Am I too strict about playground kid mask rule?

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Anonymous wrote:For everyone saying, kids don't get covid outdoors or on the playground...the one time I took my masked kid to a playground in the fall he got a cold, which he gave to the rest of the family.

At the time, we were working at home, doing virtual schooling, and hadn't been inside a store or visited with anyone for a few weeks. 95% of the kids on the playground were masked.

So you absolutely CAN get something on a playground if you are there for a while with other kids around. The chances are not high, but they exist.

You cannot get Covid outside. So what if he got a cold? I bet he was masked.

Yes you can. It’s less likely, but close proximity and lack of wind are conducive to COVID spread.

Show me a study that shows outdoor transmission happens without indoor mixing.


I have read many studies on outdoor transmission. All cases included indoor mixing. Why can’t you point to one?
It’s practically impossible. You are more likely to die while masked en route to the playground.

https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-comments-about-outdoor-transmission-of-sars-cov-2-and-use-of-facemasks-outdoors/

Kids stand close to each other. If someone with COVID spits in your face you get COVID. What’s so hard to understand?

Sorry but your article only states that a wet mask is ineffective. So the kid with spit in his mask has a mask that doesn’t work at all. Next time try to find a study that shows outdoor spread.

There are at list 7 articles cited. Next time try opening the other ones and read the commentary on each.

None of the studies show outdoor transmission without indoor mixing. Show me one that does. The outdoor mask mandates come from the same people who insisted on school closures. Out of an abundance of caution...

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=it&as_sdt=0%2C47&q=outdoor+covid+transmission+masks&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&u=%23p%3DgIoV-6AZZXAJ

Show me the studies you are talking about? So far you just vaguely allude to something you’ve read and ask me to do all the work for you.

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Anonymous wrote:For everyone saying, kids don't get covid outdoors or on the playground...the one time I took my masked kid to a playground in the fall he got a cold, which he gave to the rest of the family.

At the time, we were working at home, doing virtual schooling, and hadn't been inside a store or visited with anyone for a few weeks. 95% of the kids on the playground were masked.

So you absolutely CAN get something on a playground if you are there for a while with other kids around. The chances are not high, but they exist.

You cannot get Covid outside. So what if he got a cold? I bet he was masked.

Yes you can. It’s less likely, but close proximity and lack of wind are conducive to COVID spread.

Show me a study that shows outdoor transmission happens without indoor mixing.


I have read many studies on outdoor transmission. All cases included indoor mixing. Why can’t you point to one?
It’s practically impossible. You are more likely to die while masked en route to the playground.

https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-comments-about-outdoor-transmission-of-sars-cov-2-and-use-of-facemasks-outdoors/

Kids stand close to each other. If someone with COVID spits in your face you get COVID. What’s so hard to understand?

Sorry but your article only states that a wet mask is ineffective. So the kid with spit in his mask has a mask that doesn’t work at all. Next time try to find a study that shows outdoor spread.

There are at list 7 articles cited. Next time try opening the other ones and read the commentary on each.

None of the studies show outdoor transmission without indoor mixing. Show me one that does. The outdoor mask mandates come from the same people who insisted on school closures. Out of an abundance of caution...

Which one of those studies cites showed indoor mixing? Please show.

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Anonymous wrote:For everyone saying, kids don't get covid outdoors or on the playground...the one time I took my masked kid to a playground in the fall he got a cold, which he gave to the rest of the family.

At the time, we were working at home, doing virtual schooling, and hadn't been inside a store or visited with anyone for a few weeks. 95% of the kids on the playground were masked.

So you absolutely CAN get something on a playground if you are there for a while with other kids around. The chances are not high, but they exist.

This is meaningless.

Most common colds are caused by rhinoviruses. They are much more primitive than coronaviruses, and thus linger on surfaces much longer and are harder to kill with hand sanitizer, etc. Especially if your kid is a little one, he probably got a cold from touching surfaces at the playground and then touching his nose, mouth, etc. before getting the chance to wash hands.

