Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond

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Anonymous wrote:Just want to interject that the SUV Trump was in has the middle set of seats removed. So he couldn't have reached the front in the way she relayed the story.

Do you mean the way Ornato relayed the story?

Look at the white cuffs through the SUV window in the snippet of video they showed. He’s right behind the front seats and is waiving his arms around like a lunatic.

Can you link to the video and point to a time? Because I saw a 4 minute clip of a series of cars waiting, then leaving after the speech, and not only do I not know which one the President was in, I do not see anything through the windows, apart from a few movements, but not anything or anyone recognizable.

Ah, OK, just saw the PP's clip. It looks as though Trump is waving at the crowd. He could be gesticulating in anger, but his cuffs are not far enough towards the front to touch the steering wheel or anyone in the front seats.

Lol. There was no crowd to wave at. They were facing the other way. Try harder.

Sigh. I've posted multiple times over the years at this IP address with lefty posts. I fully support the Jan 6th committee hearings, and any DOJ investigation that can finally mete out justice.

But that video DOES NOT SHOW anything that can be used in a court of law. You will note that the Jan 6th committee DID NOT claim Trump was doing anything untoward in that video. They relied instead on the indirect account of Cassidy Hutchinson. There is a reason for that - if the video had shown anything obvious, they would have used it.

Please. It really hurts our cause when you claim things you can't prove. There is important evidence that has been described by sworn witnesses, and there is likely to be much more. You do not need to make up stuff!!

+1 Absolute fidelity to the truth and being extremely cautious about second hand information that is probably true but can't be 100% proven is so critical to political success. I was a hard core Trump supporter until he lied about his inauguration numbers. Please, it really hurts conservatives when Trump and his supporters make stuff up or even when they shade the truth a bit. I don't mean to alarm anyone, but I'm starting to become uncertain about that hurricane map with the sharpie markings and even the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine.

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Anonymous wrote:Just want to interject that the SUV Trump was in has the middle set of seats removed. So he couldn't have reached the front in the way she relayed the story.

Do you mean the way Ornato relayed the story?

Look at the white cuffs through the SUV window in the snippet of video they showed. He’s right behind the front seats and is waiving his arms around like a lunatic.

Can you link to the video and point to a time? Because I saw a 4 minute clip of a series of cars waiting, then leaving after the speech, and not only do I not know which one the President was in, I do not see anything through the windows, apart from a few movements, but not anything or anyone recognizable.

Ah, OK, just saw the PP's clip. It looks as though Trump is waving at the crowd. He could be gesticulating in anger, but his cuffs are not far enough towards the front to touch the steering wheel or anyone in the front seats.

Lol. There was no crowd to wave at. They were facing the other way. Try harder.

Sigh. I've posted multiple times over the years at this IP address with lefty posts. I fully support the Jan 6th committee hearings, and any DOJ investigation that can finally mete out justice.

But that video DOES NOT SHOW anything that can be used in a court of law. You will note that the Jan 6th committee DID NOT claim Trump was doing anything untoward in that video. They relied instead on the indirect account of Cassidy Hutchinson. There is a reason for that - if the video had shown anything obvious, they would have used it.

Please. It really hurts our cause when you claim things you can't prove. There is important evidence that has been described by sworn witnesses, and there is likely to be much more. You do not need to make up stuff!!

Don’t be so dense. No one said this was proof of assault or anything of the sort. I posted it to refute the constant stream of bullshit that his seat is so far back that his arms would have to be 8 feet long to grab Engel. It shows he’s close to the front seats and waving his arms. “Court of law?” WTF is wrong with you?

PP is troll.

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OMG, like that's SO CLEAR. I mean you can see EVERYTHING!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Just want to interject that the SUV Trump was in has the middle set of seats removed. So he couldn't have reached the front in the way she relayed the story.

Do you mean the way Ornato relayed the story?

Look at the white cuffs through the SUV window in the snippet of video they showed. He’s right behind the front seats and is waiving his arms around like a lunatic.

Can you link to the video and point to a time? Because I saw a 4 minute clip of a series of cars waiting, then leaving after the speech, and not only do I not know which one the President was in, I do not see anything through the windows, apart from a few movements, but not anything or anyone recognizable.

Ah, OK, just saw the PP's clip. It looks as though Trump is waving at the crowd. He could be gesticulating in anger, but his cuffs are not far enough towards the front to touch the steering wheel or anyone in the front seats.

How can you not see it from that really clear video?

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Anonymous wrote:Just want to interject that the SUV Trump was in has the middle set of seats removed. So he couldn't have reached the front in the way she relayed the story.

Do you mean the way Ornato relayed the story?

