Universal AP English & History at Wilson next year for 11th grade

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It actually looks like there's research on this...

https://nepc.colorado.edu/newsletter/2013/05/options-tracking

He says tracking is good for the lower-level students and doesn’t harm the higher-level students, which is always the pitch and defies common sense. It has to matter what the ratio of advanced to lower-level students there are. Otherwise, it wouldn’t matter what school you went to and colleges needn’t bother being selective.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It actually looks like there's research on this...

https://nepc.colorado.edu/newsletter/2013/05/options-tracking

He says tracking is good for the lower-level students and doesn’t harm the higher-level students, which is always the pitch and defies common sense. It has to matter what the ratio of advanced to lower-level students there are. Otherwise, it wouldn’t matter what school you went to and colleges needn’t bother being selective.

You're overlooking the main point, which is: mainstream classes for bright kids "won't do them any harm." Neither will drinking water, or chewing gum. In other words, just relax and let the time pass, it will be over soon and you won't regret a thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It actually looks like there's research on this...

https://nepc.colorado.edu/newsletter/2013/05/options-tracking

He says tracking is good for the lower-level students and doesn’t harm the higher-level students, which is always the pitch and defies common sense. It has to matter what the ratio of advanced to lower-level students there are. Otherwise, it wouldn’t matter what school you went to and colleges needn’t bother being selective.

You're overlooking the main point, which is: mainstream classes for bright kids "won't do them any harm." Neither will drinking water, or chewing gum. In other words, just relax and let the time pass, it will be over soon and you won't regret a thing.

Actually, the direct quote is "“When high-quality, enriched curriculum is provided to all students, the effect is to benefit both high-achieving and low-achieving students.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It actually looks like there's research on this...

https://nepc.colorado.edu/newsletter/2013/05/options-tracking

He says tracking is good for the lower-level students and doesn’t harm the higher-level students, which is always the pitch and defies common sense. It has to matter what the ratio of advanced to lower-level students there are. Otherwise, it wouldn’t matter what school you went to and colleges needn’t bother being selective.

You're overlooking the main point, which is: mainstream classes for bright kids "won't do them any harm." Neither will drinking water, or chewing gum. In other words, just relax and let the time pass, it will be over soon and you won't regret a thing.

Actually, the direct quote is "“When high-quality, enriched curriculum is provided to all students, the effect is to benefit both high-achieving and low-achieving students.”

Nope. That is what he says in to the author of that right up, but in the actual report he says, “Won’t do harm.”

Seems like he wants to put a spin on it that he won’t put in the formal report.

[Anonymous]

^^ write up, not right up

[Anonymous]

I did read the actual report. Everyone does better.

https://nepc.colorado.edu/newsletter/2013/05/options-tracking

[Anonymous]

^^^full brief is here:
http://www.greatlakescenter.org/docs/Policy_Briefs/BurrisWelner_Detracking.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It actually looks like there's research on this...

https://nepc.colorado.edu/newsletter/2013/05/options-tracking

He says tracking is good for the lower-level students and doesn’t harm the higher-level students, which is always the pitch and defies common sense. It has to matter what the ratio of advanced to lower-level students there are. Otherwise, it wouldn’t matter what school you went to and colleges needn’t bother being selective.

Lol. I think you're on to something here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Back to the original topic - the school confirmed that this is universal AP for all - ALL JUNIORS will be forced to take AP US History and AP Language next year. No other option. There is some lip service to how they will use differentiation to address the needs of all students, but really, this seems like a very significant change to impose on students right now.

I do not see how you can implement this change without both (a) hindering the experience of those who are truly ready for these classes, and (b) increasing the stress and burden on students who are not. Obviously it will increase the number of students of color in AP classes because they will have no choice. They are forcing the student body to achieve this goal of equal representation in AP classes across all socio economic backgrounds, but they sure are willing to incur alot of innocent casualties along the way.

I didn’t see another email. Can you let us know how they confirmed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Back to the original topic - the school confirmed that this is universal AP for all - ALL JUNIORS will be forced to take AP US History and AP Language next year. No other option. There is some lip service to how they will use differentiation to address the needs of all students, but really, this seems like a very significant change to impose on students right now.

I do not see how you can implement this change without both (a) hindering the experience of those who are truly ready for these classes, and (b) increasing the stress and burden on students who are not. Obviously it will increase the number of students of color in AP classes because they will have no choice. They are forcing the student body to achieve this goal of equal representation in AP classes across all socio economic backgrounds, but they sure are willing to incur alot of innocent casualties along the way.

I didn’t see another email. Can you let us know how they confirmed?

