Watched Sex and the City for the first time in a while

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Anonymous wrote:Charlotte did marry a hot rich WASP. The man was impotent.

Clearly you missed some episodes.

Yes, at like age 35 to some gelded momma's boy Trey? That whore story arc was cringe, obviously motivated by writers set out to humiliate and settle scores WASP elites they were jealous of. How many episodes did that carry on for from beginning to end? Point is Charlotte wouldn't be on the dating market past mid 20s, she would have been long married to a boy she knew from prep school or college and had a few kids by the time the show began when the characters were in their early 30s (Sam was 40). The drop dead gorgeous blue blood can't find a husband until she's 35, then IVF issues, then WASP is a dud ... here's comes an ugly bald Jewish lawyer to save her.

This is 100% true. There was also a lot of score settling from the ugly girl nerd writers who had Charlotte, who would, everyone knows, have had her pick of the best/top men and ended up with the best guy, ending up with that ugly fat loser guy. And meanwhile Miranda, who no straight man would really want to date, ended up dating hot Blaire Underwood and slutty Samantha got Smith Jerrod. The whole thing was laughable "let's make a story where the prettiest girl gets humiliated story" and it was childish

No way! Charlotte’s second husband was the best. She got a keeper.

+1 Charlotte married up and by the end she knew it. Her character probably had the best growth.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I've never understood the appeal of that show.

I’ve never understood the appeal of Friends. I don’t understand how SATC can have multiple threads about not aging well and Friends gets a complete pass. Talk about unbelievable NYC representation. There were no BIPOC, gay, trans (except chandlers father who was played by a woman) in NY.

I pretend Friends doesn't exist. It was horrible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charlotte did marry a hot rich WASP. The man was impotent.

Clearly you missed some episodes.

Yes, at like age 35 to some gelded momma's boy Trey? That whore story arc was cringe, obviously motivated by writers set out to humiliate and settle scores WASP elites they were jealous of. How many episodes did that carry on for from beginning to end? Point is Charlotte wouldn't be on the dating market past mid 20s, she would have been long married to a boy she knew from prep school or college and had a few kids by the time the show began when the characters were in their early 30s (Sam was 40). The drop dead gorgeous blue blood can't find a husband until she's 35, then IVF issues, then WASP is a dud ... here's comes an ugly bald Jewish lawyer to save her.

This is 100% true. There was also a lot of score settling from the ugly girl nerd writers who had Charlotte, who would, everyone knows, have had her pick of the best/top men and ended up with the best guy, ending up with that ugly fat loser guy. And meanwhile Miranda, who no straight man would really want to date, ended up dating hot Blaire Underwood and slutty Samantha got Smith Jerrod. The whole thing was laughable "let's make a story where the prettiest girl gets humiliated story" and it was childish

No way! Charlotte’s second husband was the best. She got a keeper.

Absolutely. Loved him. And her whole growth story was about letting go of that destructive fantasy of the perfect WASP life and letting herself enjoy something messy but good.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:4am insomniac - enjoying reading all of your thoughts. The movies were a disappointment. For me, SATC was my escape. It was easy. I still turn on the E channel marathons. It's familiar and calming. I don't overanalyze it. I live in NY and at the time, the show mirrored my life. I wasn't like one of them, but a little like all of them. Marriage wasn't appealing and I repelled the thought. Sex was incredible, albeit fewer partners (Samantha), 60+ hour work weeks plus travel (Miranda), link that connected our circle of friends (Carrie), a few values/expectations and style (Charlotte). There was that one simple dress in different colors that Carrie wore often. It's the one she's wearing on the bus ad in the intro. Loved it and had it tailor made. Ruined it playing basketball after a wedding. Dined and played at many of the same restaurants and bars. The show was relatable to me, my friends and lots of NYC women at the time. 

