APS - why are teachers so terrified?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They live in fear. They can’t cope with the reality that life is about balancing risk. If you can’t handle being with the same 30 kids who have been screened prior to sitting in your classroom, in PPE and with cleaning supplies I don’t know what to say to them. Nurses r in close contact with covid patients and have continued through all last year without a vaccine. Grocery clerks who have hundreds of people walk past them daily (who did not get a temp check or may not be wearing a mask) have been at work since the start.

My question is...what makes these teachers so precious and so much better than all the other essential workers out there today? What makes these teachers more special and more prone to getting covid than the other 40+ states with schools open since last Fall? What makes these teachers so essential, that it’s ok to send unvaccinated subs to take their place?

If you fear being around kids this much you have made a wrong career choice and this is the perfect time to reevaluate your career plans.

Who have been screened? LOLOLOL. Oh, right, you mean their selfish, entitled parents, who demand their childcare and dismiss any symptoms convenently as "allergies," because God forbid they have to keep their kid home when "OMG I have a meeting!!!" "certified" (lied) on a daily screener? The same parents who routinely dope up their kids with Tylenol and send them to school even before COVID (and if you don't think they'll keep doing that now because they'll "take COVID seriously," a second LOLOL)? You mean the kids with no required routine testing of the asymptomatic? "Who have been screened?"

I can't with you people. Just say you want your kids out of your house and jammed into buildings and you don't give a damn about anything or anyone else. At least then it would be honest.

Let me guess, you’re a teacher. I feel sorry for the kids who pass through you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My only thought is that they are afraid because they have not been in a classroom for almost a year. If they had returned in the fall, and realized that elementary is a safe environment with masks, etc, it wouldn't be such a big deal now. But it's all snowballed because it's taking forever to get them back

and that was completely inappropriate for the teacher to complain to her 2nd grade class... why place her fear on innocent children that cannot wait to get back in the classroom (for the most part anyway)

I love this comment. Absolutely agree. Principal should know about this.
IMO Everyone has gotten comfortable at home. I know a few colleagues who have parties and go to the beach but are going crazy about spending time with kids in a class. The demands are endless...vaccines, purifiers, not eating with the kids, not spending too much time indoors, makes me very sad to hear my colleagues sound so stupid.

This post has got to be fake. I’m excited to go back, but I most definitely think outdoors is great, am glad to have a vaccine, and have not gone to parties.

Troll!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They live in fear. They can’t cope with the reality that life is about balancing risk. If you can’t handle being with the same 30 kids who have been screened prior to sitting in your classroom, in PPE and with cleaning supplies I don’t know what to say to them. Nurses r in close contact with covid patients and have continued through all last year without a vaccine. Grocery clerks who have hundreds of people walk past them daily (who did not get a temp check or may not be wearing a mask) have been at work since the start.

My question is...what makes these teachers so precious and so much better than all the other essential workers out there today? What makes these teachers more special and more prone to getting covid than the other 40+ states with schools open since last Fall? What makes these teachers so essential, that it’s ok to send unvaccinated subs to take their place?

If you fear being around kids this much you have made a wrong career choice and this is the perfect time to reevaluate your career plans.

Although this sounds a bit harsh, it's exactly true. Sitting at my child's check-up this week, I thought to myself, geez.. I wonder if they invested thousands of dollars on proper ventilation, I wonder if every member of the staff has had a vaccine. They wore masks, took temp checks, and enforced hand-washing. But the office was too small for everyone to stay 6 feet apart. Yet, they are there, doing their job, and there was a sense of normalcy because they have been doing this all along, not living in fear and not throwing every possible excuse out there not to work. They had to figure it out or quit. Schools should have been open months ago. Now the fear-mongering and comfort of working from home is much harder to overcome.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP. Here’s a potential answer to OP’s question: no testing or tracing.

Yes. And indoor lunch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. Here’s a potential answer to OP’s question: no testing or tracing.

Yes. And indoor lunch.

get over it. everyone else has. If there were testing, tracing, and outdoor lunches, there would be new reasons not to return. We've all learned that these past several months. enough already.

[Anonymous]

If it takes about 50 pages to explain how a hybrid day will work...maybe it’s just a wee bit too complicated. Wrap up 2020-21 with DL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. Here’s a potential answer to OP’s question: no testing or tracing.

Yes. And indoor lunch.

get over it. everyone else has. If there were testing, tracing, and outdoor lunches, there would be new reasons not to return. We've all learned that these past several months. enough already.

F off. I was giving another reason why teachers might be worried.

Another is a-hole parents who don’t take safety precautions.

It’s not like we have some really well-thought-out plan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If it takes about 50 pages to explain how a hybrid day will work...maybe it’s just a wee bit too complicated. Wrap up 2020-21 with DL.

NOPE.. that would mean hybrid in the fall. Plus over a year of schools being closed is a pretty bad look on an already very tarnished school system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. Here’s a potential answer to OP’s question: no testing or tracing.

Yes. And indoor lunch.

get over it. everyone else has. If there were testing, tracing, and outdoor lunches, there would be new reasons not to return. We've all learned that these past several months. enough already.

F off. I was giving another reason why teachers might be worried.

Another is a-hole parents who don’t take safety precautions.

It’s not like we have some really well-thought-out plan.

umm.. what about the thousands of school systems that were able to make this work? do you think they all had a well-thought-out plan, or parents and teachers that were willing to work together to make in-person learning a priority to happen?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. Here’s a potential answer to OP’s question: no testing or tracing.

Yes. And indoor lunch.

get over it. everyone else has. If there were testing, tracing, and outdoor lunches, there would be new reasons not to return. We've all learned that these past several months. enough already.

F off. I was giving another reason why teachers might be worried.

