Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I heard Mayor Wilson speak last night, and he said part of the agreement was to seriously limit parking (<4k spaces total), and likely zone all streets for quite a distance to be residential only. Not saying I trust the mayor, but as a nearby resident, that is the only thing that could get me on board. No one wants your giant 3-row SUV clogging up traffic and parking.

That's what's being reported

https://www.alxnow.com/2023/12/14/alexandria-mayor-potomac-yard-arena-will-have-minimal-parking-but-metro-station-currently-inadequate/

If that's true, then this whole thing is just postering to get DC to pony up or it's doomed to be a massive white elephant that will bankrupt Alexandria. This arena only works if it can attract Virginians in large enough numbers to offset the loss of Maryland and DC fans, but that's not going to happen if you expect them to take metro. All of the financing numbers are based on taxes from the Arena and new developments paying off the bonds, but if attendance is essentially nothing thanks to a lack of parking, that won't happen and Alexandria will be stuck making up the shortfall

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I heard Mayor Wilson speak last night, and he said part of the agreement was to seriously limit parking (<4k spaces total), and likely zone all streets for quite a distance to be residential only. Not saying I trust the mayor, but as a nearby resident, that is the only thing that could get me on board. No one wants your giant 3-row SUV clogging up traffic and parking.

One news source said the city is committing 50M for an underground garage. And the City barely has any parking staff to patrol, so this will likely cost the city quite a bit of extra money to regulate.

It also hurts local residents who do not have parking stickers for those blocks but want to visit friends, go to dinner in Del Ray, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Suck it DC. You’re losers, your pols are losers, and you are getting everything you deserve for electing all of the idiots you have running the city.


Well deserved. Now just keep all the crime in your borders, please.

LOL if you don't think the crime will bleed to PY after this is built..it's inevitable

We’re Virginia not DC rights to bear arms and we prosecute

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heard Mayor Wilson speak last night, and he said part of the agreement was to seriously limit parking (<4k spaces total), and likely zone all streets for quite a distance to be residential only. Not saying I trust the mayor, but as a nearby resident, that is the only thing that could get me on board. No one wants your giant 3-row SUV clogging up traffic and parking.

One news source said the city is committing 50M for an underground garage. And the City barely has any parking staff to patrol, so this will likely cost the city quite a bit of extra money to regulate.

It also hurts local residents who do not have parking stickers for those blocks but want to visit friends, go to dinner in Del Ray, etc.

WASPS not having ample parking for a dinner party. What a joke!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

lol. never thought I’d see the day but indeed. Nimby power, activate!

What’s more interesting is to see the YIMBYs against this. I would be careful making this a standard YIMBY/NIMBY issue.

But it is kind of amazing to watch the ALX YIMBYs get frazzled when it happens in THEIR backyard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

lol. never thought I’d see the day but indeed. Nimby power, activate!

What’s more interesting is to see the YIMBYs against this. I would be careful making this a standard YIMBY/NIMBY issue.

But it is kind of amazing to watch the ALX YIMBYs get frazzled when it happens in THEIR backyard.

They couldn’t stop Amazon!

[Anonymous]

I live in Fairfax and have partial season tix to the Caps and Wiz and like that I can pay $15 to park ~ a block away and then be home in 35/40 minutes post game. Neither of those things are going to happen in PY so I will give up my tix and maybe go to a couple of games a year, well planned and on a weekend afternoon.

[Anonymous]

Wilson: https://www.alxnow.com/2023/12/14/alexandria-mayor-potomac-yard-arena-will-have-minimal-parking-but-metro-station-currently-inadequate/

“The city’s interest in these early discussions has been in keeping the number of parking spaces on this site at a minimum because we do not want a lot of vehicles accessing this use,” Wilson said. “This is intended to be a transit arena, a transit operation, that’s why we invested in a Metro station.”

Wilson said the new Potomac Yard will have a “significant net reduction” in parking spaces at the site.

“The intent is to ensure that we do not have people beyond a small core accessing this by vehicle,” Wilson said. “We will continue to push to keep parking at a minimum.”

The fact remains is that the roads around PY are already highly saturated. For Wilson to have any support by city residents, he knows that this is a huge issue - probably the most important one. Widening Rt 1 is not an option. The only option is making sure public transit is strong. You gotta metro in, fans. Leave your Yukons at home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish we had a Republican city council and mayor in DC. I mean I wish we kept abortion intact and basically installed bike lanes and all that other urbanist sht, but I wish we had a more tax payer friendly, strict on crime city. But we can’t because there are too many uneducated, angry people who can’t stand having nice things. I miss Fenty and how much he caved to developers. The only reason this city is any good is because developers coming in from like 1999-present and building tons of nice sht like condos. Buuuuuuttttt oooo everyone is angry about that and “displacement”. Complete nonsense. Let the market work how it should. Create a climate friendly to investment. Fix local government dysfunction.