Can somebody please publish the email announcing the further extension of Honors for All? Thanks

[Anonymous]

It is not "honors for all," it is "AP for all." There's a difference. No one's going to remove honors classes for all grades, right? Doing something like that would ignore the fact that some students perform at higher levels than other students. I mean, if that's not a fact, then why have any testing whatsoever?! Would be ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Wilson currently has "honors" biology and english classes for all students for 9th grade and chemestry and english for 10th grade. It is an attempt to stop the tracking of students when they begin high school...

This is the next step...having all students take two AP classes as Juniors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Back to the original topic - the school confirmed that this is universal AP for all - ALL JUNIORS will be forced to take AP US History and AP Language next year. No other option. There is some lip service to how they will use differentiation to address the needs of all students, but really, this seems like a very significant change to impose on students right now.

I do not see how you can implement this change without both (a) hindering the experience of those who are truly ready for these classes, and (b) increasing the stress and burden on students who are not. Obviously it will increase the number of students of color in AP classes because they will have no choice. They are forcing the student body to achieve this goal of equal representation in AP classes across all socio economic backgrounds, but they sure are willing to incur alot of innocent casualties along the way.

I didn’t see another email. Can you let us know how they confirmed?

Can somebody please publish the email announcing the further extension of Honors for All? Thanks

A message from Wilson HS
AP U.S. History and AP English Language
for All Juniors in School Year 2021-2022

The faculty and staff at Wilson High School are committed to creating equitable learning experiences for our students. From thoughtful reflection and inquiries to professional development opportunities to the implementation of institutional changes at our school, we continue to work to dismantle racist, patriarchal, and exclusionary systems at Wilson. This work is not done until we eradicate all systems of oppression that inhibit student learning and development and access to a supportive and rigorous learning environment for all.

Launched in the 2017-2018 school year, the Honors for All Initiative seeks to advance equity at our school. It is crucial that we continue this work across all grade levels and subject areas, while also expanding access to academic opportunities for all students. Following the work of the World History II Team last year, our next step in advancing equity at Wilson is to offer AP U.S. History and AP English Language for all juniors in the 2021-2022 academic year.

Moving to AP for all in both of the core English and Social Studies courses is an adaptive change that will require significant technical changes on the part of our staff. Our students are telling us they want access to equitable educational experiences, including AP classes. It is our job to make AP classes accessible, safe learning environments for all students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Back to the original topic - the school confirmed that this is universal AP for all - ALL JUNIORS will be forced to take AP US History and AP Language next year. No other option. There is some lip service to how they will use differentiation to address the needs of all students, but really, this seems like a very significant change to impose on students right now.

I do not see how you can implement this change without both (a) hindering the experience of those who are truly ready for these classes, and (b) increasing the stress and burden on students who are not. Obviously it will increase the number of students of color in AP classes because they will have no choice. They are forcing the student body to achieve this goal of equal representation in AP classes across all socio economic backgrounds, but they sure are willing to incur alot of innocent casualties along the way.

I didn’t see another email. Can you let us know how they confirmed?

Can somebody please publish the email announcing the further extension of Honors for All? Thanks

A message from Wilson HS
AP U.S. History and AP English Language
for All Juniors in School Year 2021-2022

The faculty and staff at Wilson High School are committed to creating equitable learning experiences for our students. From thoughtful reflection and inquiries to professional development opportunities to the implementation of institutional changes at our school, we continue to work to dismantle racist, patriarchal, and exclusionary systems at Wilson. This work is not done until we eradicate all systems of oppression that inhibit student learning and development and access to a supportive and rigorous learning environment for all.

Launched in the 2017-2018 school year, the Honors for All Initiative seeks to advance equity at our school. It is crucial that we continue this work across all grade levels and subject areas, while also expanding access to academic opportunities for all students. Following the work of the World History II Team last year, our next step in advancing equity at Wilson is to offer AP U.S. History and AP English Language for all juniors in the 2021-2022 academic year.

Moving to AP for all in both of the core English and Social Studies courses is an adaptive change that will require significant technical changes on the part of our staff. Our students are telling us they want access to equitable educational experiences, including AP classes. It is our job to make AP classes accessible, safe learning environments for all students.

My fear, looking at this from a few years out from Wilson, is that Martin is so focused on a social agenda, that it is unimportant to her if my blond-hair, blue-eyed, super-smart boy’s education is collateral damage.

I would love to hear that my fears are not justified and that he will be encouraged and allowed to thrive at Wilson.

[Anonymous]

LOL: your "fear" is a social agenda? What else could it be, the language of the email is explicit. "Equitable learning" requires removing "exclusionary systems."

Frankly: removing exclusionary systems sounds good, but the reality of the world is that all humans are not the best fit for all tasks. I think the motivation is noble, but the implementation requires someone smart and wise and effectively educated to implement...otherwise, it does more harm than good, in the long run.