Subtle signs of class

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Clean and clutter free.

And art on the walls rather than photographs of the couple everywhere (a definite sign of low class).

Clean and clutter free isn’t associated with class from what I’ve seen. Plenty of cluttered upper class homes. The clutter is more likely to be piles of books and dusty silver though.

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Upper class homes are clean but tend to be decorated with a classic, layered look rather than a modern, bare bones aesthetic. Think: antiques, armoires, bookshelves, ottomans, etc.

[Anonymous]

We are extremely Wealthy (note the capital W) and none of this applies. It's quite amusing to read how you all think we live.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are extremely Wealthy (note the capital W) and none of this applies. It's quite amusing to read how you all think we live.

class and money are two different things

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are extremely Wealthy (note the capital W) and none of this applies. It's quite amusing to read how you all think we live.

Being extremely wealthy doesn’t mean you have class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clean and clutter free.

And art on the walls rather than photographs of the couple everywhere (a definite sign of low class).

Clean and clutter free isn’t associated with class from what I’ve seen. Plenty of cluttered upper class homes. The clutter is more likely to be piles of books and dusty silver though.

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Upper class homes are clean but tend to be decorated with a classic, layered look rather than a modern, bare bones aesthetic. Think: antiques, armoires, bookshelves, ottomans, etc.

Disagree. You're just describing the difference between old money and new money homes. You can't argue that a billionaire's mountain modern ski home isn't "classy" with a straight face.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are extremely Wealthy (note the capital W) and none of this applies. It's quite amusing to read how you all think we live.

Being extremely wealthy doesn’t mean you have class.

If you make your own FU money, the little "classists" on this forum don't matter to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clean and clutter free.

And art on the walls rather than photographs of the couple everywhere (a definite sign of low class).

Clean and clutter free isn’t associated with class from what I’ve seen. Plenty of cluttered upper class homes. The clutter is more likely to be piles of books and dusty silver though.

+1

Upper class homes are clean but tend to be decorated with a classic, layered look rather than a modern, bare bones aesthetic. Think: antiques, armoires, bookshelves, ottomans, etc.

This view is about a decade or two old. I have tons of antiques, silver, etc. I’ll say I’m giving all this away - literally. It’s so much effort to sell it. I have a 17th century French armoire in mahogany that I tried to sell for 2 years. Then I debated donating to Salvation Army (because they pick up) and finally I found someone to take it off my hands - college kid with no furniture. We just need to arrange the pick up time. I’ve also gotten rid of all my books where there is a digital version. I kept vintage clothing and family jewelry. Silver is going to my sister; I don’t entertain (often) with my lifestyle. I will also keep some furniture- chesterfields, ottomans, a table, a hand crafted chess table from India. I’m slimming all this material crap down drastically. It just doesn’t have the same value or allure it did in the past. It also weighs us down because we keep 3 homes and travel. I want next to nothing at each place - less to worry about.

I maintain that class is about how one treats others, their manners, mannerisms, and upbringing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clean and clutter free.

And art on the walls rather than photographs of the couple everywhere (a definite sign of low class).

Clean and clutter free isn’t associated with class from what I’ve seen. Plenty of cluttered upper class homes. The clutter is more likely to be piles of books and dusty silver though.

+1

Upper class homes are clean but tend to be decorated with a classic, layered look rather than a modern, bare bones aesthetic. Think: antiques, armoires, bookshelves, ottomans, etc.

Disagree. You're just describing the difference between old money and new money homes. You can't argue that a billionaire's mountain modern ski home isn't "classy" with a straight face.

Not even. My father was the first in his family to shun the upkeep of family homes and land that was held for 300 years. He sold it, invested the money, and lives a nice comfortable suburban life in the Midwest. His kids all stayed in the city. We have modern-ish things, but don’t feel the pressure to be bogged down with appearances of old money. Not everyone will fit neatly into your box. Oh, and here’s another one that will blow your mind - old money and new money mix a lot more often than you think - especially amongst the intelligentsia. Most people with real money aren’t that concerned about why others think. New money are confident in their trade or ability to make money. Old money have always had status - and therefore confidence. Confidence attracts confidence!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clean and clutter free.

And art on the walls rather than photographs of the couple everywhere (a definite sign of low class).

Clean and clutter free isn’t associated with class from what I’ve seen. Plenty of cluttered upper class homes. The clutter is more likely to be piles of books and dusty silver though.

+1

Upper class homes are clean but tend to be decorated with a classic, layered look rather than a modern, bare bones aesthetic. Think: antiques, armoires, bookshelves, ottomans, etc.

Disagree. You're just describing the difference between old money and new money homes. You can't argue that a billionaire's mountain modern ski home isn't "classy" with a straight face.

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Even European royalty (very old money) visits their new money friends’ homes in Aspen or yachts. Epstein was friends with all of them and he was new money - for example.