Another is a-hole parents who don’t take safety precautions.

It’s not like we have some really well-thought-out plan.

umm.. what about the thousands of school systems that were able to make this work? do you think they all had a well-thought-out plan, or parents and teachers that were willing to work together to make in-person learning a priority to happen?

I think they were much smaller, had fewer overcapacity schools, and more space to spread out.

I’m sure the parents in FL weren’t concerned about teachers or kids catching Covid or any school safety measures. Life is simpler for Covid deniers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it takes about 50 pages to explain how a hybrid day will work...maybe it’s just a wee bit too complicated. Wrap up 2020-21 with DL.

NOPE.. that would mean hybrid in the fall. Plus over a year of schools being closed is a pretty bad look on an already very tarnished school system.

So leave. No one wants you here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. Here’s a potential answer to OP’s question: no testing or tracing.

Yes. And indoor lunch.

get over it. everyone else has. If there were testing, tracing, and outdoor lunches, there would be new reasons not to return. We've all learned that these past several months. enough already.

F off. I was giving another reason why teachers might be worried.

Another is a-hole parents who don’t take safety precautions.

It’s not like we have some really well-thought-out plan.

umm.. what about the thousands of school systems that were able to make this work? do you think they all had a well-thought-out plan, or parents and teachers that were willing to work together to make in-person learning a priority to happen?

The answer is they “made it work” only in the sense it happened. I am a teacher and I know a lot of teachers all over the country. The ones whose schools did this had so many interruptions and gaps between kids getting exposed and quarantining or themselves having to quarantine. One teacher I know has missed a cumulative 12 weeks of school due to 7 different quarantines after confirmed exposure. Imagine that chaos. I know teachers whose students lost parents to CoVID in these kinds of communities. Countless infections in building. Lots of flip flopping between full in person and remote. Arguably simply staying DL until was possible without all that was less stressful and more stable and consistent.

Nobody I know in a system even half the size of our local systems did this without much chaos, disruption, stress, and multiple exposures. It has been a mess. I am glad we are going back now and I’m glad we avoided all that as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. Here’s a potential answer to OP’s question: no testing or tracing.

Yes. And indoor lunch.

get over it. everyone else has. If there were testing, tracing, and outdoor lunches, there would be new reasons not to return. We've all learned that these past several months. enough already.

F off. I was giving another reason why teachers might be worried.

Another is a-hole parents who don’t take safety precautions.

It’s not like we have some really well-thought-out plan.

umm.. what about the thousands of school systems that were able to make this work? do you think they all had a well-thought-out plan, or parents and teachers that were willing to work together to make in-person learning a priority to happen?

The answer is they “made it work” only in the sense it happened. I am a teacher and I know a lot of teachers all over the country. The ones whose schools did this had so many interruptions and gaps between kids getting exposed and quarantining or themselves having to quarantine. One teacher I know has missed a cumulative 12 weeks of school due to 7 different quarantines after confirmed exposure. Imagine that chaos. I know teachers whose students lost parents to CoVID in these kinds of communities. Countless infections in building. Lots of flip flopping between full in person and remote. Arguably simply staying DL until was possible without all that was less stressful and more stable and consistent.

Nobody I know in a system even half the size of our local systems did this without much chaos, disruption, stress, and multiple exposures. It has been a mess. I am glad we are going back now and I’m glad we avoided all that as well.

This isn't the same situation for all school systems that have opened and PP, I'm sure you know that. I also have friends all over the country and have not heard nightmare stories at all. The schools that opened did so because both parents and teachers wanted what was best for the kids, they actually cared and were passionate about making that happen. it's not rocket science

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. Here’s a potential answer to OP’s question: no testing or tracing.

Yes. And indoor lunch.

get over it. everyone else has. If there were testing, tracing, and outdoor lunches, there would be new reasons not to return. We've all learned that these past several months. enough already.

F off. I was giving another reason why teachers might be worried.

Another is a-hole parents who don’t take safety precautions.

It’s not like we have some really well-thought-out plan.

umm.. what about the thousands of school systems that were able to make this work? do you think they all had a well-thought-out plan, or parents and teachers that were willing to work together to make in-person learning a priority to happen?

The answer is they “made it work” only in the sense it happened. I am a teacher and I know a lot of teachers all over the country. The ones whose schools did this had so many interruptions and gaps between kids getting exposed and quarantining or themselves having to quarantine. One teacher I know has missed a cumulative 12 weeks of school due to 7 different quarantines after confirmed exposure. Imagine that chaos. I know teachers whose students lost parents to CoVID in these kinds of communities. Countless infections in building. Lots of flip flopping between full in person and remote. Arguably simply staying DL until was possible without all that was less stressful and more stable and consistent.

Nobody I know in a system even half the size of our local systems did this without much chaos, disruption, stress, and multiple exposures. It has been a mess. I am glad we are going back now and I’m glad we avoided all that as well.

This isn't the same situation for all school systems that have opened and PP, I'm sure you know that. I also have friends all over the country and have not heard nightmare stories at all. The schools that opened did so because both parents and teachers wanted what was best for the kids, they actually cared and were passionate about making that happen. it's not rocket science

Omg. What a load of steaming crap. Go away, vile teacher hater.

[Anonymous]

The amazing thing is how low the covid rates are in Arlington compared to almost everywhere else AND teachers are vaccinated which isn’t true most other places *with open school*.

And I disagree that opening school in the fall and having classes occasionally move to a week of virtual learning for covid cases or testing would be worse than a year with no school at all. Which is what we got stuck with.

I agree with op, the teachers I know are very happy and comfortable with the current setup and had convinced themselves it would be a whole year like this.

Complaining about having to wear “PPE” all day! It’s a mask. Everyone who has been working in person since last April has worn a mask all day.