Just wait until they find out about norovirus.

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Anonymous wrote:For everyone saying, kids don't get covid outdoors or on the playground...the one time I took my masked kid to a playground in the fall he got a cold, which he gave to the rest of the family.

At the time, we were working at home, doing virtual schooling, and hadn't been inside a store or visited with anyone for a few weeks. 95% of the kids on the playground were masked.

So you absolutely CAN get something on a playground if you are there for a while with other kids around. The chances are not high, but they exist.

You cannot get Covid outside. So what if he got a cold? I bet he was masked.

Yes you can. It’s less likely, but close proximity and lack of wind are conducive to COVID spread.

Show me a study that shows outdoor transmission happens without indoor mixing.


I have read many studies on outdoor transmission. All cases included indoor mixing. Why can’t you point to one?
It’s practically impossible. You are more likely to die while masked en route to the playground.

https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-comments-about-outdoor-transmission-of-sars-cov-2-and-use-of-facemasks-outdoors/

Kids stand close to each other. If someone with COVID spits in your face you get COVID. What’s so hard to understand?

Sorry but your article only states that a wet mask is ineffective. So the kid with spit in his mask has a mask that doesn’t work at all. Next time try to find a study that shows outdoor spread.

There are at list 7 articles cited. Next time try opening the other ones and read the commentary on each.

None of the studies show outdoor transmission without indoor mixing. Show me one that does. The outdoor mask mandates come from the same people who insisted on school closures. Out of an abundance of caution...

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=it&as_sdt=0%2C47&q=outdoor+covid+transmission+masks&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&u=%23p%3DgIoV-6AZZXAJ

Show me the studies you are talking about? So far you just vaguely allude to something you’ve read and ask me to do all the work for you.

From the article you just posted..

“ lack of personal protective equipment, and occasional indoor gathering during a largely outdoor experience were associated with outdoor reports of infection.”

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Anonymous wrote:For everyone saying, kids don't get covid outdoors or on the playground...the one time I took my masked kid to a playground in the fall he got a cold, which he gave to the rest of the family.

At the time, we were working at home, doing virtual schooling, and hadn't been inside a store or visited with anyone for a few weeks. 95% of the kids on the playground were masked.

So you absolutely CAN get something on a playground if you are there for a while with other kids around. The chances are not high, but they exist.

You cannot get Covid outside. So what if he got a cold? I bet he was masked.

Yes you can. It’s less likely, but close proximity and lack of wind are conducive to COVID spread.

Show me a study that shows outdoor transmission happens without indoor mixing.


I have read many studies on outdoor transmission. All cases included indoor mixing. Why can’t you point to one?
It’s practically impossible. You are more likely to die while masked en route to the playground.

https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-comments-about-outdoor-transmission-of-sars-cov-2-and-use-of-facemasks-outdoors/

Kids stand close to each other. If someone with COVID spits in your face you get COVID. What’s so hard to understand?

Sorry but your article only states that a wet mask is ineffective. So the kid with spit in his mask has a mask that doesn’t work at all. Next time try to find a study that shows outdoor spread.

There are at list 7 articles cited. Next time try opening the other ones and read the commentary on each.

None of the studies show outdoor transmission without indoor mixing. Show me one that does. The outdoor mask mandates come from the same people who insisted on school closures. Out of an abundance of caution...

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=it&as_sdt=0%2C47&q=outdoor+covid+transmission+masks&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&u=%23p%3DgIoV-6AZZXAJ

Show me the studies you are talking about? So far you just vaguely allude to something you’ve read and ask me to do all the work for you.

From the article you just posted..

“ lack of personal protective equipment, and occasional indoor gathering during a largely outdoor experience were associated with outdoor reports of infection.”

So masks and social distance work, while being indoors and lack of masks make people more vulnerable to COVID. It does not contradict my statement that masks outside should be worn.