Here's the fun part. Remember the Richard/Samantha scene on the pool deck? They were wearing white hotel robes and Richard forced Sam to confront her fear of love and connection. It was filmed at Sky Studio near NYU on W. 4th. We had our wedding reception there, a few weeks after the scenes were filmed. In fact, the chef and event planner were there at the time. Kim C (Sam) was not happy and ordered everyone out, since it was a nude scene. Understandable.    

The not so fun part--The Twin Towers were the back drop for the pool deck scene. I have so many pictures on that deck with the towers in the background. Six weeks after our reception, the towers were gone. My friend (videographer) and many of us were grief stricken. I was in Boston on 9/11. My family and friends were frantic since I shuttled back and forth every week. My husband still lived in Boston and his family and friends were frantic. He was headed to SF, on Wednesday 9/13, same flight# Boston-SF.

Months later we received the video. The final frame was a long night shot of the towers and fade to black with a heart wrenching, but touching sentiment. We watch it with our son sometimes, but never on the anniversary of 9/11.

I appreciated your post, especially your close call story. So many close calls, and yadira, some final curtain calls during that period. I worked for a dot com in silicon alley during the same time and can relate. I often remember SATC closing off the streets to film. I'm actually an extra in a few scenes. None of the stars talked to me but they cracked jokes all the time. I liked it when they wore uggs or flip flops with their designer clothes because they were only filming waist up.

Love that you were an extra! I also worked for a dot com at the time. We rode that wave, pp. Good times. Be well!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charlotte did marry a hot rich WASP. The man was impotent.

Clearly you missed some episodes.

Yes, at like age 35 to some gelded momma's boy Trey? That whole story arc was cringe, obviously motivated by writers set out to humiliate and settle scores WASP elites they were jealous of. How many episodes did that carry on for from beginning to end? Point is Charlotte wouldn't be on the dating market past mid 20s, she would have been long married to a boy she knew from prep school or college and had a few kids by the time the show began when the characters were in their early 30s (Sam was 40). The drop dead gorgeous blue blood can't find a husband until she's 35, then IVF issues, then WASP is a dud ... here's comes an ugly bald Jewish lawyer to save her.

You do know people haven't been marrying in their mid 20s for like.......decades now, right? This isn't some new phenomenon.

Gorgeous credentialed wasps like Charlotte marry and have children in their 20s. Only low stock trainwrecks are whoring around into their 30s because nobody will marry them. And Charlottes don’t marry random creepers they meet on the street (Trey) or convert to Judaism for creepy ugly divorce lawyers — they marry the hottest and richest guy they knew in boarding school or college. I’m sorry you’re too thick to see what really motivated this show’s writing.

The Jewish guy really loves Charlotte. He may not be handsome but people fall in love for qualities other than looks. I think Charlotte made some bad dating decisions. She may have needed therapy because she did not gravitate towards nice men only abusive ones that don't really love her. Making stupid general statements in you came up with in your teeny brain is cool but may not reflect this character's reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:4am insomniac - enjoying reading all of your thoughts. The movies were a disappointment. For me, SATC was my escape. It was easy. I still turn on the E channel marathons. It's familiar and calming. I don't overanalyze it. I live in NY and at the time, the show mirrored my life. I wasn't like one of them, but a little like all of them. Marriage wasn't appealing and I repelled the thought. Sex was incredible, albeit fewer partners (Samantha), 60+ hour work weeks plus travel (Miranda), link that connected our circle of friends (Carrie), a few values/expectations and style (Charlotte). There was that one simple dress in different colors that Carrie wore often. It's the one she's wearing on the bus ad in the intro. Loved it and had it tailor made. Ruined it playing basketball after a wedding. Dined and played at many of the same restaurants and bars. The show was relatable to me, my friends and lots of NYC women at the time. 