[Anonymous]

I think it's so strange that most of this thread is about wealth, and not class.

I grew up poor, but my mother and grandmother always admonished me to behave with class - treat people well, make them feel comfortable in our home, be understated and not loud.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clean and clutter free.

And art on the walls rather than photographs of the couple everywhere (a definite sign of low class).

Clean and clutter free isn’t associated with class from what I’ve seen. Plenty of cluttered upper class homes. The clutter is more likely to be piles of books and dusty silver though.

+1

Upper class homes are clean but tend to be decorated with a classic, layered look rather than a modern, bare bones aesthetic. Think: antiques, armoires, bookshelves, ottomans, etc.

This view is about a decade or two old. I have tons of antiques, silver, etc. I’ll say I’m giving all this away - literally. It’s so much effort to sell it. I have a 17th century French armoire in mahogany that I tried to sell for 2 years. Then I debated donating to Salvation Army (because they pick up) and finally I found someone to take it off my hands - college kid with no furniture. We just need to arrange the pick up time. I’ve also gotten rid of all my books where there is a digital version. I kept vintage clothing and family jewelry. Silver is going to my sister; I don’t entertain (often) with my lifestyle. I will also keep some furniture- chesterfields, ottomans, a table, a hand crafted chess table from India. I’m slimming all this material crap down drastically. It just doesn’t have the same value or allure it did in the past. It also weighs us down because we keep 3 homes and travel. I want next to nothing at each place - less to worry about.

I maintain that class is about how one treats others, their manners, mannerisms, and upbringing.

This. These things can't be bought, they are bred.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Decor from other countries, not decor from TJ Maxx.

You are confusing class with wealth, but that's so typical of DCUM.

And yet you won’t find members of the UC pushing a dirty shopping cart around TJ Maxx looking at trash. Well… except for my mother—but there is mental illness driving it with her.

Wait are you saying classy people don’t shop at TJ Maxx or rich people don’t? I can personally confirm that some super, generationally rich people I know shop there. If that makes them loss points in the class war so be it but they’re at least being smart with money.

Can confirm. Some of the richest ladies I know love a bargain and finding a needle in the haystack. Goodwill, to a lesser degree. TJ Maxx, yes. Consignment stores in wealthy neighborhoods. The wealthiest ladies can pull this off because their entire look whispers "I'm rich" and no one would think they go it for 1/10th of the retail price.

My extremely rich Aunt in Greenwich loves TJ Maxx. My mom too. They always look so good. They mix bargains in with their regular stuff. But both of them are Talbots outlet, TJ Maxx, Home Goods fanatics.

My siblings and I are wealthy. I have a hard time typing this though. Not a single one of us feels wealthy. You'd never know it from the way any of us shop/dress/look.

Again, wealthy and class are not the same. A classy person could shop at TJ Maxx and still be classy. I don’t care where Kim K shops or how expensive it is, she’s not classy.

Just because your aunt or your sibling is rich does not make them classy. Does not make them gauche either - who knows, we’d have to meet them to know.

DP

The classiest people I know IRL (friends and family with old money who fit the classic East Coast WASP definition) don’t shop in TJ Maxx.

Practically speaking, they don’t shop for sport. They wear understated clothing, etc. (no labels), the same understated (but expensive) jewelry all the time, etc. But everything they wear and put in their homes is classic, high quality, and expensive. Nothing gaudy; everything is just beautiful.

Their homes have hardwood floors, amazing kitchens, and real art. They don’t have plastic hand soap containers. They have antique furniture. Their dishes and utensils are high quality. Their towels and bedding are luxurious. Their toiletries are amazing. They have fresh flowers and their fridge is stocked with healthy organic food.

Their Christmas decor is lovely.

Think: Ralph Lauren but better.

The fact that everything you wrote was about material goods tells me you don’t understand what class is at all.

Geez, I’m going with the traditional sense for the purpose of the thread.

Aren’t we talking about what classy people have in their homes?

What would your preferred response be, pp?

Loving parent(s) who work at a nonprofit or some noble profession, volunteer, and treat everyone with dignity and respect?

FTR, I can check those boxes.

But in the spirit of the thread, I think posters are looking for tangible things rather than intangible qualities.

Signed,

SJW who couldn’t care less about labels and still owns clothes I bought in college because good quality items last forever and are better for the environment than fast fashion junk

PS - I haven’t bought jewelry for myself in 30 years and prefer to wear the same pieces my DH gave me way back when

PPS - Assumptions aren’t typically spot on

Why so touchy?

[Anonymous]

Pinky up when drinking tea is a sign of class.

[Anonymous]

Asking "pardon me, do you have any Grey poupon?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it's so strange that most of this thread is about wealth, and not class.

I grew up poor, but my mother and grandmother always admonished me to behave with class - treat people well, make them feel comfortable in our home, be understated and not loud.

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