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Anonymous wrote:For everyone saying, kids don't get covid outdoors or on the playground...the one time I took my masked kid to a playground in the fall he got a cold, which he gave to the rest of the family.

At the time, we were working at home, doing virtual schooling, and hadn't been inside a store or visited with anyone for a few weeks. 95% of the kids on the playground were masked.

So you absolutely CAN get something on a playground if you are there for a while with other kids around. The chances are not high, but they exist.

You cannot get Covid outside. So what if he got a cold? I bet he was masked.

Yes you can. It’s less likely, but close proximity and lack of wind are conducive to COVID spread.

Show me a study that shows outdoor transmission happens without indoor mixing.


I have read many studies on outdoor transmission. All cases included indoor mixing. Why can’t you point to one?
It’s practically impossible. You are more likely to die while masked en route to the playground.

https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-comments-about-outdoor-transmission-of-sars-cov-2-and-use-of-facemasks-outdoors/

Kids stand close to each other. If someone with COVID spits in your face you get COVID. What’s so hard to understand?

Sorry but your article only states that a wet mask is ineffective. So the kid with spit in his mask has a mask that doesn’t work at all. Next time try to find a study that shows outdoor spread.

There are at list 7 articles cited. Next time try opening the other ones and read the commentary on each.

None of the studies show outdoor transmission without indoor mixing. Show me one that does. The outdoor mask mandates come from the same people who insisted on school closures. Out of an abundance of caution...

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=it&as_sdt=0%2C47&q=outdoor+covid+transmission+masks&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&u=%23p%3DgIoV-6AZZXAJ

Show me the studies you are talking about? So far you just vaguely allude to something you’ve read and ask me to do all the work for you.

From the article you just posted..

“ lack of personal protective equipment, and occasional indoor gathering during a largely outdoor experience were associated with outdoor reports of infection.”

So masks and social distance work, while being indoors and lack of masks make people more vulnerable to COVID. It does not contradict my statement that masks outside should be worn.

Masks have a modest effect size indoors. People should avoid mixing indoors. Outdoor transmission is associated with indoor mixing.

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Anonymous wrote:For everyone saying, kids don't get covid outdoors or on the playground...the one time I took my masked kid to a playground in the fall he got a cold, which he gave to the rest of the family.

At the time, we were working at home, doing virtual schooling, and hadn't been inside a store or visited with anyone for a few weeks. 95% of the kids on the playground were masked.

So you absolutely CAN get something on a playground if you are there for a while with other kids around. The chances are not high, but they exist.

You cannot get Covid outside. So what if he got a cold? I bet he was masked.

Yes you can. It’s less likely, but close proximity and lack of wind are conducive to COVID spread.

Show me a study that shows outdoor transmission happens without indoor mixing.


I have read many studies on outdoor transmission. All cases included indoor mixing. Why can’t you point to one?
It’s practically impossible. You are more likely to die while masked en route to the playground.

https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-comments-about-outdoor-transmission-of-sars-cov-2-and-use-of-facemasks-outdoors/

Kids stand close to each other. If someone with COVID spits in your face you get COVID. What’s so hard to understand?

Sorry but your article only states that a wet mask is ineffective. So the kid with spit in his mask has a mask that doesn’t work at all. Next time try to find a study that shows outdoor spread.

There are at list 7 articles cited. Next time try opening the other ones and read the commentary on each.

None of the studies show outdoor transmission without indoor mixing. Show me one that does. The outdoor mask mandates come from the same people who insisted on school closures. Out of an abundance of caution...

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=it&as_sdt=0%2C47&q=outdoor+covid+transmission+masks&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&u=%23p%3DgIoV-6AZZXAJ

Show me the studies you are talking about? So far you just vaguely allude to something you’ve read and ask me to do all the work for you.

From the article you just posted..

“ lack of personal protective equipment, and occasional indoor gathering during a largely outdoor experience were associated with outdoor reports of infection.”