Here's the fun part. Remember the Richard/Samantha scene on the pool deck? They were wearing white hotel robes and Richard forced Sam to confront her fear of love and connection. It was filmed at Sky Studio near NYU on W. 4th. We had our wedding reception there, a few weeks after the scenes were filmed. In fact, the chef and event planner were there at the time. Kim C (Sam) was not happy and ordered everyone out, since it was a nude scene. Understandable.    

The not so fun part--The Twin Towers were the back drop for the pool deck scene. I have so many pictures on that deck with the towers in the background. Six weeks after our reception, the towers were gone. My friend (videographer) and many of us were grief stricken. I was in Boston on 9/11. My family and friends were frantic since I shuttled back and forth every week. My husband still lived in Boston and his family and friends were frantic. He was headed to SF, on Wednesday 9/13, same flight# Boston-SF.

Months later we received the video. The final frame was a long night shot of the towers and fade to black with a heart wrenching, but touching sentiment. We watch it with our son sometimes, but never on the anniversary of 9/11.

Thank you! Like you I was single in NYC at the time (late 20s) and my friends and me could relate a little to all of the women. They always said The City was the 5th character. We were at the restaurants, the Hamptons, clubs etc. It was great that they actually filmed at these locations. Watching I have my own memories of a lot of them. ( Sushi Samba, Denial, Bed, The Oak Room, even Down The Hatch)Unfortunately after 9/11 everything changed. Our mindsets were different and the show had to change. Single people really wanted to be partnered up. There was a desperation to all of them, but thats really what was happening.

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Also, as a 20-something, I didn't understand how much the having kids things -- when, with home, how many -- would become, for better and for worse, a great strain and great sorter of my female relationships by 35-40, and this is not realistically demonstrated in the show at all. I think a lot of us who watched the show at 20, and didn't think much about the characters being 40, are now 40 ourselves, and realize the show is about 40 yr olds acting like they're 20. That's yikes for me.

The last sentence is 100% true. It seemed sort of fascinating when we were 23 - now that we're the age they are supposed to be (around 40?), they just seem pathetic.

This.

I remember the episode where Carrie goes to a woman’s home with a baby and she has to take off her beloved Manolos. They get taken and she makes the mom pay her $500 for them. The moral of the episode is, “some women have families, and some of us have shoes.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charlotte did marry a hot rich WASP. The man was impotent.

Clearly you missed some episodes.

Yes, at like age 35 to some gelded momma's boy Trey? That whore story arc was cringe, obviously motivated by writers set out to humiliate and settle scores WASP elites they were jealous of. How many episodes did that carry on for from beginning to end? Point is Charlotte wouldn't be on the dating market past mid 20s, she would have been long married to a boy she knew from prep school or college and had a few kids by the time the show began when the characters were in their early 30s (Sam was 40). The drop dead gorgeous blue blood can't find a husband until she's 35, then IVF issues, then WASP is a dud ... here's comes an ugly bald Jewish lawyer to save her.

This is 100% true. There was also a lot of score settling from the ugly girl nerd writers who had Charlotte, who would, everyone knows, have had her pick of the best/top men and ended up with the best guy, ending up with that ugly fat loser guy. And meanwhile Miranda, who no straight man would really want to date, ended up dating hot Blaire Underwood and slutty Samantha got Smith Jerrod. The whole thing was laughable "let's make a story where the prettiest girl gets humiliated story" and it was childish

No way! Charlotte’s second husband was the best. She got a keeper.

Absolutely. Loved him. And her whole growth story was about letting go of that destructive fantasy of the perfect WASP life and letting herself enjoy something messy but good.

I liked Charlotte’s storyline. “Of all the synagogues in NYC, you walk into mine...” (Can’t believe I can quote this show, yeah!) I love how she got the fantasy life with Trey and it didn’t work out. Then she got the bald hairy Jewish guy who totally drove her wild and then they ended up adopting a Chinese baby girl.

[Anonymous]

Charlotte wanted to lose her husband not just marry someone to gain upward mobility/maintain social status. That is what separated her from the pack.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Charlotte wanted to lose her husband not just marry someone to gain upward mobility/maintain social status. That is what separated her from the pack.

