Organizing to lobby DC to allow larger class sizes under Phase 2/3

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm here for a regular school year. This isn't sustainable for working parents with no support systems around. It will crush our economy.


THIS. I cannot telework indefinitely! I hope the DC Mayor of Education and staff (ahem you know who are you) realize this! Not everybody has a support system to watch their kids while they go to work! We need schools to OPEN in September.


You would need to telework three days a week at most. But I hear there are plenty of places opening in full capacity in Florida for next school year.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm here for a regular school year. This isn't sustainable for working parents with no support systems around. It will crush our economy.


THIS. I cannot telework indefinitely! I hope the DC Mayor of Education and staff (ahem you know who are you) realize this! Not everybody has a support system to watch their kids while they go to work! We need schools to OPEN in September.


You would need to telework three days a week at most. But I hear there are plenty of places opening in full capacity in Florida for next school year.


DP. You forgot that those three days of "telework" would then have to be spent serving as the teaching assistant for our young elementary school students' teachers, because they cannot learn online without constant help and supervision. Might as well homeschool on your own.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm here for a regular school year. This isn't sustainable for working parents with no support systems around. It will crush our economy.


THIS. I cannot telework indefinitely! I hope the DC Mayor of Education and staff (ahem you know who are you) realize this! Not everybody has a support system to watch their kids while they go to work! We need schools to OPEN in September.


You would need to telework three days a week at most. But I hear there are plenty of places opening in full capacity in Florida for next school year.


Also, this isn’t right. First, three days “at most”?! That’s more than half the week. But also, it could be for 2 weeks at a clip! Or every other day in some way that’s sure to be exceptionally confusing if any closures happen. Of course the two weeks on/two weeks off is even more likely to go completely screwy if there’s a closure. I need full time school. Let people opt out. The most at risk teachers can head up DL for those who opt out.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm here for a regular school year. This isn't sustainable for working parents with no support systems around. It will crush our economy.


THIS. I cannot telework indefinitely! I hope the DC Mayor of Education and staff (ahem you know who are you) realize this! Not everybody has a support system to watch their kids while they go to work! We need schools to OPEN in September.


You would need to telework three days a week at most. But I hear there are plenty of places opening in full capacity in Florida for next school year.


Also, this isn’t right. First, three days “at most”?! That’s more than half the week. But also, it could be for 2 weeks at a clip! Or every other day in some way that’s sure to be exceptionally confusing if any closures happen. Of course the two weeks on/two weeks off is even more likely to go completely screwy if there’s a closure. I need full time school. Let people opt out. The most at risk teachers can head up DL for those who opt out.


The two weeks isn’t a real option. Either is every other day for the exact reason you said. There is going to be a hybrid model. Dcps has been clear with that. You need to start looking at how you will organize your life. Don’t wait until the last minute holding out hope.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm here for a regular school year. This isn't sustainable for working parents with no support systems around. It will crush our economy.


THIS. I cannot telework indefinitely! I hope the DC Mayor of Education and staff (ahem you know who are you) realize this! Not everybody has a support system to watch their kids while they go to work! We need schools to OPEN in September.


You would need to telework three days a week at most. But I hear there are plenty of places opening in full capacity in Florida for next school year.


Also, this isn’t right. First, three days “at most”?! That’s more than half the week. But also, it could be for 2 weeks at a clip! Or every other day in some way that’s sure to be exceptionally confusing if any closures happen. Of course the two weeks on/two weeks off is even more likely to go completely screwy if there’s a closure. I need full time school. Let people opt out. The most at risk teachers can head up DL for those who opt out.



I also have reason to believe the amount of people who are demanding full time in school is lower than what you are thinking. Just because this place is an echo chamber of the same people posting, you are under a false impression. They will release the survey results and a lot of people on this board are going to be surprised.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm here for a regular school year. This isn't sustainable for working parents with no support systems around. It will crush our economy.


THIS. I cannot telework indefinitely! I hope the DC Mayor of Education and staff (ahem you know who are you) realize this! Not everybody has a support system to watch their kids while they go to work! We need schools to OPEN in September.


