Teachers Resigning Like Crazy?

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How is this not a mission to destroy our schools?

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You teachers are sick if you're “not allowed” to use a toilet when you need to.

Not only are your administrators and school board doing nothing about this serious issue, but what about your good-for-nothing teachers’ union? What are they doing about this?

Buck up and demand some minimal human rights like going pee in a bathroom. Having to wear depends to pee is the most asinine thing I’ve heard.

Simple Solution:
You text the front office to have someone come sit with your students (asap) for a few minutes. What’s the big deal?

Spoken like someone who has no clue.

The main office staff isn’t sitting around twiddling thumbs. Everyone is busy. All the time. There aren’t enough adults in a school, and that’s a problem that will only get worse as teachers continue to quit.

Just had a sub at school tell a couple of us she could not do it every day-said she only take a couple of jobs a week because she needs a break on the other days. It's not good in schools.

It is so, so easy to look into the teaching world and find solutions. It’s a lot harder to actually be IN it. A teacher is responsible for far too much at every given moment of the day. We really are expected to do it all… all the time. And many of us do.

Many of us are also sick of it. I long for my old office job in college. I could eat when I wanted, pee when I wanted, sit alone if I wanted privacy, and I could actually get work done at work.

Hahahahhaha text the main office. Good lord, these people really do think they have all the answers don’t they?

DCUM parents offering up all these BS “solutions” and opinions should have to come sub for a week, not that they’d make it past day 1.

+1,000

Agree. I'm a sub and barely made it one week. Hats off to teachers who are able to keep their sanity AND actually teach.

Just had a sub tell some of us at school she's not sure how we survive a whole week. Said she spreads jobs out because it feels like too much to do a whole week in a school. Thats where we are in education...it's too much for most people. Teachers are leaving.

Then leave. I'm serious. Not because we want qualified teachers to leave but, damn, all your complaining. And tbh, the only ones suffering from all your little protest actions are the kids. I'd rather know you're not there, and then I can properly fill those gaps in learning, rather than assume you're doing it.

When ALL the teachers are complaining, perhaps it’s time to start listening. Conditions are terrible. Hours are worse. The teachers who care about students are complaining because we know we can’t properly serve the students when we are burned-out and disrespected.

It sure is easier to say “just leave” than to actually see what can be done. What do I want? More planning time at work. Then I can get my life back AND I can be more rested / able to handle classroom discipline issues.

The thing is everyone complains about their jobs and being overworked and under supported. Teachers, doctors, retail, low skill, high skill, medium skill, all have it so hard.

Agree. Lots of professions are overworked, overwhelmed, burned out, miserable, tell their kids never to go into X. Everything is broken.

So how do we fix it?

I tell my kids not to ever go into teaching....how sad to say that.

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I asked my kid if they'd like to go into teaching (they're a senior in HS) and the response was, "No way in hell." How sad. I used to think it would be so rewarding to be a teacher. There is no reward in it anymore.

Your child is wise.

[Anonymous]

Are their fewer teachers in pipeline?

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/09/27/a-dwindling-number-of-new-u-s-college-graduates-have-a-degree-in-education/

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You teachers are sick if you're “not allowed” to use a toilet when you need to.

Not only are your administrators and school board doing nothing about this serious issue, but what about your good-for-nothing teachers’ union? What are they doing about this?

Buck up and demand some minimal human rights like going pee in a bathroom. Having to wear depends to pee is the most asinine thing I’ve heard.

Simple Solution:
You text the front office to have someone come sit with your students (asap) for a few minutes. What’s the big deal?

Spoken like someone who has no clue.

The main office staff isn’t sitting around twiddling thumbs. Everyone is busy. All the time. There aren’t enough adults in a school, and that’s a problem that will only get worse as teachers continue to quit.

Just had a sub at school tell a couple of us she could not do it every day-said she only take a couple of jobs a week because she needs a break on the other days. It's not good in schools.

It is so, so easy to look into the teaching world and find solutions. It’s a lot harder to actually be IN it. A teacher is responsible for far too much at every given moment of the day. We really are expected to do it all… all the time. And many of us do.

