of pushback. The huge ward 3 schools are screwed.

Dcps has never cared about ward 3 schools. That’s why they are overcrowded.

Privilege is such a curse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is going to get a lot of pushback. The huge ward 3 schools are screwed.

Our kids likely won't get a cares classroom, but they also won't have more than 27 students in their class. Schools with two classes at grade level will be able to provide cares classes to who ever asks but the non 11 student f2f class will have 37 students in it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is going to get a lot of pushback. The huge ward 3 schools are screwed.

Our kids likely won't get a cares classroom, but they also won't have more than 27 students in their class. Schools with two classes at grade level will be able to provide cares classes to who ever asks but the non 11 student f2f class will have 37 students in it.

Socialemotional health will be good of those cares kids (depending on care teacher) but how will they learn anything in a Virtual classroom of 37.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand. If you can hire an adult to be in a room full of children doing schoolwork (i.e., CARES), why not just send the kids back to school? If CARES is safe, why wouldn't school be safe?

Exactly. Spare me the WTU crap. Get the certified and educated teachers PPE and get the HVAC updated and get the freaking kids back in school. It's not like there wasn't ample time to plan for those things to be done.

[Anonymous]

I wish OP knew what “over/under” actually meant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not personally going to send my children back to school in November, but that's because we won't qualify for the actual classroom with a teacher and we're not desperate for childcare. But I think it seems like a good plan to bring back the children farthest from opportunity ASAP and to provide childcare for other children who need that. That said, I agree with the PPs who think the CARES classroom are likely to be very chaotic. But if parents are desperate, they will hopefully be better than nothing.

Same boat. Child won’t be selected for in-person and I don’t need CARES. my biggest concern is that my child will lose his teacher. We love her and she’s worked very hard to build a cohesive DL classroom that feels like a community.