Is AAP race blind? Are there quotas?

[Anonymous]

Reading the appeals decisions thread about insane wisc scores getting denied makes me wonder if there is more to the story at FCPS AAP this year.

Does anyone know if race is now being taken into consideration?

[Anonymous]

I don't know the answer to your question, but as the parent of a Latino kid at a Level IV center, I can tell you that a lot of the base schools aren't encouraging their brightest URM students to apply if they just missed the cutoff. Yes, AAP centers know that certain races are over-represented by comparison to the makeup of FCPS as a whole and they're probably looking to diversify, but they can't do that unless they put a full time AART in every school, and the base schools desperately want those kids' test scores to boost their numbers. I bet schools in diverse neighborhoods that have full time AARTs and LLIV programs have a pretty good mix of students. The schools that have anemic Level III services and no LLIV are in no way trying to get their URM students to go to the centers. There have been AARTs and other parents on this forum before who have discussed this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't know the answer to your question, but as the parent of a Latino kid at a Level IV center, I can tell you that a lot of the base schools aren't encouraging their brightest URM students to apply if they just missed the cutoff. Yes, AAP centers know that certain races are over-represented by comparison to the makeup of FCPS as a whole and they're probably looking to diversify, but they can't do that unless they put a full time AART in every school, and the base schools desperately want those kids' test scores to boost their numbers. I bet schools in diverse neighborhoods that have full time AARTs and LLIV programs have a pretty good mix of students. The schools that have anemic Level III services and no LLIV are in no way trying to get their URM students to go to the centers. There have been AARTs and other parents on this forum before who have discussed this.

Yup. If I remember correctly, the AAP equity report recommended exactly what you're suggesting: full time AARTs and LLIV programs in every school.

[Anonymous]

In the applicants' folders, the first page has the name and race listed, along with other information.

[Anonymous]

I found this question funny! Nothing in life is “race blind” ...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In the applicants' folders, the first page has the name and race listed, along with other information.

People keep saying this and I have looked through my child’s entire application that was submitted by the school to the committee this year and race isn’t written anywhere. Languages spoken is in there, but not race. Now I’m sure there are other ways to make assumptions re: race (names, language spoken, activities, etc) but it definitely wasn’t on my child’s packet.

[Anonymous]

I have no idea, but when we apply again, Spanish will be a home language (it doesn’t specify spoken well)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the applicants' folders, the first page has the name and race listed, along with other information.

People keep saying this and I have looked through my child’s entire application that was submitted by the school to the committee this year and race isn’t written anywhere. Languages spoken is in there, but not race. Now I’m sure there are other ways to make assumptions re: race (names, language spoken, activities, etc) but it definitely wasn’t on my child’s packet.

Race is tied to kids student ID. Check your FCPS enrollment paperwork. It’s the 2nd or 3rd row of that form.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have no idea, but when we apply again, Spanish will be a home language (it doesn’t specify spoken well)

Me too.... And we are Indian. Lol. N

[Anonymous]

Hindsight! What was that movie in the 80s where the actor checks off a different ethnicity to get into Harvard?! I'm joking ... but reading that other thread, I'm thinking people may be creatively applying the ethnic profile on themselves and their kids.

[Anonymous]

Mindy Kaling’s brother pretended he was black to get into Med School. I also knew a guy who was Indian but was born in Africa so always wrote African as ethnicity. He got diversity scholarships based on that...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't know the answer to your question, but as the parent of a Latino kid at a Level IV center, I can tell you that a lot of the base schools aren't encouraging their brightest URM students to apply if they just missed the cutoff. Yes, AAP centers know that certain races are over-represented by comparison to the makeup of FCPS as a whole and they're probably looking to diversify, but they can't do that unless they put a full time AART in every school, and the base schools desperately want those kids' test scores to boost their numbers. I bet schools in diverse neighborhoods that have full time AARTs and LLIV programs have a pretty good mix of students. The schools that have anemic Level III services and no LLIV are in no way trying to get their URM students to go to the centers. There have been AARTs and other parents on this forum before who have discussed this.

This has been our experience as well. If anything, speaking Spanish decreases your chances of getting into AAP.

[Anonymous]

No. Yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mindy Kaling’s brother pretended he was black to get into Med School. I also knew a guy who was Indian but was born in Africa so always wrote African as ethnicity. He got diversity scholarships based on that...

I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the absurdity, but it's probably best to

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hindsight! What was that movie in the 80s where the actor checks off a different ethnicity to get into Harvard?! I'm joking ... but reading that other thread, I'm thinking people may be creatively applying the ethnic profile on themselves and their kids.

23 and me should give you insight