This is the time to move back to school year age groups

[Anonymous]

How about a market-based solution? US youth soccer is so fragmented it could support two competing federations, one that uses birth year and one that uses school year. The birth year one would focus on preparing players for USMNT and playing abroad, while the school year one would focus on college. Players could move from one federation to the other simply by switching clubs.

My prediction would be the school-year based federation would dominate and suck up all the talent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the only people who don't understand how school year would be better are either Jan-Mar parents or have rec-level players who aren't looking at college play.

How would breaking up every single existing youth soccer team make things better? Why can't you understand how disruptive and negative that would be?

How do you you think changing the birth date cutoff would poll among current youth soccer players?

I know exactly how disruptive it was. I lived through it. I also see how the new system doesn't work well, and we should fix it.

Everyone else prefers to avoid the disruption again, you just have to live with a imperfect system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How about a market-based solution? US youth soccer is so fragmented it could support two competing federations, one that uses birth year and one that uses school year. The birth year one would focus on preparing players for USMNT and playing abroad, while the school year one would focus on college. Players could move from one federation to the other simply by switching clubs.

My prediction would be the school-year based federation would dominate and suck up all the talent.

Oh just stop already.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the only people who don't understand how school year would be better are either Jan-Mar parents or have rec-level players who aren't looking at college play.

How would breaking up every single existing youth soccer team make things better? Why can't you understand how disruptive and negative that would be?

How do you you think changing the birth date cutoff would poll among current youth soccer players?

I know exactly how disruptive it was. I lived through it. I also see how the new system doesn't work well, and we should fix it.

Everyone else prefers to avoid the disruption again, you just have to live with a imperfect system.

You don't speak for everyone. There are many folks (and most importantly a lot of coaches) who would prefer we switch back.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the only people who don't understand how school year would be better are either Jan-Mar parents or have rec-level players who aren't looking at college play.

How would breaking up every single existing youth soccer team make things better? Why can't you understand how disruptive and negative that would be?

How do you you think changing the birth date cutoff would poll among current youth soccer players?

I know exactly how disruptive it was. I lived through it. I also see how the new system doesn't work well, and we should fix it.

Everyone else prefers to avoid the disruption again, you just have to live with a imperfect system.

You don't speak for everyone. There are many folks (and most importantly a lot of coaches) who would prefer we switch back.

And you don’t speak for everyone either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the only people who don't understand how school year would be better are either Jan-Mar parents or have rec-level players who aren't looking at college play.

How would breaking up every single existing youth soccer team make things better? Why can't you understand how disruptive and negative that would be?

How do you you think changing the birth date cutoff would poll among current youth soccer players?

I know exactly how disruptive it was. I lived through it. I also see how the new system doesn't work well, and we should fix it.

Everyone else prefers to avoid the disruption again, you just have to live with a imperfect system.

You don't speak for everyone. There are many folks (and most importantly a lot of coaches) who would prefer we switch back.

And you don’t speak for everyone either.

On the other hand I do speak for everyone, as I have been appointed by God himself. I will let you know what I decide later.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the only people who don't understand how school year would be better are either Jan-Mar parents or have rec-level players who aren't looking at college play.

How would breaking up every single existing youth soccer team make things better? Why can't you understand how disruptive and negative that would be?

How do you you think changing the birth date cutoff would poll among current youth soccer players?

I know exactly how disruptive it was. I lived through it. I also see how the new system doesn't work well, and we should fix it.

Everyone else prefers to avoid the disruption again, you just have to live with a imperfect system.

You don't speak for everyone. There are many folks (and most importantly a lot of coaches) who would prefer we switch back.

What coaches would prefer school year? They don't care for their players to play with their buddies. They want kids who are there to get better. On both of my kids teams once they entered travel, they never had more than 1 or 2 kids that went to the same school. The school year cut-off we had before wasn't even true school year as I think schools in VA go through Oct 1st. Other states have different dates What was the old cut-off? August 1st? Why would a coach want to worry about a middle of the year cut off or what grade they are in. Birth year is less complicated. Regardless of what is used you are always going to have some kid who is 11 months than another player.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the only people who don't understand how school year would be better are either Jan-Mar parents or have rec-level players who aren't looking at college play.

How would breaking up every single existing youth soccer team make things better? Why can't you understand how disruptive and negative that would be?

How do you you think changing the birth date cutoff would poll among current youth soccer players?

I know exactly how disruptive it was. I lived through it. I also see how the new system doesn't work well, and we should fix it.

Everyone else prefers to avoid the disruption again, you just have to live with a imperfect system.

You don't speak for everyone. There are many folks (and most importantly a lot of coaches) who would prefer we switch back.

What coaches would prefer school year? They don't care for their players to play with their buddies. They want kids who are there to get better. On both of my kids teams once they entered travel, they never had more than 1 or 2 kids that went to the same school. The school year cut-off we had before wasn't even true school year as I think schools in VA go through Oct 1st. Other states have different dates What was the old cut-off? August 1st? Why would a coach want to worry about a middle of the year cut off or what grade they are in. Birth year is less complicated. Regardless of what is used you are always going to have some kid who is 11 months than another player.

