Popsicle every day at camp before lunch

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This is amazing. Good luck with parenting.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not OP but I want to teach my kid that "desserts" and sweets are for after lunch. It sets a precedent at home for when whiny kid wants sweets before lunch and then we as moms have to always say no and explain that sweets are for after we eat. "But at camp we did blah blah blah." I wouldn't want to deal with that.

Save your eating disorder for yourself sweetie.

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Pull your child immediately. Basically child abuse.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not OP but I want to teach my kid that "desserts" and sweets are for after lunch. It sets a precedent at home for when whiny kid wants sweets before lunch and then we as moms have to always say no and explain that sweets are for after we eat. "But at camp we did blah blah blah." I wouldn't want to deal with that.

You need to get used to saying that’s the rule at camp and the rule here is this, no arguments. There’s always going to be a “but at camp/Larlo’s house/school we get to do xyz”, and it only gets worse as your kids get older.

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My kid gets a popsicle before pick up too. Except her camp is 9-3, it’s outdoors in the woods. I’m fine with, it’s a part of camp she enjoys because we don’t have them at home. Maybe move lunch half an hour later if he’s really not hungry.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not OP but I want to teach my kid that "desserts" and sweets are for after lunch. It sets a precedent at home for when whiny kid wants sweets before lunch and then we as moms have to always say no and explain that sweets are for after we eat. "But at camp we did blah blah blah." I wouldn't want to deal with that.

You need to get used to saying that’s the rule at camp and the rule here is this, no arguments. There’s always going to be a “but at camp/Larlo’s house/school we get to do xyz”, and it only gets worse as your kids get older.

totally agree.

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This sort of thing throws my kid off of eating real food. I hate this culture of treats all the time, every playdate is treats, every day after school is treats, every everything is popsicles or crackers or candy. I feel you, OP. So many kids are overweight and obese and this does not help anyone's cause getting them hooked on this sugar. My kids have occasionally junk food and I am far from orthorexic, but this crap annoys me because every time my kids want to play at school after it lets out, someone is handing out crap for my kids to eat which ensures they won't eat dinner.

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I would not love it but it wouldn’t bother me enough to post about it. The snacks at my kid’s daycare are not what I’d prefer to feed her in a perfect world (sugary yogurts, American cheese, etc.) but I figure I can’t dictate everything if she’s in group care. And it’s just not that big of a deal longterm.

It also seems really unlikely that a single popsicle is screwing up your kid’s temperament for the whole day.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone with an actual eating disorder, this forum makes me sad how messed up their food issues are. People dont get how it can seriously mess up their kids. I may have issues with food, but I work really hard to make sure my kid has a healthy relationship with it.

Gosh… really, there not going to have a healthy relationship with food because they had lunch at lunch time instead of sugar water?

Yes. Freaking out over a popsicle a day is not normal. It's a popsicle.

Was someone freaking out?

Yeah OP. Posting here is a freak out. Have fun with your eating disorder. Try not to eff your kids up too much.

Just because you have an eating disorder doesn’t mean everyone does. My family loves food, just not in an American way. The kids eat everything and help with growing and cooking food. This is not really a habit that seems all that healthy and would never happen abroad, tbh. And since you have an eating disorder you should know that it’s the Westernization of media etc that is responsible for the rise of eating disorders in other countries.

Whatever. "Abroad" is a big world, and I guarantee that kids around the world eat popsicles, or chocolate, or candy, or juice, more often than UMC DCUM posters think is acceptable.

Sure. I just got a popsicle recipe book from another country and the kids are excited about it. We don’t have them at lunch time though because that’s a time for eating lunch. I teach my kids, as most other cultures around the world do, that food is for health and pleasure and we eat a balanced diet of everything in moderation. Snacks are great but filling up on them instead of regular food is not great for your body, especially when you’re growing.

True, but nobody is really filling up on popsicles.

Op, is the popsicle giving him a stomach ache? They give my son stomach aches.

Otherwise, There's nothing you can do about this other than doing lunch later. Not a big deal.

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I consider myself a pessimistic and rather negative person. And yet, I’m having trouble mustering anything negative about a popsicle for a child at summer camp. YOLO, OP. There are so many other battles to pick.

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It’s not the popsicle. Kids have a tough time switching gears. Ours gets overexcited during favored activities and won’t eat even their faves until they are in meltdown mode. Maybe try to establish a transitional activity. Are the old enough to help make any part of lunch, or put napkins on table?

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Anonymous wrote:As someone with an actual eating disorder, this forum makes me sad how messed up their food issues are. People dont get how it can seriously mess up their kids. I may have issues with food, but I work really hard to make sure my kid has a healthy relationship with it.

Gosh… really, there not going to have a healthy relationship with food because they had lunch at lunch time instead of sugar water?

Yes. Freaking out over a popsicle a day is not normal. It's a popsicle.

Was someone freaking out?

