Let's keep the outdoor dining, the streets reserved for walking, and the new bike lanes.

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I will help you. The 1% pay 40% of the taxes and the top 10% pay 70% of the taxes. I’m saying the vast majority of the top 10% want to drive to work in their air conditioned car. They’ve worked hard and have earned this luxury. You may know a few HHI people who like to ride their bikes or crowd into a smelly METRO car, but they are the exception. If you make the commutes hellish for those 10%, those folks ain’t coming to work downtown. Restaurants will fail, commercial real estate will fail, small businesses of all types will fail.


Shorter PP: I prefer to drive and believe that society should be structured around this preference.



There's 360,000 cars registered in DC. There's approximately seven 25-year old white guys in DC who are really into bike lanes. Maybe we should do majority rules?


The majority of people in DC don't drive to work, my dude. I believe the number is around 40%.

You're welcome to come up with whatever rules you'd like in your own sofa fortress. It has no bearing on reality here, which is: more and better bike / pedestrian infrastructure.



The Census Bureau said that in 2019 only 34 percent of Washingtonians, and just 13 percent of everyone in the metro area, commuted by public transportation. If anything, those numbers are probably going to fall with so many people souring on the subway system. You can look up the numbers yourself (instead of, you know, making things up).

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2021/acs/acs-48.pdf


You're welcome to lobby your MD and VA pols however you want. Heck, you can lobby my DC pols, but I'm an actual voter here. You presented numbers on the DC region and nothing about people walking, biking, etc. So... get your argument straight?



Forty percent of Washingtonians drive to work, 34 percent take public transportation, 13 percent walk and 4 percent bike.

Of course that's only part of the picture though because a large percentage of people commuting in DC live in Virginia and Maryland, and they are more much likely to drive and take public transportation and much less likely to walk or bike.

So, yes, most people drive.

https://www.bts.gov/sites/bts.dot.gov/files/states2020/District_of_Columbia.pdf





Well ya, most people drive because that is the built environment the lobbyists from the auto manufacturers, home builders and bus companies have sold to Congress for the last 75 years. It doesn't work well because of what we have today, so maybe, just maybe, it is time to try something different.


We get it. You made some bad academic and career choices that have limited your lifestyle options. Please don’t make us all suffer.
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Weird though how hardly anyone even uses the bike lanes. Five years from now, they'll all be torn out because people will think it's dumb to set aside so much space for the four guys in DC who are really into bikes.


You must be a very unhappy person. Only very unhappy people would have a hobby of repeatedly starting anonymous anti-bike-lane posts on an anonymous internet message board. I'm sorry.

I also hope that you don't drive, because a driver who can't see people when they're on bicycles doesn't belong on the road.



Bicyclists in DC are like the NRA -- they're a very small group of people who manipulate our pathetic political system to impose their nutty views on everyone else. Most people in DC would rather have better traffic than bike lanes they will never, ever use.


+1
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Anonymous wrote:Most commuters in DC actually live in Virginia and Maryland. If you look at surveys of how people commute which only focus on DC residents, that is going to greatly overstate the share of people here walking and biking and understate the share driving or using the subway.


Maybe commuters who live in Virginia and Maryland (which includes me) should stop expecting DC to make transportation decisions that prioritize their needs over the needs of DC residents.



I think everyone should prioritize cars because that's the method of transportation most people use. I don't think we should prioritize modes of transportation used by a tiny sliver of the population.


If we removed all the roads I'm pretty sure people wouldn't use cars, either.

Logic, kid. Use it.
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Whatever happened to the DC "Safe Streets" initiative to protect pedestrians on some of the side streets? DDOT announced it to great fanfare but there was no enforcement or follow-through, and now DDOT has abandoned the program. Meanwhile, well-run cities like Seattle are planning to continue and expand a similar program going forward. Bowser also announced that speed limits on DC side streets were being lowered to 20 mph. DDOT replaced a few signs, but then stopped, and cars rip through the residential streets as before. Bowser's whole approach is "platitudes to the people," but there's little substance and even less follow through.
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Anonymous wrote:Agreed, but we must must do something about the ATVs running riot through the city. I feel like my real estate value is in the toilet because of the noise and the danger. The city council is considering making it even more difficult for police to do anything. Call your council member and tell them to vote against this bill! People have already been killed.!


My councilmember is Brianne Nadeau, so

1) She doesn't care what I think, and
2) She automatically wants whatever will make the city least livable for my family.

Any other ideas?
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Anonymous wrote:Agreed, but we must must do something about the ATVs running riot through the city. I feel like my real estate value is in the toilet because of the noise and the danger. The city council is considering making it even more difficult for police to do anything. Call your council member and tell them to vote against this bill! People have already been killed.!


My councilmember is Brianne Nadeau, so

1) She doesn't care what I think, and
2) She automatically wants whatever will make the city least livable for my family.