So masks and social distance work, while being indoors and lack of masks make people more vulnerable to COVID. It does not contradict my statement that masks outside should be worn.

Masks have a modest effect size indoors. People should avoid mixing indoors. Outdoor transmission is associated with indoor mixing.

That was just one of the associations listed in the article, you are being intentionally obtuse. Proximity, length of the interactions, and make were the other factors that you are trying to omit.

Also, where are all the articles you claimed to have read? You cited none, and none of your statements are backed. Way to mislead everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:For everyone saying, kids don't get covid outdoors or on the playground...the one time I took my masked kid to a playground in the fall he got a cold, which he gave to the rest of the family.

At the time, we were working at home, doing virtual schooling, and hadn't been inside a store or visited with anyone for a few weeks. 95% of the kids on the playground were masked.

So you absolutely CAN get something on a playground if you are there for a while with other kids around. The chances are not high, but they exist.

You cannot get Covid outside. So what if he got a cold? I bet he was masked.

Yes you can. It’s less likely, but close proximity and lack of wind are conducive to COVID spread.

Show me a study that shows outdoor transmission happens without indoor mixing.


I have read many studies on outdoor transmission. All cases included indoor mixing. Why can’t you point to one?
It’s practically impossible. You are more likely to die while masked en route to the playground.

https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-comments-about-outdoor-transmission-of-sars-cov-2-and-use-of-facemasks-outdoors/

Kids stand close to each other. If someone with COVID spits in your face you get COVID. What’s so hard to understand?

Sorry but your article only states that a wet mask is ineffective. So the kid with spit in his mask has a mask that doesn’t work at all. Next time try to find a study that shows outdoor spread.

There are at list 7 articles cited. Next time try opening the other ones and read the commentary on each.

None of the studies show outdoor transmission without indoor mixing. Show me one that does. The outdoor mask mandates come from the same people who insisted on school closures. Out of an abundance of caution...

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=it&as_sdt=0%2C47&q=outdoor+covid+transmission+masks&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&u=%23p%3DgIoV-6AZZXAJ

Show me the studies you are talking about? So far you just vaguely allude to something you’ve read and ask me to do all the work for you.

From the article you just posted..

“ lack of personal protective equipment, and occasional indoor gathering during a largely outdoor experience were associated with outdoor reports of infection.”

So masks and social distance work, while being indoors and lack of masks make people more vulnerable to COVID. It does not contradict my statement that masks outside should be worn.

Masks have a modest effect size indoors. People should avoid mixing indoors. Outdoor transmission is associated with indoor mixing.

That was just one of the associations listed in the article, you are being intentionally obtuse. Proximity, length of the interactions, and make were the other factors that you are trying to omit.

Also, where are all the articles you claimed to have read? You cited none, and none of your statements are backed. Way to mislead everyone.

Sorry, but you the one you chose specifically called out indoor mixing. I have read many, and I have yet to see outdoor transmission without indoor mixing. The burden of proof is on you.

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Anonymous wrote:For everyone saying, kids don't get covid outdoors or on the playground...the one time I took my masked kid to a playground in the fall he got a cold, which he gave to the rest of the family.

At the time, we were working at home, doing virtual schooling, and hadn't been inside a store or visited with anyone for a few weeks. 95% of the kids on the playground were masked.

So you absolutely CAN get something on a playground if you are there for a while with other kids around. The chances are not high, but they exist.

You cannot get Covid outside. So what if he got a cold? I bet he was masked.

Yes you can. It’s less likely, but close proximity and lack of wind are conducive to COVID spread.

Show me a study that shows outdoor transmission happens without indoor mixing.


I have read many studies on outdoor transmission. All cases included indoor mixing. Why can’t you point to one?
It’s practically impossible. You are more likely to die while masked en route to the playground.

https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-comments-about-outdoor-transmission-of-sars-cov-2-and-use-of-facemasks-outdoors/

Kids stand close to each other. If someone with COVID spits in your face you get COVID. What’s so hard to understand?