Yeah OP. Posting here is a freak out. Have fun with your eating disorder. Try not to eff your kids up too much.

Just because you have an eating disorder doesn’t mean everyone does. My family loves food, just not in an American way. The kids eat everything and help with growing and cooking food. This is not really a habit that seems all that healthy and would never happen abroad, tbh. And since you have an eating disorder you should know that it’s the Westernization of media etc that is responsible for the rise of eating disorders in other countries.

Whatever. "Abroad" is a big world, and I guarantee that kids around the world eat popsicles, or chocolate, or candy, or juice, more often than UMC DCUM posters think is acceptable.

Sure. I just got a popsicle recipe book from another country and the kids are excited about it. We don’t have them at lunch time though because that’s a time for eating lunch. I teach my kids, as most other cultures around the world do, that food is for health and pleasure and we eat a balanced diet of everything in moderation. Snacks are great but filling up on them instead of regular food is not great for your body, especially when you’re growing.

My French teacher told us about her childhood -- when kids got home from school, they ate a chocolate bar stuck in a baguette.

If you think everyone around the world has the same attitude towards food and eating that you do, you're not as cultured and superior as you think.

Omg. I read that book French Kids Eat Everything. The author had this premise that FRENCH KIDS DO NOT SNACK and that's why they aren't picky. However, she also talked repeatedly about the daily "gouter" which is chocolate in warm bread. It's called Le Gouter. She gave it to her kids every day after school. But again, FRENCH KIDS DO NOT SNACK.

So it seems some folks are absolutely delusional.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not OP but I want to teach my kid that "desserts" and sweets are for after lunch. It sets a precedent at home for when whiny kid wants sweets before lunch and then we as moms have to always say no and explain that sweets are for after we eat. "But at camp we did blah blah blah." I wouldn't want to deal with that.

You need to get used to saying that’s the rule at camp and the rule here is this, no arguments. There’s always going to be a “but at camp/Larlo’s house/school we get to do xyz”, and it only gets worse as your kids get older.

+1. Also your kid wont associate popsicles with pre-lunch snacks. The association will be with the end of the day at camp.

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Oh my goodness folks. Yes if you don’t have a snack every day at 10:30 and 12, right before lunch, you’re going to get an eating disorder. And better if that lunch snack is full of sugar and red dye.

Le goûter is at 4 PM. It’s supposed to tide younger children with blood sugar issues over until dinner. You will not find le goûter served at 12 PM in France because that’s the only way to get kids to line up. There’s a high level of self discipline expected among even young kids there.

My husband and I are from two different countries, both of which have a joyful and open minded view of food. You still have mealtimes because it’s a social thing and eating outside of those is not done in the same way it is here, where sugary drinks and foods with a lot of additives take the place of actual whole foods.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone with an actual eating disorder, this forum makes me sad how messed up their food issues are. People dont get how it can seriously mess up their kids. I may have issues with food, but I work really hard to make sure my kid has a healthy relationship with it.

Gosh… really, there not going to have a healthy relationship with food because they had lunch at lunch time instead of sugar water?

Yes. Freaking out over a popsicle a day is not normal. It's a popsicle.

Was someone freaking out?

Yeah OP. Posting here is a freak out. Have fun with your eating disorder. Try not to eff your kids up too much.

Just because you have an eating disorder doesn’t mean everyone does. My family loves food, just not in an American way. The kids eat everything and help with growing and cooking food. This is not really a habit that seems all that healthy and would never happen abroad, tbh. And since you have an eating disorder you should know that it’s the Westernization of media etc that is responsible for the rise of eating disorders in other countries.

Whatever. "Abroad" is a big world, and I guarantee that kids around the world eat popsicles, or chocolate, or candy, or juice, more often than UMC DCUM posters think is acceptable.

Sure. I just got a popsicle recipe book from another country and the kids are excited about it. We don’t have them at lunch time though because that’s a time for eating lunch. I teach my kids, as most other cultures around the world do, that food is for health and pleasure and we eat a balanced diet of everything in moderation. Snacks are great but filling up on them instead of regular food is not great for your body, especially when you’re growing.

My French teacher told us about her childhood -- when kids got home from school, they ate a chocolate bar stuck in a baguette.

If you think everyone around the world has the same attitude towards food and eating that you do, you're not as cultured and superior as you think.

Omg. I read that book French Kids Eat Everything. The author had this premise that FRENCH KIDS DO NOT SNACK and that's why they aren't picky. However, she also talked repeatedly about the daily "gouter" which is chocolate in warm bread. It's called Le Gouter. She gave it to her kids every day after school. But again, FRENCH KIDS DO NOT SNACK.

So it seems some folks are absolutely delusional.

I agree that book is simpleminded. But I think she means there is a difference between snacking at a given time during the day (like tea time in England) and walking around with containers of goldfish and crackers, squeeze pouches instead of actually eating meals, etc. and then wondering why your kid is chronically constipated and won’t eat any regular food.