You would need to telework three days a week at most. But I hear there are plenty of places opening in full capacity in Florida for next school year.


Also, this isn’t right. First, three days “at most”?! That’s more than half the week. But also, it could be for 2 weeks at a clip! Or every other day in some way that’s sure to be exceptionally confusing if any closures happen. Of course the two weeks on/two weeks off is even more likely to go completely screwy if there’s a closure. I need full time school. Let people opt out. The most at risk teachers can head up DL for those who opt out.



I also have reason to believe the amount of people who are demanding full time in school is lower than what you are thinking. Just because this place is an echo chamber of the same people posting, you are under a false impression. They will release the survey results and a lot of people on this board are going to be surprised.


NP. I will be very curious to see those results. I have been under the impression that on this board (oddly, especially on the DCPS board versus the Maryland and Virginia boards), there are a lot of people who seem totally fine with keeping kids out of school indefinitely despite all the collateral harms and the fact that mounting evidence suggests kids do not play a major role in transmission, we are literally everybody I talk to in real life wants kids to go back full-time and thinks this is unsustainable.
Anonymous
* While literally everybody I talk to
Anonymous
educatedc wrote:Per the ReOpen guidelines, schools, under each of Phase 2 and 3 must limit class sizes to 10, inclusive of the teachers, so really a max of 8 or 9. Restaurants and bars are allowed much more. Gatherings up to 250 are permitted. DC has chosen bars/restaurants over schools - no surprises that the school system is a failed system.

Schools cannot educate under these constraints - public schools are far worse off due to higher class sizes. The alternative is to sit your child alone at home on zoom - numerous studies have demonstrated this to be ineffective, and developmentally, lead to diminished social capacity.

DC Government needs to be heavily lobbied, and if that doesn't work, suing DC to revoke Mayor Bowser's order, which she has issued on shaky legal ground.

I am a lawyer, but more importantly, a parent. Anyone interested send an email to educatedc89@gmail.com to get a group started.


What you just said contradicts itself.

Parents have been lobbying for smaller class sizes, they got it, now this ISN'T what you want?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
educatedc wrote:Per the ReOpen guidelines, schools, under each of Phase 2 and 3 must limit class sizes to 10, inclusive of the teachers, so really a max of 8 or 9. Restaurants and bars are allowed much more. Gatherings up to 250 are permitted. DC has chosen bars/restaurants over schools - no surprises that the school system is a failed system.

Schools cannot educate under these constraints - public schools are far worse off due to higher class sizes. The alternative is to sit your child alone at home on zoom - numerous studies have demonstrated this to be ineffective, and developmentally, lead to diminished social capacity.

DC Government needs to be heavily lobbied, and if that doesn't work, suing DC to revoke Mayor Bowser's order, which she has issued on shaky legal ground.

I am a lawyer, but more importantly, a parent. Anyone interested send an email to educatedc89@gmail.com to get a group started.


What you just said contradicts itself.

Parents have been lobbying for smaller class sizes, they got it, now this ISN'T what you want?


They wanted it 5 years from now with countless, pointless school board and PTA meetings in-between, a parental fight or two, and their kids unbothered by the fuss.

I for one...love how proactive this time has forced schools to be. Change which would have taken 10 years is now taking 60 days. Amazing how things can be turned on its head with enough motivation.
Anonymous
I feel the pain of folks on both sides of this issue. This is really difficult. For those unable to telework throughout the school year, are there other families in your neighborhood with whom you can form a “pod” and trade off on homeschool duties? E.g., one family does homeschool with the kids from both families 2-3 days one week, then the other family does it the next? That way parents in each family can work at least two full weeks per month and only need to do homeschool the other half of the month?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm here for a regular school year. This isn't sustainable for working parents with no support systems around. It will crush our economy.


THIS. I cannot telework indefinitely! I hope the DC Mayor of Education and staff (ahem you know who are you) realize this! Not everybody has a support system to watch their kids while they go to work! We need schools to OPEN in September.


You would need to telework three days a week at most. But I hear there are plenty of places opening in full capacity in Florida for next school year.