Sorry but your article only states that a wet mask is ineffective. So the kid with spit in his mask has a mask that doesn’t work at all. Next time try to find a study that shows outdoor spread.

There are at list 7 articles cited. Next time try opening the other ones and read the commentary on each.

None of the studies show outdoor transmission without indoor mixing. Show me one that does. The outdoor mask mandates come from the same people who insisted on school closures. Out of an abundance of caution...

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=it&as_sdt=0%2C47&q=outdoor+covid+transmission+masks&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&u=%23p%3DgIoV-6AZZXAJ

Show me the studies you are talking about? So far you just vaguely allude to something you’ve read and ask me to do all the work for you.

From the article you just posted..

“ lack of personal protective equipment, and occasional indoor gathering during a largely outdoor experience were associated with outdoor reports of infection.”

So masks and social distance work, while being indoors and lack of masks make people more vulnerable to COVID. It does not contradict my statement that masks outside should be worn.

Masks have a modest effect size indoors. People should avoid mixing indoors. Outdoor transmission is associated with indoor mixing.

That was just one of the associations listed in the article, you are being intentionally obtuse. Proximity, length of the interactions, and make were the other factors that you are trying to omit.

Also, where are all the articles you claimed to have read? You cited none, and none of your statements are backed. Way to mislead everyone.

Sorry, but you the one you chose specifically called out indoor mixing. I have read many, and I have yet to see outdoor transmission without indoor mixing. The burden of proof is on you.

Hahah. The burden of proof that you read many is on me? Show me one that it said that outdoor transmission is impossible without indoor mixing? You can’t.

I’ve posted several articles, you posted none.

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Anonymous wrote:For everyone saying, kids don't get covid outdoors or on the playground...the one time I took my masked kid to a playground in the fall he got a cold, which he gave to the rest of the family.

At the time, we were working at home, doing virtual schooling, and hadn't been inside a store or visited with anyone for a few weeks. 95% of the kids on the playground were masked.

So you absolutely CAN get something on a playground if you are there for a while with other kids around. The chances are not high, but they exist.

You cannot get Covid outside. So what if he got a cold? I bet he was masked.

Yes you can. It’s less likely, but close proximity and lack of wind are conducive to COVID spread.

Show me a study that shows outdoor transmission happens without indoor mixing.


I have read many studies on outdoor transmission. All cases included indoor mixing. Why can’t you point to one?
It’s practically impossible. You are more likely to die while masked en route to the playground.

https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-comments-about-outdoor-transmission-of-sars-cov-2-and-use-of-facemasks-outdoors/

Kids stand close to each other. If someone with COVID spits in your face you get COVID. What’s so hard to understand?

Sorry but your article only states that a wet mask is ineffective. So the kid with spit in his mask has a mask that doesn’t work at all. Next time try to find a study that shows outdoor spread.

There are at list 7 articles cited. Next time try opening the other ones and read the commentary on each.

None of the studies show outdoor transmission without indoor mixing. Show me one that does. The outdoor mask mandates come from the same people who insisted on school closures. Out of an abundance of caution...

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=it&as_sdt=0%2C47&q=outdoor+covid+transmission+masks&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&u=%23p%3DgIoV-6AZZXAJ

Show me the studies you are talking about? So far you just vaguely allude to something you’ve read and ask me to do all the work for you.

From the article you just posted..

“ lack of personal protective equipment, and occasional indoor gathering during a largely outdoor experience were associated with outdoor reports of infection.”

So masks and social distance work, while being indoors and lack of masks make people more vulnerable to COVID. It does not contradict my statement that masks outside should be worn.

Masks have a modest effect size indoors. People should avoid mixing indoors. Outdoor transmission is associated with indoor mixing.

That was just one of the associations listed in the article, you are being intentionally obtuse. Proximity, length of the interactions, and make were the other factors that you are trying to omit.