Many of us are also sick of it. I long for my old office job in college. I could eat when I wanted, pee when I wanted, sit alone if I wanted privacy, and I could actually get work done at work.

Hahahahhaha text the main office. Good lord, these people really do think they have all the answers don’t they?

DCUM parents offering up all these BS “solutions” and opinions should have to come sub for a week, not that they’d make it past day 1.

+1,000

Agree. I'm a sub and barely made it one week. Hats off to teachers who are able to keep their sanity AND actually teach.

Just had a sub tell some of us at school she's not sure how we survive a whole week. Said she spreads jobs out because it feels like too much to do a whole week in a school. Thats where we are in education...it's too much for most people. Teachers are leaving.

DP. I'm a sub and feel exactly the same way. I honesty don't know how teachers do it. I think the very worst of it is that there is no discipline for kids who are behavioral issues. Admin will do *nothing* to help. All they do is bray about the "responsive classroom" BS.

I’m a teacher and last week a kid said “school is draining, how do you stand it.” LMAO.

Real life is going to bite that kid in the behind.

DP. Nope. School is much worse than when we were there, and much worse than Real Life. It shouldn't be, but it is.

School has become a circus thanks to parents and their out of control children. I know many who are leaving-none of it is worth the stress

I don't think this is totally it. It's EVERYBODY pointing to teachers to solve all the problems in the education system and even the country.

No, teachers have been rendered powerless, thanks to school boards and administrators. Let’s be honest here.

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Absolutely impotent, through no fault of their own.

Really? No fault? Most of these changing requirements are a reaction to the faults of a significant minority of biased and unethical teachers. This generation of parents are less likely to believe teachers over their own child based on their own experiences with teachers in childhood. The public has now decided that teachers have too much power to discipline and exclude children so they have stripped that power away. Unfortunately that means that good teachers are left without any tools to discourage misbehavior and few incentives to encourage it. I can’t even blame most of the kids for acting out because that is human nature. They are pushing limits only to discover that there are none.

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No college student wants a teaching degree. It’d be a ticket to daily chaos and assaults. Who wants that?

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You teachers are sick if you're “not allowed” to use a toilet when you need to.

Not only are your administrators and school board doing nothing about this serious issue, but what about your good-for-nothing teachers’ union? What are they doing about this?

Buck up and demand some minimal human rights like going pee in a bathroom. Having to wear depends to pee is the most asinine thing I’ve heard.

Simple Solution:
You text the front office to have someone come sit with your students (asap) for a few minutes. What’s the big deal?

Spoken like someone who has no clue.

The main office staff isn’t sitting around twiddling thumbs. Everyone is busy. All the time. There aren’t enough adults in a school, and that’s a problem that will only get worse as teachers continue to quit.

Just had a sub at school tell a couple of us she could not do it every day-said she only take a couple of jobs a week because she needs a break on the other days. It's not good in schools.

It is so, so easy to look into the teaching world and find solutions. It’s a lot harder to actually be IN it. A teacher is responsible for far too much at every given moment of the day. We really are expected to do it all… all the time. And many of us do.

Many of us are also sick of it. I long for my old office job in college. I could eat when I wanted, pee when I wanted, sit alone if I wanted privacy, and I could actually get work done at work.

Hahahahhaha text the main office. Good lord, these people really do think they have all the answers don’t they?

DCUM parents offering up all these BS “solutions” and opinions should have to come sub for a week, not that they’d make it past day 1.

+1,000

Agree. I'm a sub and barely made it one week. Hats off to teachers who are able to keep their sanity AND actually teach.

Just had a sub tell some of us at school she's not sure how we survive a whole week. Said she spreads jobs out because it feels like too much to do a whole week in a school. Thats where we are in education...it's too much for most people. Teachers are leaving.

DP. I'm a sub and feel exactly the same way. I honesty don't know how teachers do it. I think the very worst of it is that there is no discipline for kids who are behavioral issues. Admin will do *nothing* to help. All they do is bray about the "responsive classroom" BS.

I’m a teacher and last week a kid said “school is draining, how do you stand it.” LMAO.

Real life is going to bite that kid in the behind.