Any other ideas?


Aren't ATVs diverse?
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Anonymous wrote:Agreed, but we must must do something about the ATVs running riot through the city. I feel like my real estate value is in the toilet because of the noise and the danger. The city council is considering making it even more difficult for police to do anything. Call your council member and tell them to vote against this bill! People have already been killed.!


My councilmember is Brianne Nadeau, so

1) She doesn't care what I think, and
2) She automatically wants whatever will make the city least livable for my family.

Any other ideas?


Aren't ATVs diverse?


That's what I was thinking. It would be logically consistent for her to be pro-ATV.
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Anonymous wrote:Whatever happened to the DC "Safe Streets" initiative to protect pedestrians on some of the side streets? DDOT announced it to great fanfare but there was no enforcement or follow-through, and now DDOT has abandoned the program. Meanwhile, well-run cities like Seattle are planning to continue and expand a similar program going forward. Bowser also announced that speed limits on DC side streets were being lowered to 20 mph. DDOT replaced a few signs, but then stopped, and cars rip through the residential streets as before. Bowser's whole approach is "platitudes to the people," but there's little substance and even less follow through.

It so crazy that the current logic of DC is that cars are evil. But kids buckwildin' on ATVs and Endurobikes are good actually.
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Anonymous wrote:If you're a white guy in his 20s or 30s, you probably like bike lanes.

Everyone else thinks: Ugh, terrible traffic.

White guys in their 20s and 30s think terrible traffic will convince people to get out of cars and join them on bikes.

But everyone else just thinks: I'll go somewhere else, where it doesnt suck to get to.

The losers are businesses downtown because it means there will have a lot fewer customers.

It's good though for businesses elsewhere in the city and the suburbs because they will pick up new customers who are trying to avoid going downtown.


+1. They are for those who don’t have responsibility for transporting people or cargo.
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Anonymous wrote:Whatever happened to the DC "Safe Streets" initiative to protect pedestrians on some of the side streets? DDOT announced it to great fanfare but there was no enforcement or follow-through, and now DDOT has abandoned the program. Meanwhile, well-run cities like Seattle are planning to continue and expand a similar program going forward. Bowser also announced that speed limits on DC side streets were being lowered to 20 mph. DDOT replaced a few signs, but then stopped, and cars rip through the residential streets as before. Bowser's whole approach is "platitudes to the people," but there's little substance and even less follow through.


The issue was that everyone hated “Safe Streets.”
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+1. They are for those who don’t have responsibility for transporting people or cargo.


If only there were ways to transport people and/or cargo by bike. No, wait, there are! Lots of ways! Hooray!
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Anonymous wrote:When it's 90 degrees with 80 percent humidity, there's nothing more I want to do than....go outside and ride a bike? That sounds awful.


All dressed up to go the bars and try to meet someone -- drenched in sweat and stinky with a wet butt from your bike ride.
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Anonymous wrote:When it's 90 degrees with 80 percent humidity, there's nothing more I want to do than....go outside and ride a bike? That sounds awful.


All dressed up to go the bars and try to meet someone -- drenched in sweat and stinky with a wet butt from your bike ride.


With little kids in tow to go out to lunch or to a museum, who are then hot sweaty and crying when you get there an hour and a half later and want to go home, then vomit from heat stroke - - so, already exhausted, you turn around and bike back home with hot, sweaty, screaming kids, and then spontaneously combust halfway there.
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Anonymous wrote:When it's 90 degrees with 80 percent humidity, there's nothing more I want to do than....go outside and ride a bike? That sounds awful.


All dressed up to go the bars and try to meet someone -- drenched in sweat and stinky with a wet butt from your bike ride.


With little kids in tow to go out to lunch or to a museum, who are then hot sweaty and crying when you get there an hour and a half later and want to go home, then vomit from heat stroke - - so, already exhausted, you turn around and bike back home with hot, sweaty, screaming kids, and then spontaneously combust halfway there.


Not the experience of people who actually do these things, but go on with your fiction-writing habits.
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Anonymous wrote:Whatever happened to the DC "Safe Streets" initiative to protect pedestrians on some of the side streets? DDOT announced it to great fanfare but there was no enforcement or follow-through, and now DDOT has abandoned the program. Meanwhile, well-run cities like Seattle are planning to continue and expand a similar program going forward. Bowser also announced that speed limits on DC side streets were being lowered to 20 mph. DDOT replaced a few signs, but then stopped, and cars rip through the residential streets as before. Bowser's whole approach is "platitudes to the people," but there's little substance and even less follow through.

It so crazy that the current logic of DC is that cars are evil. But kids buckwildin' on ATVs and Endurobikes are good actually.


Agreed. Im a liberal but this woker than woke shit is a joke.
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