Also, where are all the articles you claimed to have read? You cited none, and none of your statements are backed. Way to mislead everyone.

Sorry, but you the one you chose specifically called out indoor mixing. I have read many, and I have yet to see outdoor transmission without indoor mixing. The burden of proof is on you.

Hahah. The burden of proof that you read many is on me? Show me one that it said that outdoor transmission is impossible without indoor mixing? You can’t.

I’ve posted several articles, you posted none.

You can’t prove a negative. You have posted zero articles that show transmission from outdoors.

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Anonymous wrote:For everyone saying, kids don't get covid outdoors or on the playground...the one time I took my masked kid to a playground in the fall he got a cold, which he gave to the rest of the family.

At the time, we were working at home, doing virtual schooling, and hadn't been inside a store or visited with anyone for a few weeks. 95% of the kids on the playground were masked.

So you absolutely CAN get something on a playground if you are there for a while with other kids around. The chances are not high, but they exist.

You cannot get Covid outside. So what if he got a cold? I bet he was masked.

Yes you can. It’s less likely, but close proximity and lack of wind are conducive to COVID spread.

Show me a study that shows outdoor transmission happens without indoor mixing.


I have read many studies on outdoor transmission. All cases included indoor mixing. Why can’t you point to one?
It’s practically impossible. You are more likely to die while masked en route to the playground.

https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-comments-about-outdoor-transmission-of-sars-cov-2-and-use-of-facemasks-outdoors/

Kids stand close to each other. If someone with COVID spits in your face you get COVID. What’s so hard to understand?

Sorry but your article only states that a wet mask is ineffective. So the kid with spit in his mask has a mask that doesn’t work at all. Next time try to find a study that shows outdoor spread.

There are at list 7 articles cited. Next time try opening the other ones and read the commentary on each.

None of the studies show outdoor transmission without indoor mixing. Show me one that does. The outdoor mask mandates come from the same people who insisted on school closures. Out of an abundance of caution...

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=it&as_sdt=0%2C47&q=outdoor+covid+transmission+masks&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&u=%23p%3DgIoV-6AZZXAJ

Show me the studies you are talking about? So far you just vaguely allude to something you’ve read and ask me to do all the work for you.

From the article you just posted..

“ lack of personal protective equipment, and occasional indoor gathering during a largely outdoor experience were associated with outdoor reports of infection.”

So masks and social distance work, while being indoors and lack of masks make people more vulnerable to COVID. It does not contradict my statement that masks outside should be worn.

Masks have a modest effect size indoors. People should avoid mixing indoors. Outdoor transmission is associated with indoor mixing.

That was just one of the associations listed in the article, you are being intentionally obtuse. Proximity, length of the interactions, and make were the other factors that you are trying to omit.

Also, where are all the articles you claimed to have read? You cited none, and none of your statements are backed. Way to mislead everyone.

Sorry, but you the one you chose specifically called out indoor mixing. I have read many, and I have yet to see outdoor transmission without indoor mixing. The burden of proof is on you.

Hahah. The burden of proof that you read many is on me? Show me one that it said that outdoor transmission is impossible without indoor mixing? You can’t.

I’ve posted several articles, you posted none.

You can’t prove a negative. You have posted zero articles that show transmission from outdoors.

I did. You chose not to read them. Outdoor transmission is possible, but it’s obviously hard to document. It can be simulated though. Masks help.

Another one for those who can read: https://www.utsa.edu/today/2020/09/story/covid-spread-outdoor-conditions.html

With you, I am done.

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Anonymous wrote:For everyone saying, kids don't get covid outdoors or on the playground...the one time I took my masked kid to a playground in the fall he got a cold, which he gave to the rest of the family.

At the time, we were working at home, doing virtual schooling, and hadn't been inside a store or visited with anyone for a few weeks. 95% of the kids on the playground were masked.

So you absolutely CAN get something on a playground if you are there for a while with other kids around. The chances are not high, but they exist.