Look at the white cuffs through the SUV window in the snippet of video they showed. He’s right behind the front seats and is waiving his arms around like a lunatic.

Can you link to the video and point to a time? Because I saw a 4 minute clip of a series of cars waiting, then leaving after the speech, and not only do I not know which one the President was in, I do not see anything through the windows, apart from a few movements, but not anything or anyone recognizable.

Ah, OK, just saw the PP's clip. It looks as though Trump is waving at the crowd. He could be gesticulating in anger, but his cuffs are not far enough towards the front to touch the steering wheel or anyone in the front seats.

Lol. There was no crowd to wave at. They were facing the other way. Try harder.

Sigh. I've posted multiple times over the years at this IP address with lefty posts. I fully support the Jan 6th committee hearings, and any DOJ investigation that can finally mete out justice.

But that video DOES NOT SHOW anything that can be used in a court of law. You will note that the Jan 6th committee DID NOT claim Trump was doing anything untoward in that video. They relied instead on the indirect account of Cassidy Hutchinson. There is a reason for that - if the video had shown anything obvious, they would have used it.

Please. It really hurts our cause when you claim things you can't prove. There is important evidence that has been described by sworn witnesses, and there is likely to be much more. You do not need to make up stuff!!

Don’t be so dense. No one said this was proof of assault or anything of the sort. I posted it to refute the constant stream of bullshit that his seat is so far back that his arms would have to be 8 feet long to grab Engel. It shows he’s close to the front seats and waving his arms. “Court of law?” WTF is wrong with you?

PP you replied to. You can refute it with accuracy, instead of insinuating that this video supports claims that Trump was agitated and lunged in front of him.

And YES, court of law. What do you think is the entire goal of these hearings? What do you think they're trying to push on the DOJ?

OF COURSE WE WANT TRUMP TO END UP IN A COURT OF LAW.

So stay accurate in your dealings, PP. Don't muck up your own side.

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Anonymous wrote:Just want to interject that the SUV Trump was in has the middle set of seats removed. So he couldn't have reached the front in the way she relayed the story.

Do you mean the way Ornato relayed the story?

Look at the white cuffs through the SUV window in the snippet of video they showed. He’s right behind the front seats and is waiving his arms around like a lunatic.

Can you link to the video and point to a time? Because I saw a 4 minute clip of a series of cars waiting, then leaving after the speech, and not only do I not know which one the President was in, I do not see anything through the windows, apart from a few movements, but not anything or anyone recognizable.

Ah, OK, just saw the PP's clip. It looks as though Trump is waving at the crowd. He could be gesticulating in anger, but his cuffs are not far enough towards the front to touch the steering wheel or anyone in the front seats.

Lol. There was no crowd to wave at. They were facing the other way. Try harder.

Sigh. I've posted multiple times over the years at this IP address with lefty posts. I fully support the Jan 6th committee hearings, and any DOJ investigation that can finally mete out justice.

But that video DOES NOT SHOW anything that can be used in a court of law. You will note that the Jan 6th committee DID NOT claim Trump was doing anything untoward in that video. They relied instead on the indirect account of Cassidy Hutchinson. There is a reason for that - if the video had shown anything obvious, they would have used it.

Please. It really hurts our cause when you claim things you can't prove. There is important evidence that has been described by sworn witnesses, and there is likely to be much more. You do not need to make up stuff!!

What are you ranting about? Who said the dumb video could be used in a court of law? Why are people obsessing over nonsense when the bigger news is that at Trump’s instruction Meadows dialed into the “war room,” that he knew the crowd was friendly and wouldn’t hurt him and a dozen other things.

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When is the next hearing scheduled?

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's funny that nobody seems to doubt the story about him hurling a plate of ketchup at the White House walls. Like a toddler.

yeah, that's totally normal

But no WAY did he try to choke out his security guy. THAT'S a bridge too far /s

Do I believe he "tried to choke him out?" Not really. Do I believe he flailed around wildly and possibly tried grabbing at his security guy? Yes, I find that very believable.

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Anonymous wrote:Just want to interject that the SUV Trump was in has the middle set of seats removed. So he couldn't have reached the front in the way she relayed the story.

Do you mean the way Ornato relayed the story?

Look at the white cuffs through the SUV window in the snippet of video they showed. He’s right behind the front seats and is waiving his arms around like a lunatic.

Can you link to the video and point to a time? Because I saw a 4 minute clip of a series of cars waiting, then leaving after the speech, and not only do I not know which one the President was in, I do not see anything through the windows, apart from a few movements, but not anything or anyone recognizable.

