Popsicle every day at camp before lunch

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Anonymous wrote:Elevenses. That's a thing in other countries. People eating something midmorning.

Yes, and there’s already a mid morning snack.

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Anonymous wrote:Tea time= food in between meals.
Gaiter= food in between meals.
Snack=food in between meals.

There's no difference.

Missed the point. What PP was trying to get to above was that the first two are fixed times, or a 1x per day, food in between meal times. And, well, not everyone has tea anymore. The difference with American snacking is that it is more of a continuous grazing. We eat all day, every day. If the kid is not being fed a sugary popsicle (that is pure junk food) it's goldfish, crackers, yogurts, snack bars, or similar. Kids here never have a break to get hungry. We snack ALL DAMN DAY. That's the difference.

I have a neighbor who tells me that her kid doesn't have a big appetite. When he comes for meals, he barely eats anything. She says he just doesn't eat much. However, before lunch and right after lunch, he eats Pringles, goldfish or Rice Krispies. During the afternoon, he eats other chips and salties. I had him for a whole day, she sent a bag of snacks and that's all he ate. Yet she told me that he doesn't like to eat big meals. No, it's because he eats crap all day. Same thing here. Or with all of the country actually.

+1

And I agree with OP - this would bother me too. Breakfast, a 10:30 snack, a popsicle at noon, then lunch? That’s absurd, and definitely counts as constant grazing. My kid wouldn’t eat lunch after that either. The cult of snacks is crazy and unhealthy.

Everyone on this board is always talking about Ellyn Satter, but she talks about how parents control the what, where and when of food, and a popsicle because otherwise you might have to entertain yourself waiting for your parent to pick you up at noon is for sure not what I would choose!

I probably wouldn’t say anything, but it’d bug me for sure.

Totally agree.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Tea time= food in between meals.
Gaiter= food in between meals.
Snack=food in between meals.

There's no difference.

Missed the point. What PP was trying to get to above was that the first two are fixed times, or a 1x per day, food in between meal times. And, well, not everyone has tea anymore. The difference with American snacking is that it is more of a continuous grazing. We eat all day, every day. If the kid is not being fed a sugary popsicle (that is pure junk food) it's goldfish, crackers, yogurts, snack bars, or similar. Kids here never have a break to get hungry. We snack ALL DAMN DAY. That's the difference.

I have a neighbor who tells me that her kid doesn't have a big appetite. When he comes for meals, he barely eats anything. She says he just doesn't eat much. However, before lunch and right after lunch, he eats Pringles, goldfish or Rice Krispies. During the afternoon, he eats other chips and salties. I had him for a whole day, she sent a bag of snacks and that's all he ate. Yet she told me that he doesn't like to eat big meals. No, it's because he eats crap all day. Same thing here. Or with all of the country actually.

The “whole country” eats crap all day, huh?

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Anonymous wrote:Tea time= food in between meals.
Gaiter= food in between meals.
Snack=food in between meals.

There's no difference.

Missed the point. What PP was trying to get to above was that the first two are fixed times, or a 1x per day, food in between meal times. And, well, not everyone has tea anymore. The difference with American snacking is that it is more of a continuous grazing. We eat all day, every day. If the kid is not being fed a sugary popsicle (that is pure junk food) it's goldfish, crackers, yogurts, snack bars, or similar. Kids here never have a break to get hungry. We snack ALL DAMN DAY. That's the difference.

I have a neighbor who tells me that her kid doesn't have a big appetite. When he comes for meals, he barely eats anything. She says he just doesn't eat much. However, before lunch and right after lunch, he eats Pringles, goldfish or Rice Krispies. During the afternoon, he eats other chips and salties. I had him for a whole day, she sent a bag of snacks and that's all he ate. Yet she told me that he doesn't like to eat big meals. No, it's because he eats crap all day. Same thing here. Or with all of the country actually.