You cannot get Covid outside. So what if he got a cold? I bet he was masked.

Yes you can. It’s less likely, but close proximity and lack of wind are conducive to COVID spread.

Show me a study that shows outdoor transmission happens without indoor mixing.


I have read many studies on outdoor transmission. All cases included indoor mixing. Why can’t you point to one?
It’s practically impossible. You are more likely to die while masked en route to the playground.

https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-comments-about-outdoor-transmission-of-sars-cov-2-and-use-of-facemasks-outdoors/

Kids stand close to each other. If someone with COVID spits in your face you get COVID. What’s so hard to understand?

Sorry but your article only states that a wet mask is ineffective. So the kid with spit in his mask has a mask that doesn’t work at all. Next time try to find a study that shows outdoor spread.

There are at list 7 articles cited. Next time try opening the other ones and read the commentary on each.

None of the studies show outdoor transmission without indoor mixing. Show me one that does. The outdoor mask mandates come from the same people who insisted on school closures. Out of an abundance of caution...

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=it&as_sdt=0%2C47&q=outdoor+covid+transmission+masks&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&u=%23p%3DgIoV-6AZZXAJ

Show me the studies you are talking about? So far you just vaguely allude to something you’ve read and ask me to do all the work for you.

From the article you just posted..

“ lack of personal protective equipment, and occasional indoor gathering during a largely outdoor experience were associated with outdoor reports of infection.”

So masks and social distance work, while being indoors and lack of masks make people more vulnerable to COVID. It does not contradict my statement that masks outside should be worn.

Masks have a modest effect size indoors. People should avoid mixing indoors. Outdoor transmission is associated with indoor mixing.

That was just one of the associations listed in the article, you are being intentionally obtuse. Proximity, length of the interactions, and make were the other factors that you are trying to omit.

Also, where are all the articles you claimed to have read? You cited none, and none of your statements are backed. Way to mislead everyone.

Sorry, but you the one you chose specifically called out indoor mixing. I have read many, and I have yet to see outdoor transmission without indoor mixing. The burden of proof is on you.

Hahah. The burden of proof that you read many is on me? Show me one that it said that outdoor transmission is impossible without indoor mixing? You can’t.

I’ve posted several articles, you posted none.

You can’t prove a negative. You have posted zero articles that show transmission from outdoors.

And yes, I can’t prove a negative, but it’s obvious that you’ve have not read anything. It’s also clear that you can’t work with scientific literature at all.

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Anonymous wrote:For everyone saying, kids don't get covid outdoors or on the playground...the one time I took my masked kid to a playground in the fall he got a cold, which he gave to the rest of the family.

At the time, we were working at home, doing virtual schooling, and hadn't been inside a store or visited with anyone for a few weeks. 95% of the kids on the playground were masked.

So you absolutely CAN get something on a playground if you are there for a while with other kids around. The chances are not high, but they exist.

You cannot get Covid outside. So what if he got a cold? I bet he was masked.

Yes you can. It’s less likely, but close proximity and lack of wind are conducive to COVID spread.

Show me a study that shows outdoor transmission happens without indoor mixing.


I have read many studies on outdoor transmission. All cases included indoor mixing. Why can’t you point to one?
It’s practically impossible. You are more likely to die while masked en route to the playground.

https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-comments-about-outdoor-transmission-of-sars-cov-2-and-use-of-facemasks-outdoors/

Kids stand close to each other. If someone with COVID spits in your face you get COVID. What’s so hard to understand?

Sorry but your article only states that a wet mask is ineffective. So the kid with spit in his mask has a mask that doesn’t work at all. Next time try to find a study that shows outdoor spread.

There are at list 7 articles cited. Next time try opening the other ones and read the commentary on each.

None of the studies show outdoor transmission without indoor mixing. Show me one that does. The outdoor mask mandates come from the same people who insisted on school closures. Out of an abundance of caution...