DP. Nope. School is much worse than when we were there, and much worse than Real Life. It shouldn't be, but it is.

School has become a circus thanks to parents and their out of control children. I know many who are leaving-none of it is worth the stress

I don't think this is totally it. It's EVERYBODY pointing to teachers to solve all the problems in the education system and even the country.

No, teachers have been rendered powerless, thanks to school boards and administrators. Let’s be honest here.

+1
Absolutely impotent, through no fault of their own.

Really? No fault? Most of these changing requirements are a reaction to the faults of a significant minority of biased and unethical teachers. This generation of parents are less likely to believe teachers over their own child based on their own experiences with teachers in childhood. The public has now decided that teachers have too much power to discipline and exclude children so they have stripped that power away. Unfortunately that means that good teachers are left without any tools to discourage misbehavior and few incentives to encourage it. I can’t even blame most of the kids for acting out because that is human nature. They are pushing limits only to discover that there are none.

Can you please reword your point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are their fewer teachers in pipeline?

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/09/27/a-dwindling-number-of-new-u-s-college-graduates-have-a-degree-in-education/

Apparently, our grandchildren will be either homeschooled, or enrolled in private schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are office worker repeatedly babysitting the same disruptive children? Are the parents bribing them, or is this nonsense part of their job?

I should have clarified that this is mostly at the secondary level. Parents of these kids are usually hands off and have been for years. That's part of the problem. The other part is that teachers can write a dozen referrals for the student being out of class for 20 minutes at a stretch and nothing gets done most of the time. Administrators, who are usually hiding in their offices or attending meetings offsite, don't really care if the kids are lounging around in the office because it's easier than actually enforcing any consequences that require paperwork.

If the names of the irresponsible administrators got listed here, I guarantee you, they’d listen-up. As long as you allow them to hide without accountability, they’ll continue to hide.

CALL THEM OUT to STOP their INSANITY.

Follow the money:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/china-funding-controversial-us-school-district-effort-divide-americans-expert-warns

Yes, there is an effort to destroy our schools and divide us. These efforts are funded by the CCP.

Notice who is blowing the whistle here: Chinese Americans.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are office worker repeatedly babysitting the same disruptive children? Are the parents bribing them, or is this nonsense part of their job?

I should have clarified that this is mostly at the secondary level. Parents of these kids are usually hands off and have been for years. That's part of the problem. The other part is that teachers can write a dozen referrals for the student being out of class for 20 minutes at a stretch and nothing gets done most of the time. Administrators, who are usually hiding in their offices or attending meetings offsite, don't really care if the kids are lounging around in the office because it's easier than actually enforcing any consequences that require paperwork.

If the names of the irresponsible administrators got listed here, I guarantee you, they’d listen-up. As long as you allow them to hide without accountability, they’ll continue to hide.

CALL THEM OUT to STOP their INSANITY.

Follow the money:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/china-funding-controversial-us-school-district-effort-divide-americans-expert-warns

Yes, there is an effort to destroy our schools and divide us. These efforts are funded by the CCP.

Notice who is blowing the whistle here: Chinese Americans.

Allowing our schools to collect millions of dollars from a Communist regime is outrageous. No wonder why everything is going to hell in our communities, schools, colleges, families, small businesses, transportation infrastructure, churches and temples, parks and playgrounds. Everything is under attack. Wake up, people.

[Anonymous]

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You teachers are sick if you're “not allowed” to use a toilet when you need to.

Not only are your administrators and school board doing nothing about this serious issue, but what about your good-for-nothing teachers’ union? What are they doing about this?

Buck up and demand some minimal human rights like going pee in a bathroom. Having to wear depends to pee is the most asinine thing I’ve heard.

Simple Solution:
You text the front office to have someone come sit with your students (asap) for a few minutes. What’s the big deal?

Spoken like someone who has no clue.

The main office staff isn’t sitting around twiddling thumbs. Everyone is busy. All the time. There aren’t enough adults in a school, and that’s a problem that will only get worse as teachers continue to quit.

It is so, so easy to look into the teaching world and find solutions. It’s a lot harder to actually be IN it. A teacher is responsible for far too much at every given moment of the day. We really are expected to do it all… all the time. And many of us do.