Also, this isn’t right. First, three days “at most”?! That’s more than half the week. But also, it could be for 2 weeks at a clip! Or every other day in some way that’s sure to be exceptionally confusing if any closures happen. Of course the two weeks on/two weeks off is even more likely to go completely screwy if there’s a closure. I need full time school. Let people opt out. The most at risk teachers can head up DL for those who opt out.



I also have reason to believe the amount of people who are demanding full time in school is lower than what you are thinking. Just because this place is an echo chamber of the same people posting, you are under a false impression. They will release the survey results and a lot of people on this board are going to be surprised.


The survey didn’t ask if you wanted full time school. It wasn’t even an option. They arent seeking real input because they don’t want to hear that the majority of parents want full time school. Given that they didn’t ask, I don’t know how you think that any results they publish will prove people don’t want full time school?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm here for a regular school year. This isn't sustainable for working parents with no support systems around. It will crush our economy.


THIS. I cannot telework indefinitely! I hope the DC Mayor of Education and staff (ahem you know who are you) realize this! Not everybody has a support system to watch their kids while they go to work! We need schools to OPEN in September.


You would need to telework three days a week at most. But I hear there are plenty of places opening in full capacity in Florida for next school year.


Also, this isn’t right. First, three days “at most”?! That’s more than half the week. But also, it could be for 2 weeks at a clip! Or every other day in some way that’s sure to be exceptionally confusing if any closures happen. Of course the two weeks on/two weeks off is even more likely to go completely screwy if there’s a closure. I need full time school. Let people opt out. The most at risk teachers can head up DL for those who opt out.



I also have reason to believe the amount of people who are demanding full time in school is lower than what you are thinking. Just because this place is an echo chamber of the same people posting, you are under a false impression. They will release the survey results and a lot of people on this board are going to be surprised.


The survey didn’t ask if you wanted full time school. It wasn’t even an option. They arent seeking real input because they don’t want to hear that the majority of parents want full time school. Given that they didn’t ask, I don’t know how you think that any results they publish will prove people don’t want full time school?



Well you could have checked other and filled in full time school. It’s not that hard to do.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm here for a regular school year. This isn't sustainable for working parents with no support systems around. It will crush our economy.


THIS. I cannot telework indefinitely! I hope the DC Mayor of Education and staff (ahem you know who are you) realize this! Not everybody has a support system to watch their kids while they go to work! We need schools to OPEN in September.


You would need to telework three days a week at most. But I hear there are plenty of places opening in full capacity in Florida for next school year.


Also, this isn’t right. First, three days “at most”?! That’s more than half the week. But also, it could be for 2 weeks at a clip! Or every other day in some way that’s sure to be exceptionally confusing if any closures happen. Of course the two weeks on/two weeks off is even more likely to go completely screwy if there’s a closure. I need full time school. Let people opt out. The most at risk teachers can head up DL for those who opt out.



I also have reason to believe the amount of people who are demanding full time in school is lower than what you are thinking. Just because this place is an echo chamber of the same people posting, you are under a false impression. They will release the survey results and a lot of people on this board are going to be surprised.


The survey didn’t ask if you wanted full time school. It wasn’t even an option. They arent seeking real input because they don’t want to hear that the majority of parents want full time school. Given that they didn’t ask, I don’t know how you think that any results they publish will prove people don’t want full time school?



Well you could have checked other and filled in full time school. It’s not that hard to do.


Surely you’re not that dense. You think if you give options A, B, C and other, the percentage of people who click other and fill it in would be equivalent to the number of people who would have picked it if it were option D? If so, I can only assume you’ve never studied politics science or statistics and have no common sense. But sure.
Anonymous
Ha ha. I bet you also think it was a random oversight that they didn’t give full time school as an option. They totally wanted to get real feedback on that option, they just forgot...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ha ha. I bet you also think it was a random oversight that they didn’t give full time school as an option. They totally wanted to get real feedback on that option, they just forgot...



No it’s not a random oversight. But I don’t know how to make clear to you that DCPS HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR SCHOOL IS GOING TO BE A HYBRID FOR 2020-2021. They have said it over and over. They showed you on the survey. So at this point you are being dense for refusing to acknowledge what is right in front of your eyes and plan accordingly.
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