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=it&as_sdt=0%2C47&q=outdoor+covid+transmission+masks&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&u=%23p%3DgIoV-6AZZXAJ

Show me the studies you are talking about? So far you just vaguely allude to something you’ve read and ask me to do all the work for you.

From the article you just posted..

“ lack of personal protective equipment, and occasional indoor gathering during a largely outdoor experience were associated with outdoor reports of infection.”

So masks and social distance work, while being indoors and lack of masks make people more vulnerable to COVID. It does not contradict my statement that masks outside should be worn.

Masks have a modest effect size indoors. People should avoid mixing indoors. Outdoor transmission is associated with indoor mixing.

That was just one of the associations listed in the article, you are being intentionally obtuse. Proximity, length of the interactions, and make were the other factors that you are trying to omit.

Also, where are all the articles you claimed to have read? You cited none, and none of your statements are backed. Way to mislead everyone.

Sorry, but you the one you chose specifically called out indoor mixing. I have read many, and I have yet to see outdoor transmission without indoor mixing. The burden of proof is on you.

Hahah. The burden of proof that you read many is on me? Show me one that it said that outdoor transmission is impossible without indoor mixing? You can’t.

I’ve posted several articles, you posted none.

You can’t prove a negative. You have posted zero articles that show transmission from outdoors.

And yes, I can’t prove a negative, but it’s obvious that you’ve have not read anything. It’s also clear that you can’t work with scientific literature at all.

Sorry I’m done here. You’re masking outdoors out of an abundance of caution because theoretically it could occur, even though it hasn’t been documented. Enjoy!

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OP where do you live and what times of the day are you available to go? Someone should be able to help out with suggestions. Personally, unmasked kids on a playground doesn't bother me, but we don't have your risk factors. But I agree it's not really fair to your kid to keep bailing on outdoor activities.

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Anonymous wrote:This is too strict for me (my kid always wears a mask but we encounter kids without masks all the time and it doesn't bother me unless they are getting up in my kid's face).

However, the really problem is the approach. It's too confusing and stressful for your kid, who never knows if he's going to get to play at the playground. And while I have zero problems with the donut treat, it's not a great substitute for playing at the playground. Give your kid a donut if you want to, but if the goal of the afternoon is playing outdoors, you should find a way to play outdoors.

I think you need to figure out which playgrounds near you are less crowded at what times of day and frequent those at those times. Or figure out the playgrounds that seem to have the best mask compliance.

I take my DD to a small playground that is rarely busy a lot, partly because of Covid but also partly because she just doesn't love really crowded playgrounds (nor do I) and it's easier on everyone to go somewhere that she's not going to have to compete with 20 kids for a ride on the slide. So I just started gravitating to that playground over time because we were comfortable there and kept having good experiences. Every now and again we'll go there and it will be more crowded, and this usually means we don't stay quite as long.

But I think constantly bailing on playground plans because of the crowd is too much. Kids your son's age need some routine and they are learning how trust works. They need a sense of security and to feel like they know what's coming. You're teaching him that his ability to play and be outside is entirely dependent on the choices of strangers and can change day to day. That's the kind of lesson kids in war zones learn and it has longterm negative impacts on them. Your kid doesn't live in a war zone. If you wear masks, stay outside, and choose to leave if there is behavior that concerns you, you're fine. And your kid still gets to play.

+1 I am with you PP. My kid wears a mask but I don't really care if other kids wear one unless they are blowing on my DCs face.

OP--You need to do your homework and prep your child for all of the outcomes. Kids need to know what to expect. "If kids aren't wearing masks we will go _______________ (not Dunkin Donuts)." There are so many neighborhood playgrounds and nature trails in this area. If you want to avoid other people you can. Find your one place that is never crowded and that is your plan B. There are so many hiking trails and outdoor areas where your DC can wander without seeing another person. We frequent the more popular locations like Potomac Overlook and can manage to avoid people on the busiest days.