Ah, OK, just saw the PP's clip. It looks as though Trump is waving at the crowd. He could be gesticulating in anger, but his cuffs are not far enough towards the front to touch the steering wheel or anyone in the front seats.

How can you not see it from that really clear video?

He's definitely flapping his arms around but the Suburban is leaving the back way. There's no crowd for him to be waving to.

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Anonymous wrote:Just want to interject that the SUV Trump was in has the middle set of seats removed. So he couldn't have reached the front in the way she relayed the story.

Do you mean the way Ornato relayed the story?

Look at the white cuffs through the SUV window in the snippet of video they showed. He’s right behind the front seats and is waiving his arms around like a lunatic.

Can you link to the video and point to a time? Because I saw a 4 minute clip of a series of cars waiting, then leaving after the speech, and not only do I not know which one the President was in, I do not see anything through the windows, apart from a few movements, but not anything or anyone recognizable.

Ah, OK, just saw the PP's clip. It looks as though Trump is waving at the crowd. He could be gesticulating in anger, but his cuffs are not far enough towards the front to touch the steering wheel or anyone in the front seats.

How can you not see it from that really clear video?

He's definitely flapping his arms around but the Suburban is leaving the back way. There's no crowd for him to be waving to.

Nobody claimed this is a video of Trump choking anyone. POs are pretending people said that so they can at least have something to refute. Lame.

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Anonymous wrote:Just want to interject that the SUV Trump was in has the middle set of seats removed. So he couldn't have reached the front in the way she relayed the story.

Do you mean the way Ornato relayed the story?

Look at the white cuffs through the SUV window in the snippet of video they showed. He’s right behind the front seats and is waiving his arms around like a lunatic.

Can you link to the video and point to a time? Because I saw a 4 minute clip of a series of cars waiting, then leaving after the speech, and not only do I not know which one the President was in, I do not see anything through the windows, apart from a few movements, but not anything or anyone recognizable.

Ah, OK, just saw the PP's clip. It looks as though Trump is waving at the crowd. He could be gesticulating in anger, but his cuffs are not far enough towards the front to touch the steering wheel or anyone in the front seats.

How can you not see it from that really clear video?

He's definitely flapping his arms around but the Suburban is leaving the back way. There's no crowd for him to be waving to.

Nobody claimed this is a video of Trump choking anyone. POs are pretending people said that so they can at least have something to refute. Lame.

While not mentioning that Trump directed Meadows to attend the coup planning meeting the night before. Cippoline (“Patsy Bologna”) told him he shouldn’t attend so he called in. That’s the actual story. They know Trump was involved in planning the coup.

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Anonymous wrote:“The federal prosecutors working on the case watched the aide’s appearance before the House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, riot and were just as astonished by her account of former President Donald J. Trump’s increasingly desperate bid to hold on to power as other viewers. The panel did not provide them with videos or transcripts of her taped interviews with committee members beforehand, according to several officials, leaving them feeling blindsided," The Times reported.”

I’m laughing at this right now. Maybe SOME DOJ officials were blindsided. Highly doubt the actual prosecutors on this were. NYT sources are highly suspect.

They are blindsided because they are not actually doing anything. Now they have to scramble because the committee gave proof of witness intimidation. Something DOJ is always saying is a big thing they will prosecute. Basically the committee is shaming DOJ in to doing something. DOJ is a joke. Do not look for DOJ to do anything.

Yes, if the DOJ is too stupid to interview the Chief of Staff’s principal assistant who was in the middle of it all taking notes and answering and routing phone calls to and from her boss and GOP Members of Congress, what kind of investigation are they doing?

You’re both just speculating that DOJ hasn’t interviewed her.

DOJ whined to the New York Times that they didn’t have any clue about much of her testimony. So either they didn’t interview her or they were incompetent at it.

Direct quotes? I don’t find the NYT to be trustworthy. They have shown that they are on the side of the fascists.

Read the headline. They said they were blindsided. In other words, they were clueless.

Well, as none of us is privy to what the Committee is sharing with DOJ, if anything, it is all conjecture on our part. I would imagine that DOJ is doing its job and biding it's time.

Prosecuting a former president has never been done before and it behooves DOJ and the rest of us to get it right the first time because we only get one time.

The Committee will make recommendations at end of hearings to their conclusions. This Committee only has until end of 2022 whereas DOJ has until Jan. 20, 2024. So, there is time. Be patient. I doubt Garland has a sweet spot for Republicans.

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As I guessed early in this thread, Hutchinson’s Trumpy first lawyer was actually being paid by Trump.

Mob.

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Sources tell CNN that Hutchinson was one of the witnesses who was threatened.

Mob.