Many of us are also sick of it. I long for my old office job in college. I could eat when I wanted, pee when I wanted, sit alone if I wanted privacy, and I could actually get work done at work.

Hahahahhaha text the main office. Good lord, these people really do think they have all the answers don’t they?

DCUM parents offering up all these BS “solutions” and opinions should have to come sub for a week, not that they’d make it past day 1.

+1,000

— 1,000 Who would be that stupid under your insane working conditions?

Well it’s so easy and we’re just unqualified whiners, right? It should be a breeze for all the community geniuses out there!

YES-

Then quit your job and get to it! Enjoy your pay cut. Looking toward to your incredible success showing everyone how it’s done. Insert childish laughing emoji here.

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You teachers are sick if you're “not allowed” to use a toilet when you need to.

Not only are your administrators and school board doing nothing about this serious issue, but what about your good-for-nothing teachers’ union? What are they doing about this?

Buck up and demand some minimal human rights like going pee in a bathroom. Having to wear depends to pee is the most asinine thing I’ve heard.

Simple Solution:
You text the front office to have someone come sit with your students (asap) for a few minutes. What’s the big deal?

Spoken like someone who has no clue.

The main office staff isn’t sitting around twiddling thumbs. Everyone is busy. All the time. There aren’t enough adults in a school, and that’s a problem that will only get worse as teachers continue to quit.

Just had a sub at school tell a couple of us she could not do it every day-said she only take a couple of jobs a week because she needs a break on the other days. It's not good in schools.

It is so, so easy to look into the teaching world and find solutions. It’s a lot harder to actually be IN it. A teacher is responsible for far too much at every given moment of the day. We really are expected to do it all… all the time. And many of us do.

Many of us are also sick of it. I long for my old office job in college. I could eat when I wanted, pee when I wanted, sit alone if I wanted privacy, and I could actually get work done at work.

Hahahahhaha text the main office. Good lord, these people really do think they have all the answers don’t they?

DCUM parents offering up all these BS “solutions” and opinions should have to come sub for a week, not that they’d make it past day 1.

+1,000

Agree. I'm a sub and barely made it one week. Hats off to teachers who are able to keep their sanity AND actually teach.

Just had a sub tell some of us at school she's not sure how we survive a whole week. Said she spreads jobs out because it feels like too much to do a whole week in a school. Thats where we are in education...it's too much for most people. Teachers are leaving.

Then leave. I'm serious. Not because we want qualified teachers to leave but, damn, all your complaining. And tbh, the only ones suffering from all your little protest actions are the kids. I'd rather know you're not there, and then I can properly fill those gaps in learning, rather than assume you're doing it.

When ALL the teachers are complaining, perhaps it’s time to start listening. Conditions are terrible. Hours are worse. The teachers who care about students are complaining because we know we can’t properly serve the students when we are burned-out and disrespected.

It sure is easier to say “just leave” than to actually see what can be done. What do I want? More planning time at work. Then I can get my life back AND I can be more rested / able to handle classroom discipline issues.

The thing is everyone complains about their jobs and being overworked and under supported. Teachers, doctors, retail, low skill, high skill, medium skill, all have it so hard.

“The thing is,” this has already been covered. Go back and read the thread again, slower, for comprehension this time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is this happening anywhere else? My DC's ES has has have five teachers resign mid year. Is this normal? What is happening?!

It's better in the long run. They weren't a good fit.

HAHAHAHA. You’re delusional.

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Then leave. I'm serious. Not because we want qualified teachers to leave but, damn, all you’re complaining. And tbh, the only ones suffering from all your little protest actions are the kids. I'd rather know you're not there, and then I can properly fill those gaps in learning, rather than assume you're doing it.

You should be careful what you wish for. I'm a substitute. I have a degree in the field I teach and have a VA teaching certificate, but chances are your kid would probably not end up with a sub like me. Teachers do leave in the middle of the year, all the time. It is usually horrible for the kids, except in the rare case where other teachers take on the responsibility of planning for that class or a really competent substitute steps in. In high school, it's unlikely the substitute will have a background in the class they are teaching. I took over a class once from another substitute that had been sitting there all day watching netflix on his phone, because he said he didn't know the content so what was he expected to do.