OP here. Honestly, where I come from picky eating and kids menu is not a thing. Kids eat the same thing as grown ups and it could be spicy, bitter, whatever. You learn to like different foods. Here it seems like my friends’ kids pick at their (kid-friendly) meals and run off to play, then ask for snacks half an hour later in a really bad mood. That was not the expectation for us growing up. You sit, you eat a full meal, you go off and do our thing. That’s how I raise my kids and everyone is surprised that they sit and eat a meal. I think little kids are completely capable of it if you don’t disrupt their natural hunger.

Just stop OP. You’re kids are not the only ones who sit and eat a healthy meal everyday. You really are coming across as holier then thou.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tea time= food in between meals.
Gaiter= food in between meals.
Snack=food in between meals.

There's no difference.

Missed the point. What PP was trying to get to above was that the first two are fixed times, or a 1x per day, food in between meal times. And, well, not everyone has tea anymore. The difference with American snacking is that it is more of a continuous grazing. We eat all day, every day. If the kid is not being fed a sugary popsicle (that is pure junk food) it's goldfish, crackers, yogurts, snack bars, or similar. Kids here never have a break to get hungry. We snack ALL DAMN DAY. That's the difference.

I have a neighbor who tells me that her kid doesn't have a big appetite. When he comes for meals, he barely eats anything. She says he just doesn't eat much. However, before lunch and right after lunch, he eats Pringles, goldfish or Rice Krispies. During the afternoon, he eats other chips and salties. I had him for a whole day, she sent a bag of snacks and that's all he ate. Yet she told me that he doesn't like to eat big meals. No, it's because he eats crap all day. Same thing here. Or with all of the country actually.

OP here. Honestly, where I come from picky eating and kids menu is not a thing. Kids eat the same thing as grown ups and it could be spicy, bitter, whatever. You learn to like different foods. Here it seems like my friends’ kids pick at their (kid-friendly) meals and run off to play, then ask for snacks half an hour later in a really bad mood. That was not the expectation for us growing up. You sit, you eat a full meal, you go off and do our thing. That’s how I raise my kids and everyone is surprised that they sit and eat a meal. I think little kids are completely capable of it if you don’t disrupt their natural hunger.

Just stop OP. You’re kids are not the only ones who sit and eat a healthy meal everyday. You really are coming across as holier then thou.

Correction “Your” kids

[Anonymous]

How many weeks is camp? This is not a forever thing. It’s a small thing to be tying yourself up over in any way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How many weeks is camp? This is not a forever thing. It’s a small thing to be tying yourself up over in any way.

This. And I'm really not sure where PP gets the "everyone eats constantly" thing.

[Anonymous]

Ugh I hate how much sugar is in those things don’t look at calories look at the sugar. I’m with you OP they’re a treat not an everyday snack.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tea time= food in between meals.
Gaiter= food in between meals.
Snack=food in between meals.

There's no difference.

Missed the point. What PP was trying to get to above was that the first two are fixed times, or a 1x per day, food in between meal times. And, well, not everyone has tea anymore. The difference with American snacking is that it is more of a continuous grazing. We eat all day, every day. If the kid is not being fed a sugary popsicle (that is pure junk food) it's goldfish, crackers, yogurts, snack bars, or similar. Kids here never have a break to get hungry. We snack ALL DAMN DAY. That's the difference.

I have a neighbor who tells me that her kid doesn't have a big appetite. When he comes for meals, he barely eats anything. She says he just doesn't eat much. However, before lunch and right after lunch, he eats Pringles, goldfish or Rice Krispies. During the afternoon, he eats other chips and salties. I had him for a whole day, she sent a bag of snacks and that's all he ate. Yet she told me that he doesn't like to eat big meals. No, it's because he eats crap all day. Same thing here. Or with all of the country actually.