Piffle. Pshaw. I am appointed by God to decide this matter for you. You have no say. I will publish my edict later.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the only people who don't understand how school year would be better are either Jan-Mar parents or have rec-level players who aren't looking at college play.

How would breaking up every single existing youth soccer team make things better? Why can't you understand how disruptive and negative that would be?

How do you you think changing the birth date cutoff would poll among current youth soccer players?

I know exactly how disruptive it was. I lived through it. I also see how the new system doesn't work well, and we should fix it.

Everyone else prefers to avoid the disruption again, you just have to live with a imperfect system.

You don't speak for everyone. There are many folks (and most importantly a lot of coaches) who would prefer we switch back.

What coaches would prefer school year? They don't care for their players to play with their buddies. They want kids who are there to get better. On both of my kids teams once they entered travel, they never had more than 1 or 2 kids that went to the same school. The school year cut-off we had before wasn't even true school year as I think schools in VA go through Oct 1st. Other states have different dates What was the old cut-off? August 1st? Why would a coach want to worry about a middle of the year cut off or what grade they are in. Birth year is less complicated. Regardless of what is used you are always going to have some kid who is 11 months than another player.

Its for scouting HS graduation classes at showcases. They scout class of 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025, 2026 years in advance.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the only people who don't understand how school year would be better are either Jan-Mar parents or have rec-level players who aren't looking at college play.

How would breaking up every single existing youth soccer team make things better? Why can't you understand how disruptive and negative that would be?

How do you you think changing the birth date cutoff would poll among current youth soccer players?

I know exactly how disruptive it was. I lived through it. I also see how the new system doesn't work well, and we should fix it.

Everyone else prefers to avoid the disruption again, you just have to live with a imperfect system.

You don't speak for everyone. There are many folks (and most importantly a lot of coaches) who would prefer we switch back.

What coaches would prefer school year? They don't care for their players to play with their buddies. They want kids who are there to get better. On both of my kids teams once they entered travel, they never had more than 1 or 2 kids that went to the same school. The school year cut-off we had before wasn't even true school year as I think schools in VA go through Oct 1st. Other states have different dates What was the old cut-off? August 1st? Why would a coach want to worry about a middle of the year cut off or what grade they are in. Birth year is less complicated. Regardless of what is used you are always going to have some kid who is 11 months than another player.

Its for scouting HS graduation classes at showcases. They scout class of 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025, 2026 years in advance.

Players reach out to college coaches. When they do, they inform the coaches, among many things like their jersey number they also tell them their graduation year.

This really is t the problem that you think it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the only people who don't understand how school year would be better are either Jan-Mar parents or have rec-level players who aren't looking at college play.

How would breaking up every single existing youth soccer team make things better? Why can't you understand how disruptive and negative that would be?

How do you you think changing the birth date cutoff would poll among current youth soccer players?

I know exactly how disruptive it was. I lived through it. I also see how the new system doesn't work well, and we should fix it.

Everyone else prefers to avoid the disruption again, you just have to live with a imperfect system.

You don't speak for everyone. There are many folks (and most importantly a lot of coaches) who would prefer we switch back.

What coaches would prefer school year? They don't care for their players to play with their buddies. They want kids who are there to get better. On both of my kids teams once they entered travel, they never had more than 1 or 2 kids that went to the same school. The school year cut-off we had before wasn't even true school year as I think schools in VA go through Oct 1st. Other states have different dates What was the old cut-off? August 1st? Why would a coach want to worry about a middle of the year cut off or what grade they are in. Birth year is less complicated. Regardless of what is used you are always going to have some kid who is 11 months than another player.

College coaches and competitive travel coaches of kids who are 8th grade and above. They don't like the dead zones that about 1/3rd of the trapped kids get caught in.

Rec coaches don't care, true. And as for "less complicated," having to deal with trapped players is a lot more complicated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the only people who don't understand how school year would be better are either Jan-Mar parents or have rec-level players who aren't looking at college play.

How would breaking up every single existing youth soccer team make things better? Why can't you understand how disruptive and negative that would be?

How do you you think changing the birth date cutoff would poll among current youth soccer players?

I know exactly how disruptive it was. I lived through it. I also see how the new system doesn't work well, and we should fix it.

Everyone else prefers to avoid the disruption again, you just have to live with a imperfect system.

You don't speak for everyone. There are many folks (and most importantly a lot of coaches) who would prefer we switch back.

And you don’t speak for everyone either.

I wasn't the one saying "everyone else" prefers to do something, like you did. I didn't claim to speak for everyone, but you did.

[Anonymous]

What a waste of 100 answers on this thread....none of you will make a difference!

Do yo really think your stupid comments and analysis in soccer will change things? Fools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What a waste of 100 answers on this thread....none of you will make a difference!

Do yo really think your stupid comments and analysis in soccer will change things? Fools.

That is true of all of DCUM and yet here you are.

[Anonymous]

It is entertaining to watch the panicked Jan-Mar parents post.