How are you going to fill in the gaps? Do you know the content? Maybe your kids are just in elementary, but for high school plan on quitting your job and making it a full time priority or hiring a tutor.

DP. No, they don't, or at least, they didn't pre-pandemic. It was usually quite rare.

We aren’t pre-pandemic. Not by a long shot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are office worker repeatedly babysitting the same disruptive children? Are the parents bribing them, or is this nonsense part of their job?

I should have clarified that this is mostly at the secondary level. Parents of these kids are usually hands off and have been for years. That's part of the problem. The other part is that teachers can write a dozen referrals for the student being out of class for 20 minutes at a stretch and nothing gets done most of the time. Administrators, who are usually hiding in their offices or attending meetings offsite, don't really care if the kids are lounging around in the office because it's easier than actually enforcing any consequences that require paperwork.

If the names of the irresponsible administrators got listed here, I guarantee you, they’d listen-up. As long as you allow them to hide without accountability, they’ll continue to hide.

CALL THEM OUT to STOP their INSANITY.

Oh, please.

[Anonymous]

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You teachers are sick if you're “not allowed” to use a toilet when you need to.

Not only are your administrators and school board doing nothing about this serious issue, but what about your good-for-nothing teachers’ union? What are they doing about this?

Buck up and demand some minimal human rights like going pee in a bathroom. Having to wear depends to pee is the most asinine thing I’ve heard.

Simple Solution:
You text the front office to have someone come sit with your students (asap) for a few minutes. What’s the big deal?

Spoken like someone who has no clue.

The main office staff isn’t sitting around twiddling thumbs. Everyone is busy. All the time. There aren’t enough adults in a school, and that’s a problem that will only get worse as teachers continue to quit.

Just had a sub at school tell a couple of us she could not do it every day-said she only take a couple of jobs a week because she needs a break on the other days. It's not good in schools.

It is so, so easy to look into the teaching world and find solutions. It’s a lot harder to actually be IN it. A teacher is responsible for far too much at every given moment of the day. We really are expected to do it all… all the time. And many of us do.

Many of us are also sick of it. I long for my old office job in college. I could eat when I wanted, pee when I wanted, sit alone if I wanted privacy, and I could actually get work done at work.

Hahahahhaha text the main office. Good lord, these people really do think they have all the answers don’t they?

DCUM parents offering up all these BS “solutions” and opinions should have to come sub for a week, not that they’d make it past day 1.

+1,000

Agree. I'm a sub and barely made it one week. Hats off to teachers who are able to keep their sanity AND actually teach.

Just had a sub tell some of us at school she's not sure how we survive a whole week. Said she spreads jobs out because it feels like too much to do a whole week in a school. Thats where we are in education...it's too much for most people. Teachers are leaving.

DP. I'm a sub and feel exactly the same way. I honesty don't know how teachers do it. I think the very worst of it is that there is no discipline for kids who are behavioral issues. Admin will do *nothing* to help. All they do is bray about the "responsive classroom" BS.

I’m a teacher and last week a kid said “school is draining, how do you stand it.” LMAO.

Real life is going to bite that kid in the behind.

DP. Nope. School is much worse than when we were there, and much worse than Real Life. It shouldn't be, but it is.

This has to be a joke.

Kids get a day off every other week. Can constantly retake or resubmit assignments when they don't like the grade, etc. School is so easy now. I wish I was a student.

Here's someone who isn't listening. Listening to kids, listening to teachers, listening to anything.

No I’m a teacher and they’re right. School is crazy easy for kids. It’s brutal for the adults but the kids do whatever. There was a kid screaming in the bathroom the other day I’M SO F- ING HIGH (and he definitely was, he was roaming the halls rapping after that and clearly perc’d up) and the testing administrator was like “just leave him alone, at least he’s here and can take the SOL.” I saw the principal walk a kid out of the auditorium yesterday and into the office; kid was roaming the halls again 5 minutes later talking to me about nothing at all. They will both end up passing all classes somehow because their teachers will be made to. School is a joke for the kids.