LOVE not lose. Haha

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Steve is not a loser. He owns a bar with Aidan.

Also he is a high quality person, I know not something that is valued on DCUM.

I know! Until he cheated Steve was probably the best guy on the show. Aiden a close second. I hated Big. I hated the fascination with him, I hated how they ended up married. HATED Big.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I still do love Comos. Best martini ever!

Me too!

Me three!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Steve is not a loser. He owns a bar with Aidan.

Also he is a high quality person, I know not something that is valued on DCUM.

I know! Until he cheated Steve was probably the best guy on the show. Aiden a close second. I hated Big. I hated the fascination with him, I hated how they ended up married. HATED Big.

Hated Big, Steve, and Aidan. Smith Jerrod was the real prize!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Steve is not a loser. He owns a bar with Aidan.

Also he is a high quality person, I know not something that is valued on DCUM.

I know! Until he cheated Steve was probably the best guy on the show. Aiden a close second. I hated Big. I hated the fascination with him, I hated how they ended up married. HATED Big.

Hated Big, Steve, and Aidan. Smith Jerrod was the real prize!

Oh yeah I forgot about him. OK Smith THEN Steve then Aiden. LOL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:4am insomniac - enjoying reading all of your thoughts. The movies were a disappointment. For me, SATC was my escape. It was easy. I still turn on the E channel marathons. It's familiar and calming. I don't overanalyze it. I live in NY and at the time, the show mirrored my life. I wasn't like one of them, but a little like all of them. Marriage wasn't appealing and I repelled the thought. Sex was incredible, albeit fewer partners (Samantha), 60+ hour work weeks plus travel (Miranda), link that connected our circle of friends (Carrie), a few values/expectations and style (Charlotte). There was that one simple dress in different colors that Carrie wore often. It's the one she's wearing on the bus ad in the intro. Loved it and had it tailor made. Ruined it playing basketball after a wedding. Dined and played at many of the same restaurants and bars. The show was relatable to me, my friends and lots of NYC women at the time. 

Here's the fun part. Remember the Richard/Samantha scene on the pool deck? They were wearing white hotel robes and Richard forced Sam to confront her fear of love and connection. It was filmed at Sky Studio near NYU on W. 4th. We had our wedding reception there, a few weeks after the scenes were filmed. In fact, the chef and event planner were there at the time. Kim C (Sam) was not happy and ordered everyone out, since it was a nude scene. Understandable.    

The not so fun part--The Twin Towers were the back drop for the pool deck scene. I have so many pictures on that deck with the towers in the background. Six weeks after our reception, the towers were gone. My friend (videographer) and many of us were grief stricken. I was in Boston on 9/11. My family and friends were frantic since I shuttled back and forth every week. My husband still lived in Boston and his family and friends were frantic. He was headed to SF, on Wednesday 9/13, same flight# Boston-SF.

Months later we received the video. The final frame was a long night shot of the towers and fade to black with a heart wrenching, but touching sentiment. We watch it with our son sometimes, but never on the anniversary of 9/11.

Thank you! Like you I was single in NYC at the time (late 20s) and my friends and me could relate a little to all of the women. They always said The City was the 5th character. We were at the restaurants, the Hamptons, clubs etc. It was great that they actually filmed at these locations. Watching I have my own memories of a lot of them. ( Sushi Samba, Denial, Bed, The Oak Room, even Down The Hatch)Unfortunately after 9/11 everything changed. Our mindsets were different and the show had to change. Single people really wanted to be partnered up. There was a desperation to all of them, but thats really what was happening.

Yes, even moreso now! I'd turn on the E marathons for background noise during the early days of pandemic. I wasn't watching. But, from the dialogue, I envisioned exactly where they were in the city. It's become the 1st character for me. Hope life turned out exactly how you envisioned!