OP here. Honestly, where I come from picky eating and kids menu is not a thing. Kids eat the same thing as grown ups and it could be spicy, bitter, whatever. You learn to like different foods. Here it seems like my friends’ kids pick at their (kid-friendly) meals and run off to play, then ask for snacks half an hour later in a really bad mood. That was not the expectation for us growing up. You sit, you eat a full meal, you go off and do our thing. That’s how I raise my kids and everyone is surprised that they sit and eat a meal. I think little kids are completely capable of it if you don’t disrupt their natural hunger.

Just stop OP. You’re kids are not the only ones who sit and eat a healthy meal everyday. You really are coming across as holier then thou.

I’m in several moms groups online and one of the perennial questions besides what is this rash is what should I cook for dinner so my kid will eat it/ I’m tired of cooking several dinners/ my kid is so picky and I don’t know what to do about their eating.

The answer is apparently do Ellen Satyr which means making sure there is a carb at the table your kid will eat or serve crackers and cheese for dinner or make them forage for their own food when they are old enough. Does that seem like a lot of parents know how to get their kids to eat regular meals or think it’s an important thing to do?

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Anonymous wrote:As someone with an actual eating disorder, this forum makes me sad how messed up their food issues are. People dont get how it can seriously mess up their kids. I may have issues with food, but I work really hard to make sure my kid has a healthy relationship with it.

Gosh… really, there not going to have a healthy relationship with food because they had lunch at lunch time instead of sugar water?

Yes. Freaking out over a popsicle a day is not normal. It's a popsicle.

Was someone freaking out?

Yeah OP. Posting here is a freak out. Have fun with your eating disorder. Try not to eff your kids up too much.

Just because you have an eating disorder doesn’t mean everyone does. My family loves food, just not in an American way. The kids eat everything and help with growing and cooking food. This is not really a habit that seems all that healthy and would never happen abroad, tbh. And since you have an eating disorder you should know that it’s the Westernization of media etc that is responsible for the rise of eating disorders in other countries.

Whatever. "Abroad" is a big world, and I guarantee that kids around the world eat popsicles, or chocolate, or candy, or juice, more often than UMC DCUM posters think is acceptable.

Sure. I just got a popsicle recipe book from another country and the kids are excited about it. We don’t have them at lunch time though because that’s a time for eating lunch. I teach my kids, as most other cultures around the world do, that food is for health and pleasure and we eat a balanced diet of everything in moderation. Snacks are great but filling up on them instead of regular food is not great for your body, especially when you’re growing.

My French teacher told us about her childhood -- when kids got home from school, they ate a chocolate bar stuck in a baguette.

If you think everyone around the world has the same attitude towards food and eating that you do, you're not as cultured and superior as you think.

Omg. I read that book French Kids Eat Everything. The author had this premise that FRENCH KIDS DO NOT SNACK and that's why they aren't picky. However, she also talked repeatedly about the daily "gouter" which is chocolate in warm bread. It's called Le Gouter. She gave it to her kids every day after school. But again, FRENCH KIDS DO NOT SNACK.

So it seems some folks are absolutely delusional.

I agree that book is simpleminded. But I think she means there is a difference between snacking at a given time during the day (like tea time in England) and walking around with containers of goldfish and crackers, squeeze pouches instead of actually eating meals, etc. and then wondering why your kid is chronically constipated and won’t eat any regular food.

Seems to me that the popsicle that so perturbs OP falls squarely into the bolded category.

Except a popsicle is not a snack. It's water and sugar. It's candy. That's the issue. The kid has daily candy time at school - every day - and OP doesn't like the frequency. She's not against an occasional popsicle (or candy) but the continuous popsicle/candy feed. This is not a mini cucumber sandwich.

And, once again, the oh so superior Europeans referred to in France are feeding their kids chocolate inside bread (nothing but sugar and carbs), but apparently that’s OK, because it’s before dinner and not before lunch.

Are they eating it at dinner time?

Yes. Sometimes.

[Anonymous]

I’m with you OP. Having it as an everyday thing is ridiculous, right before lunchtime! Lazy camp staff