+ a million

stop worrying about peoples feelings..get the city back to where it was in the 2000--2010 era.

Gentrify the crap out of DC.

Arrest and round up all the moronic teens shoplifting and carjacking. They made their bed.

This. Bowser has nothing left to lose now. She could clean up the city and restore what’s left of her reputation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heard Mayor Wilson speak last night, and he said part of the agreement was to seriously limit parking (<4k spaces total), and likely zone all streets for quite a distance to be residential only. Not saying I trust the mayor, but as a nearby resident, that is the only thing that could get me on board. No one wants your giant 3-row SUV clogging up traffic and parking.

One news source said the city is committing 50M for an underground garage. And the City barely has any parking staff to patrol, so this will likely cost the city quite a bit of extra money to regulate.

It also hurts local residents who do not have parking stickers for those blocks but want to visit friends, go to dinner in Del Ray, etc.

WASPS not having ample parking for a dinner party. What a joke!

Love how you skipped over the 50M parking garage and lack of staff to regulate parking. Is that really best you can do? Be smarter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

lol. never thought I’d see the day but indeed. Nimby power, activate!

What’s more interesting is to see the YIMBYs against this. I would be careful making this a standard YIMBY/NIMBY issue.

But it is kind of amazing to watch the ALX YIMBYs get frazzled when it happens in THEIR backyard.

Having a few more neighbors is different than thousands of new people clogging up your streets and parking spaces.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

lol. never thought I’d see the day but indeed. Nimby power, activate!

What’s more interesting is to see the YIMBYs against this. I would be careful making this a standard YIMBY/NIMBY issue.

But it is kind of amazing to watch the ALX YIMBYs get frazzled when it happens in THEIR backyard.

Having a few more neighbors is different than thousands of new people clogging up your streets and parking spaces.

Yes, I get that. It’s amazing how your views change when a proposal impacts your home and neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wilson: https://www.alxnow.com/2023/12/14/alexandria-mayor-potomac-yard-arena-will-have-minimal-parking-but-metro-station-currently-inadequate/

“The city’s interest in these early discussions has been in keeping the number of parking spaces on this site at a minimum because we do not want a lot of vehicles accessing this use,” Wilson said. “This is intended to be a transit arena, a transit operation, that’s why we invested in a Metro station.”

Wilson said the new Potomac Yard will have a “significant net reduction” in parking spaces at the site.

“The intent is to ensure that we do not have people beyond a small core accessing this by vehicle,” Wilson said. “We will continue to push to keep parking at a minimum.”

The fact remains is that the roads around PY are already highly saturated. For Wilson to have any support by city residents, he knows that this is a huge issue - probably the most important one. Widening Rt 1 is not an option. The only option is making sure public transit is strong. You gotta metro in, fans. Leave your Yukons at home.

When the fans choose to just stay home, tax revenue won't be enough to repay bonds and Alexandria will end up having to make up the difference. I don't love driving into games, but at least there are plenty of garages. I'm not driving to a metro garage, and then taking two trains to go to a game in the suburbs. The Wizards are already terrible. This may be the push I need to quit them

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wilson: https://www.alxnow.com/2023/12/14/alexandria-mayor-potomac-yard-arena-will-have-minimal-parking-but-metro-station-currently-inadequate/

“The city’s interest in these early discussions has been in keeping the number of parking spaces on this site at a minimum because we do not want a lot of vehicles accessing this use,” Wilson said. “This is intended to be a transit arena, a transit operation, that’s why we invested in a Metro station.”


The toll should help along with the increase parking fees.
Wilson said the new Potomac Yard will have a “significant net reduction” in parking spaces at the site.

“The intent is to ensure that we do not have people beyond a small core accessing this by vehicle,” Wilson said. “We will continue to push to keep parking at a minimum.”

The fact remains is that the roads around PY are already highly saturated. For Wilson to have any support by city residents, he knows that this is a huge issue - probably the most important one. Widening Rt 1 is not an option. The only option is making sure public transit is strong. You gotta metro in, fans. Leave your Yukons at home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heard Mayor Wilson speak last night, and he said part of the agreement was to seriously limit parking (<4k spaces total), and likely zone all streets for quite a distance to be residential only. Not saying I trust the mayor, but as a nearby resident, that is the only thing that could get me on board. No one wants your giant 3-row SUV clogging up traffic and parking.

One news source said the city is committing 50M for an underground garage. And the City barely has any parking staff to patrol, so this will likely cost the city quite a bit of extra money to regulate.

It also hurts local residents who do not have parking stickers for those blocks but want to visit friends, go to dinner in Del Ray, etc.

WASPS not having ample parking for a dinner party. What a joke!

Love how you skipped over the 50M parking garage and lack of staff to regulate parking. Is that really best you can do? Be smarter.

“Smarter” you don’t need staff to regulate parking. Arlington is proof, case and point.